[PRengine]

The arguments that racists use often contradict each other or would not work the other way round.

1. Racism is dead – Racism is natural and common to all societies.

2. I do not see colour – my best friend is black.

3. Black History Month is racist – teaching white history the rest of the year is not.

4. Whites owned slaves ? They were not cruel and immoral, it was the times! – Whites freed slaves ? See how kind-hearted and moral they are!

5. White scientists measure bones for over a hundred years to try to prove that blacks are closer to apes – Whites have Neanderthal genes but blacks do not? Crickets.

6. That Africans got their civilization from whites and use white inventions shows that whites have more intelligence – that whites got their civilization from Africa and used African inventions proves nothing.

7. High average scores on IQ tests prove whites have more intelligence – whites should be judged as individuals, making general statements about them is racist.

8. High rates of street crime prove that blacks have criminal tendencies – whites should be judged as individuals, making general statements about them is racist.

9. Whites commit most of the crime – blacks are the ones who bring crime into white communities.

10. We know blacks are naturally violent because of street crimes – multiple continental genocides prove nothing about the violent nature of whites. That would be racist!

11. Whites have a rational fear of blacks because of their high murder rate – whites murder whites at a rate six times higher than blacks yet are feared way less.

12. Saying bad things about whites shows that you hate them, that you just want to make them look bad – saying bad things about blacks is merely stating the truth, something that the people on this blog need to wake up to.

13. High rates of out-of-wedlock birth among blacks prove they suffer from social pathologies – High rates of out-of-wedlock birth among whites prove nothing, even when they pass the levels seen as pathological among blacks.

14. Whites got to where they are through hard work – that blacks were slaves for hundreds of years magically does not affect where they are.

15. Pointing out racism is playing the race card – pointing out reverse racism is righteous indignation.

16. White American IQ tests written in English prove that Africans have low intelligence – Tanzanian IQ tests written in Swahili would prove nothing about the intelligence of White Americans.

17. Disrespecting someone because of their race is racist – calling blacks the n-word should be allowed.

18. I got beat up by blacks at high school – police brutality against blacks is no big deal.

19. People should not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character – police profiling is not racist.

20. I’m not racist but ….

The fallacy behind most of these is that whites can be judged in a different way than blacks – yet the people who make these sort of arguments do not think they are being racist.

[Pipindula]

I will say two things.

Firstly, unlike progressists used to believe, Blacks are not a magic race uncapable of thinking in racism. It's obvious, just take a look at steady genocides in Africa. One example between one thousand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide

Secondly, Europeans (Portugueses, Spanish, British...) took advantage of the wars between black tribes to get slaves. The winner Blacks sold their prisoners to Whites in exchange for other things. Let's stop thinking the progressims which says we Whites are the bad ones of the history and the Blacks the victims of a evil race like us. Things are more complex.

[TeemFilla]

From what I have seen, racism on this board mostly happens when one of the black posters makes a thread about racism.

By the way the use of rationality to prove opinion wrong is doomed to failure. Opinions can't be right or wrong.

[haudraufwienix]

racism on this site mostly happens because it is a race centric site which attracts racist people who then go on trolling eachother about this or that. my race is smarter, stronger, more civilized than yours etc. your race is the reason this or that is wrong with the world etc.

people need to stfu about it already. an actual sincere and educated discussion on race and race relations will never happen here if people continue to let their emotions and their trolling nature to get in the way or logical thinking.

[TeemFilla]

I will say two things.

Firstly, unlike progressists used to believe, Blacks are not a magic race uncapable of thinking in racism. It's obvious, just take a look at steady genocides in Africa. One example between one thousand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide
.

What a straw man argument! No one ist denying your point. Racists come in all shades: black, white, yellow, green etc.

The main problem is that you are constantly trying to evade the issues which Black Guy Uk mentioned. He is indeed right with his assumption.

[qd0vhq4f]

The OP is very interesting. Regarding the IQ of the different races, I think that IQ tests are strongly biased. For example, Bushmen have an average IQ of 54, whereas persons afflicted by Down Syndrome have an average IQ of 50. However, a person with Down Syndrome needs the supervision of an adult to carry on with his life. While, on the other hand, Bushmen, with almost the same average IQ, can survive on their own in one of the most adverse climates in the world. Do you see how stupid and biased IQ tests are? The brain of the Bushmen is adapted to their environment, not to the complex verbal and mathematical activities required to function in Western civilizations.

[Smeaphvalialm]

I will say two things.

