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Old 07-12-2012, 05:53 PM   #21
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Well, I think 'Negro' should never have been considered a pejorative term. When I'm using it it's certainly never in that negative, belittling sense the dictionaries attribute it to.
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:52 AM   #22
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I agree. To me, an african-american would be a child born in america from 2 nigerian parents. Because she, would be familiar with both African AND American culture. I bet most American blacks couldn't name a CITY in Africa.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:45 AM   #23
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I agree. To me, an african-american would be a child born in america from 2 nigerian parents. Because she, would be familiar with both African AND American culture. I bet most American blacks couldn't name a CITY in Africa.
Most "blacks" are some shade of brown some Asians are darker than most "blacks" but are still called Asians. It's about where you come from like how lots of Asians have never been to Asia.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:01 AM   #24
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That is a "lighskinned"Afram woman, right?
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:14 AM   #25
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Yes politically active in the Afram community no less, "Black" only works when contrasted against White.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:33 AM   #26
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Yes politically active in the Afram community no less, "Black" only works when contrasted against White.
Then I wouldn't use her as an example of comparing Afrma darkness with Asians as there are darker Aframs.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:41 AM   #27
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I would love for the Hebrew Israelite types to comment on this, they're a bunch of 'black' people who believe they descended from Israel and had nothing to do with Africa's Blacks.
They believe majority of African Americans are also really Israelites!
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:48 AM   #28
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Then I wouldn't use her as an example of comparing Afrma darkness with Asians as there are darker Aframs.
True, point is black is soci-political identity since she is black and he is not black. Some Asians are darker than the Average Afram but don't identify as Black.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:59 AM   #29
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It amazes me how non-"Black" identified people on this forum can tell "Us" how "We" should self-identify but then get their panties in a bunch if and when "We" even suggest or hint what others should self-identify as, particularly "Latinos" of seemingly primarily African descent.

You can't make this shit up. SMMFH

On topic...

No matter what "We" choose to call ourselves, people will always remind of "Us" of who our ancestors were and how "We" came to be and essentially why "We" should do this or that. It is what it is. That's why I've always preferred "Black" when it comes to socio-political identification because in my mind, as well as history, it links me to the entire Diaspora, regardless of culture/nationhood. One Blood!

On a Side Note and things that make you go Hmmmmm...

It seems most if not all Europeans and/or "pale" foreigners don't have a problem coming to the States and adopting a "White" socio-political identity. OTOH, it also seems most "Africans" and/or other highly melanated peoples (AKA, "dark" people) come here and immediately get offended if seen as "Black"/"African"-American (with exception to folks from the Caribbean). Many/Most of them outright reject being seen as one of "Us" (even some of the Caribbean "Blacks"), which I don't see with other non-"Afro" descended groups.

We gotta get Our shit together, Diasporans! Straight up. I'm just sayin'... We can get our own Triangle Trade going and really do some things IMO.

Just ranting...
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:42 AM   #30
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I've watched in the news about how Morgan Freeman says that President Obama isn't the first black American president...and he's actually the first mixed-race president. Even though Obama is mixed-race since he is half-white, he identifies with being black...so shouldn't he be called black? And are only pure non-mixed race Africans be called black?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1112351
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:09 AM   #31
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Personally I consider Obama more white American and Southeast Asian than "black" culturally. He just happens to have an African father, who he wasn't raised by. If you look at where he was raised and by whom, who he lived among etc. he isn't part of black American culture. He definitely sells himself as black and adopted black culture as an adult by marriage, but it isn't how he was raised.
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Old 07-13-2012, 11:01 AM   #32
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I've watched in the news about how Morgan Freeman says that President Obama isn't the first black American president...and he's actually the first mixed-race president. Even though Obama is mixed-race since he is half-white, he identifies with being black...so shouldn't he be called black? And are only pure non-mixed race Africans be called black?
Morgan Freeman's just your typical overadvertised negro ninny trying to sound profound. Only an idiot could care what he thinks about anything besides acting or movies. Obama's obviously black, period.
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Old 07-13-2012, 11:13 AM   #33
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Obama's obviously black, period.
I think it's obvious you're wrong. Obama is multi-ethnic. He father is from Kenya and his mother has Irish ancestry. He grew up with whites and SE Asians and married a black women.

In a 2006 interview, Obama highlighted the diversity of his extended family: "It's like a little mini-United Nations", he said. "I've got relatives who look like Bernie Mac, and I've got relatives who look like Margaret Thatcher."
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:44 PM   #34
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I think it's obvious you're wrong. Obama is multi-ethnic. He father is from Kenya and his mother has Irish ancestry. He grew up with whites and SE Asians and married a black women.

In a 2006 interview, Obama highlighted the diversity of his extended family: "It's like a little mini-United Nations", he said. "I've got relatives who look like Bernie Mac, and I've got relatives who look like Margaret Thatcher."
Ultimately, he identified as "black" on the 2010 census.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/us.../03census.html
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:04 AM   #35
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You need to blame Jesse Jackson who promoted the use of African American instead of Black, Negro, Colored or any of the other terms previously used. So what do you want to be called identifing all the Americans with predominately African roots?
It's up to Aframs to eventually decide on the proper name they wanted to be referred to as.

I agree that as far as Africa we are not Africans, African.American in its pure sense should refer to recently arrived Africans.
Or we can just stop using the term "African-American" as "Africans" are not a monolithic group


I agree. To me, an african-american would be a child born in america from 2 nigerian parents. Because she, would be familiar with both African AND American culture. I bet most American blacks couldn't name a CITY in Africa.
No, that person would be a Nigerian-American.

There is no "African" culture.
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Old 07-14-2012, 09:09 AM   #36
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To me, being of so called "mixed race" (mex-am & euro-am), am proud of all of it. I have never been to Europe, went a very short distance into Mexico maybe two, three times. I look all white, many do not know until they hear my Hispanic surname. My point is, many "Aframs" are mixed as well, euro and African descent. And many like me, are all US American having never been to either. I would tend to agree with the vid.
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Old 07-14-2012, 09:59 AM   #37
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Becuase I simply can get why people such as Nigerians and Ghaninas cna't call themselves African Americasn if they were born in the US, as they also come from the African continent.

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This is a better term
Because they are Nigerian and Ghanian Americans first foremost.
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Old 07-14-2012, 10:01 AM   #38
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Because they are Nigerian and Ghanian Americans first foremost.
But aren't Nigeria and Ghana in Africa, so why it is the term not African American not suitalbe for them?
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Old 07-14-2012, 10:03 AM   #39
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If all Aframs came from the wolof. How much do you want to bet they would now be referred to as Wolof American. Since they cannt pinpoint all the places in West Africa they come from it's easier just to identify with the continent.
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Old 07-14-2012, 10:06 AM   #40
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African - American well this term isn't also very correct
I mean this Morrocan girl is should also be African American since she is from Africa


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Well for some people aborigines/negriots are black
most americans would probably label her as middle-easterner and it'll be totally automatical. although she could still personally choose to check african instead after all she is a northern african.
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