Firstly, unlike progressists used to believe, Blacks are not a magic race uncapable of thinking in racism. It's obvious, just take a look at steady genocides in Africa. One example between one thousand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide

Secondly, Europeans (Portugueses, Spanish, British...) took advantage of the wars between black tribes to get slaves. The winner Blacks sold their prisoners to Whites in exchange for other things. Let's stop thinking the progressims which says we Whites are the bad ones of the history and the Blacks the victims of a evil race like us. Things are more complex.

The amount of (White) people dead in the two World Wars is probably almost 100 bigger than those genocides. But yes I agree with you when say people don't think Blacks can't be racist.

---------- Post added 2012-07-13 at 18:24 ----------

The arguments that racists use often contradict each other or would not work the other way round.

1. Racism is dead – Racism is natural and common to all societies.

2. I do not see colour – my best friend is black.

3. Black History Month is racist – teaching white history the rest of the year is not.

4. Whites owned slaves ? They were not cruel and immoral, it was the times! – Whites freed slaves ? See how kind-hearted and moral they are!

5. White scientists measure bones for over a hundred years to try to prove that blacks are closer to apes – Whites have Neanderthal genes but blacks do not? Crickets.

6. That Africans got their civilization from whites and use white inventions shows that whites have more intelligence – that whites got their civilization from Africa and used African inventions proves nothing.

7. High average scores on IQ tests prove whites have more intelligence – whites should be judged as individuals, making general statements about them is racist.

8. High rates of street crime prove that blacks have criminal tendencies – whites should be judged as individuals, making general statements about them is racist.

9. Whites commit most of the crime – blacks are the ones who bring crime into white communities.

10. We know blacks are naturally violent because of street crimes – multiple continental genocides prove nothing about the violent nature of whites. That would be racist!

11. Whites have a rational fear of blacks because of their high murder rate – whites murder whites at a rate six times higher than blacks yet are feared way less.

12. Saying bad things about whites shows that you hate them, that you just want to make them look bad – saying bad things about blacks is merely stating the truth, something that the people on this blog need to wake up to.

13. High rates of out-of-wedlock birth among blacks prove they suffer from social pathologies – High rates of out-of-wedlock birth among whites prove nothing, even when they pass the levels seen as pathological among blacks.

14. Whites got to where they are through hard work – that blacks were slaves for hundreds of years magically does not affect where they are.

15. Pointing out racism is playing the race card – pointing out reverse racism is righteous indignation.

16. White American IQ tests written in English prove that Africans have low intelligence – Tanzanian IQ tests written in Swahili would prove nothing about the intelligence of White Americans.

17. Disrespecting someone because of their race is racist – calling blacks the n-word should be allowed.

18. I got beat up by blacks at high school – police brutality against blacks is no big deal.

19. People should not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character – police profiling is not racist.

20. I’m not racist but ….

The fallacy behind most of these is that whites can be judged in a different way than blacks – yet the people who make these sort of arguments do not think they are being racist.

You're actually right in many of these points, and it's funny it always comes from "I'm not Politically Correct" fellas.

[Stoniaanapy]

From what I have seen, racism on this board mostly happens when one of the black posters makes a thread about racism.

You definitely suffer from number 15.....
15. Pointing out racism is playing the race card – pointing out reverse racism is righteous indignation.

[DoctoNilsonDen]

You definitely suffer from number 15.....
15. Pointing out racism is playing the race card – pointing out reverse racism is righteous indignation.

Nope.
I believe anyone can be prejudiced if they want to be, based on race, religion or anything else.
Having said that, I am not a racist myself.

[Beerinkol]

"We" are always better than "them", for whatever "we" you can think of.

[PebydataFeents]

I really enjoy the oft-used adjective, so-called. Such an easy way to apply irreverence to any particular statement. For example, I support the rights of so-called people to exercise their freedom of so-called speech. See what I did there? Now please continue with the so-called discussion.

[FreeOEMcheapestPHOTOSHOP]

I really enjoy the oft-used adjective, so-called. Such an easy way to apply irreverence to any particular statement. For example, I support the rights of so-called people to exercise their freedom of so-called speech. See what I did there? Now please continue with the so-called discussion.

My favourite is 'technically', which can be used to justify anything and even conveys the speaker with a certain intelligence, as it suggests he or she knows something that we don't.

"Technically, Hitler saved the human race a lot of trouble."

"Technically, Mickey Mouse was the first black porn star."

"White is black, technically speaking."

If anyone questions this, you simply reply: "I wouldn't want to bore you with the details, but you know as well as I do that the so-called 'facts' people think they know aren't always true."

[auctionlover]

lol what crock of shit.

[infelconi]

Damn, screwed the edit up and lost my comments. Lol.

[disappointment2]

Some people apply different rules to different groups. It is because they just do not like you or your group.

[Lhtfajba]

I will say two things.

Firstly, unlike progressists used to believe, Blacks are not a magic race uncapable of thinking in racism. It's obvious, just take a look at steady genocides in Africa. One example between one thousand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide

Secondly, Europeans (Portugueses, Spanish, British...) took advantage of the wars between black tribes to get slaves. The winner Blacks sold their prisoners to Whites in exchange for other things. Let's stop thinking the progressims which says we Whites are the bad ones of the history and the Blacks the victims of a evil race like us. Things are more complex.

Whites initial purpose was venture out and bring back wealth to their homeland. How much could you possibly accumulate? Giving nothing back. Its a corrupt system, which its much broader than slavery, period. Its sinister to humankind. It exploit others, it repress human freedoms: it greed, dear. You do what you need to do to get it and you can't sugarcoat that shit over. Bad for blacks and Native Americans. They did it in the Roman Ancient Egyptian times, no different from in US, 3-4 centuries ago.

[TSVIDeo]

The arguments that racists use often contradict each other or would not work the other way round.

1. Racism is dead – Racism is natural and common to all societies.

2. I do not see colour – my best friend is black.

3. Black History Month is racist – teaching white history the rest of the year is not.

4. Whites owned slaves ? They were not cruel and immoral, it was the times! – Whites freed slaves ? See how kind-hearted and moral they are!

5. White scientists measure bones for over a hundred years to try to prove that blacks are closer to apes – Whites have Neanderthal genes but blacks do not? Crickets.

6. That Africans got their civilization from whites and use white inventions shows that whites have more intelligence – that whites got their civilization from Africa and used African inventions proves nothing.

7. High average scores on IQ tests prove whites have more intelligence – whites should be judged as individuals, making general statements about them is racist.

8. High rates of street crime prove that blacks have criminal tendencies – whites should be judged as individuals, making general statements about them is racist.

9. Whites commit most of the crime – blacks are the ones who bring crime into white communities.

10. We know blacks are naturally violent because of street crimes – multiple continental genocides prove nothing about the violent nature of whites. That would be racist!

11. Whites have a rational fear of blacks because of their high murder rate – whites murder whites at a rate six times higher than blacks yet are feared way less.

12. Saying bad things about whites shows that you hate them, that you just want to make them look bad – saying bad things about blacks is merely stating the truth, something that the people on this blog need to wake up to.

13. High rates of out-of-wedlock birth among blacks prove they suffer from social pathologies – High rates of out-of-wedlock birth among whites prove nothing, even when they pass the levels seen as pathological among blacks.

14. Whites got to where they are through hard work – that blacks were slaves for hundreds of years magically does not affect where they are.

15. Pointing out racism is playing the race card – pointing out reverse racism is righteous indignation.

16. White American IQ tests written in English prove that Africans have low intelligence – Tanzanian IQ tests written in Swahili would prove nothing about the intelligence of White Americans.

17. Disrespecting someone because of their race is racist – calling blacks the n-word should be allowed.

18. I got beat up by blacks at high school – police brutality against blacks is no big deal.

19. People should not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character – police profiling is not racist.

20. I’m not racist but ….

The fallacy behind most of these is that whites can be judged in a different way than blacks – yet the people who make these sort of arguments do not think they are being racist.

I am in 100% agreement with you.

[intifatry]

The OP is very interesting. Regarding the IQ of the different races, I think that IQ tests are strongly biased. For example, Bushmen have an average IQ of 54, whereas persons afflicted by Down Syndrome have an average IQ of 50. However, a person with Down Syndrome needs the supervision of an adult to carry on with his life. While, on the other hand, Bushmen, with almost the same average IQ, can survive on their own in one of the most adverse climates in the world. Do you see how stupid and biased IQ tests are? The brain of the Bushmen is adapted to their environment, not to the complex verbal and mathematical activities required to function in Western civilizations.

It has everything to do with culture. Some people don't need academics to sustain the way they lived. Its totally fine if people are comfortable in how they live, which many First World countries seem to have a problem with.

With blacks having low IQs, well that's not all true, because some blacks score higher than some whites. Its determined by economical situation. Poorer individuals are less likely average-to-above-average scores. I wonder what biased Whites and Asians would say about whites in rural, 'back-of-the-woods', areas? What are there scores?

[qp0yfHOf]

Whites initial purpose was venture out and bring back wealth to their homeland. How much could you possibly accumulate? Giving nothing back. Its a corrupt system, which its much broader than slavery, period. Its sinister to humankind. It exploit others, it repress human freedoms: it greed, dear. You do what you need to do to get it and you can't sugarcoat that shit over. Bad for blacks and Native Americans. They did it in the Roman Ancient Egyptian times, no different from in US, 3-4 centuries ago.

Lawl.

I thought the ancient Egyptians were all black?

[TodeImmabbedo]

The arguments that racists use often contradict each other or would not work the other way round.

1. Racism is dead – Racism is natural and common to all societies.

2. I do not see colour – my best friend is black.

3. Black History Month is racist – teaching white history the rest of the year is not.

4. Whites owned slaves ? They were not cruel and immoral, it was the times! – Whites freed slaves ? See how kind-hearted and moral they are!

5. White scientists measure bones for over a hundred years to try to prove that blacks are closer to apes – Whites have Neanderthal genes but blacks do not? Crickets.

6. That Africans got their civilization from whites and use white inventions shows that whites have more intelligence – that whites got their civilization from Africa and used African inventions proves nothing.

7. High average scores on IQ tests prove whites have more intelligence – whites should be judged as individuals, making general statements about them is racist.

8. High rates of street crime prove that blacks have criminal tendencies – whites should be judged as individuals, making general statements about them is racist.

9. Whites commit most of the crime – blacks are the ones who bring crime into white communities.

10. We know blacks are naturally violent because of street crimes – multiple continental genocides prove nothing about the violent nature of whites. That would be racist!

11. Whites have a rational fear of blacks because of their high murder rate – whites murder whites at a rate six times higher than blacks yet are feared way less.

12. Saying bad things about whites shows that you hate them, that you just want to make them look bad – saying bad things about blacks is merely stating the truth, something that the people on this blog need to wake up to.

13. High rates of out-of-wedlock birth among blacks prove they suffer from social pathologies – High rates of out-of-wedlock birth among whites prove nothing, even when they pass the levels seen as pathological among blacks.

14. Whites got to where they are through hard work – that blacks were slaves for hundreds of years magically does not affect where they are.

15. Pointing out racism is playing the race card – pointing out reverse racism is righteous indignation.

16. White American IQ tests written in English prove that Africans have low intelligence – Tanzanian IQ tests written in Swahili would prove nothing about the intelligence of White Americans.

17. Disrespecting someone because of their race is racist – calling blacks the n-word should be allowed.

18. I got beat up by blacks at high school – police brutality against blacks is no big deal.

19. People should not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character – police profiling is not racist.

20. I’m not racist but ….

The fallacy behind most of these is that whites can be judged in a different way than blacks – yet the people who make these sort of arguments do not think they are being racist.

1. Racism is still around despite efforts in education - Racism is learned

2. I am proud of my genetic roots - race doesn't exist

3. A month devoted to black history is not racist - History classes have too much about white people.

4. Blacks used to be slaves! - It doesn't matter that whites were slaves because that was so long ago.

5. There is only one race, all humans, regardless of tiny differences in genetics, can have offspring together! - having neanderthal ancestry makes you more of an ape.

6. Eurocentrism is biased - I'm an afrocentrist

7 & 16. IQ tests are heavily biased towards culture - American blacks would outperform American whites if it came from another country and in a foreign language.

8. Listing statistics by race is generalizing - Black people /have larger penises/are better dancers/ dominate sports/

9. Blacks commit more crimes per capita because.... - white flight is ignorant racism.

10a. Focusing of black on white violence is racism - Stop black on black crime!

10b. Whites have committed many atrocities - Profiling is racist.

11. In the majority of murders, the victim and assailant are within the same race - Hate crime laws are appropriate because...

12. Saying that blacks need to better themselves is racist - Pointing out white's inherent racism is enlightenment.

13. The high number of famous white serial killers shows the inclination of depravity of whites - Profiling is racist.

14. Poor blacks are held back by their circumstances - poor whites are racist/bigots/trailer trash and failures.

15. Pointing out institutional racism is enlightenment - Black institutions aren't racist.

17. Rap albums advocating violence against whites are artists using their free speech - Racial slurs such as "nigger" should be illegal, and any white person who uses it should be beat up, 3 to 1 or 10 to 1 it matters not.

18. This white girl at my school assumed I listen to Little Wayne - Making fun of white's for listening to country is acceptable.

19. People shouldn't profile someone by their sense of fashion or mannerisms - Trayvon Martin was hunted down and shot by a white man!

20. *Sets out to heroically prove the wrongheadedness of racists* - *Creates a strawman to knockdown*