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Old 08-01-2012, 01:59 AM   #1
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Default Significance of Cabinet Reshuffle
Have been watching the thread and looks like people missed out the significance of the reshuffle.

1. BG Tan as speculated during the GE had even jumped over Viv B and captured the influential 1st tier Ministry of Manpower. It must have been a severe blow to Viv B and Kee Chiu. I won't be surprised if Viv B leaves eventually. Though given acting, he is fully accountable. If he was made a full minister, Kee Chiu would have looked back as well as the PAP leadership.

2. Looks like Kee Chiu has performance issue with the key component of his Ministry stripped away. He has also been given the Arts, Heritage and other masak masak duties from MICA together with sports. To lessen the impact they give MOS for Defence.

3. Lawrence Wong has done well and together with Tan is likely to lead after Ng.

4. Grace Fu has been rewarded for factionalism and inner party work. Though a full minister she like Iswaran have not been given a Ministry like Tan, Chan and Wong.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:04 AM   #2
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Have been watching the thread and looks like people missed out the significance of the reshuffle.

1. BG Tan as speculated during the GE had even jumped over Viv B and captured the influential 1st tier Ministry of Manpower. It must have been a severe blow to Viv B and Kee Chiu. I won't be surprised if Viv B leaves eventually. Though given acting, he is fully accountable. If he was made a full minister, Kee Chiu would have looked back as well as the PAP leadership.

2. Looks like Kee Chiu has performance issue with the key component of his Ministry stripped away. He has also been given the Arts, Heritage and other masak masak duties from MICA together with sports. To lessen the impact they give MOS for Defence.

3. Lawrence Wong has done well and together with Tan is likely to lead after Ng.

4. Grace Fu has been rewarded for factionalism and inner party work. Though a full minister she like Iswaran have not been given a Ministry like Tan, Chan and Wong.
TCJ worked so hard for nothing. He's by far the best of the newbies and yet he get's small fry jobs.

Kee Chiu back in MINDEF. A la Lee Hsien Loong and TCH as they were before hand. So....

Lawrence Wong is a sound byte. Tiem for him to leave MINDEF.

Grace Fu is to appeal to the women's rights people--which doesnt really work. But her instead of Tuck Yew in MFA good.
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Old 08-01-2012, 04:16 AM   #3
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No one cares because after a round of musical chairs, they will still be pursuing the same failed policies.

Have been watching the thread and looks like people missed out the significance of the reshuffle.

1. BG Tan as speculated during the GE had even jumped over Viv B and captured the influential 1st tier Ministry of Manpower. It must have been a severe blow to Viv B and Kee Chiu. I won't be surprised if Viv B leaves eventually. Though given acting, he is fully accountable. If he was made a full minister, Kee Chiu would have looked back as well as the PAP leadership.

2. Looks like Kee Chiu has performance issue with the key component of his Ministry stripped away. He has also been given the Arts, Heritage and other masak masak duties from MICA together with sports. To lessen the impact they give MOS for Defence.

3. Lawrence Wong has done well and together with Tan is likely to lead after Ng.

4. Grace Fu has been rewarded for factionalism and inner party work. Though a full minister she like Iswaran have not been given a Ministry like Tan, Chan and Wong.
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Old 08-01-2012, 06:22 AM   #4
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Somewhat offtopic, I can understand why people think the portfolios that Kee Chiu were given were masak masak but that has largely to do with our mindset that the arts, culture, social security, etc are of secondary importance. But I would like to point out that the recurrent effect of having this mindset explains the dysfunction in our society and the unbalanced nature of the PAP's policies.

If Kee Chiu treats it like masak, masak, these portfolios will continue to be viewed as masak masak. Unfortunately, given how he has come across the past few months, I highly doubt he has the capability to turn the ship even if the PM has helped him reduced the scope of his ministry.
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Old 08-01-2012, 06:53 AM   #5
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Have been watching the thread and looks like people missed out the significance of the reshuffle.
You are pretty spot on...!

1. BG Tan is a less controversial figure than Viv B or that fumbling Kee Chiu. This BG Tan has found favour with the establishment. Has done well with less visibility.

2. Kee Chiu is an unsightly figure. Too much exposure has gone to his head. Fumbles too much. Less sight and less say the better.

3. Lawrence is another dependable workhorse just like BG Tan. Get the work done with minimum fuss.

4. Grace Foo is a recognised lap dog in the making. Ever ready to jump to the master's calling. Will easily trade her dignity for more pickings. More crumbs coming her way!
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:17 AM   #6
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Have been watching the thread and looks like people missed out the significance of the reshuffle.
换汤不换药。until the citizens ain't treated as economic digits, things will remain pretty much the same
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:38 AM   #7
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anyone noticed the focus on the Internet? the new ministry of Communications .... is supposed to focus on all the negative discussions in SBF, Alex Au etc etc ....

the other new ministry will focus on culture - aka FT integration. So that means more food festivals and the like?
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:22 AM   #8
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Yes the shuffle makes sense. Viv B has been a BIG disappointment. Porn Liu is struggling but if he can clear the mess made by Raymond, then my hat off to him. Grace Fu is also struggling to clear the mess made by Mah and again if she succeeds she deserves her ministar. But the bigger performance issue concerns the PM himself. How can he allow things to slide to such a level??
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:09 PM   #9
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So we used to have

1. Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports (MCYS)
2. Ministry of Information, Communications and the Arts (MICA)

Now we'll have

1. Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF)
2. Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth (MCCY)
3. Ministry of Communications and Information (MCI)

Question is, who's in charge of Sports now?
Is it Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA)?
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:14 PM   #10
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So we used to have

1. Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports (MCYS)
2. Ministry of Information, Communications and the Arts (MICA)

Now we'll have

1. Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF)
2. Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth (MCCY)
3. Ministry of Communications and Information (MCI)

...
so, spots n arts gotten thrown out in2 rubbish dump? ...
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Old 08-01-2012, 04:56 PM   #11
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Have been watching the thread and looks like people missed out the significance of the reshuffle.
4. Grace Fu has been rewarded for factionalism and inner party work. Though a full minister.
Enough to make Josephine Teo jealous. Not that Jos was good, but acted more like Liim Swee Say stlye.
Anyway, Vivian Balakrisnan is a walking dead already. Not worth a 2nd thought. Those who ever used words that demean our citizens usually will die prematurely. Josephine - lessor stock, Charles Chong - lesser mortal, Vivian - Hawker, foodcourt or restuarant, Lim Swee Say - cheaper better faster and unsurprisingly Kee Chiu Chan C S - XO carrot cake vs cheap carrot cake. Yup, voters count and won't take such demeaning remarks with grace.\
In fact, Yacoob Ibrahim is a spent force too, but PAP need a malay dummy like him to represent minority otherwise he would have been "sacked" for his 50-year freaky experience.
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Old 08-01-2012, 04:57 PM   #12
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Can there be a protest letter to boot CCS out of Defence?
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Old 08-01-2012, 05:06 PM   #13
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You are pretty spot on...!

1. BG Tan is a less controversial figure than Viv B or that fumbling Kee Chiu. This BG Tan has found favour with the establishment. Has done well with less visibility.

2. Kee Chiu is an unsightly figure. Too much exposure has gone to his head. Fumbles too much. Less sight and less say the better.

3. Lawrence is another dependable workhorse just like BG Tan. Get the work done with minimum fuss.

4. Grace Foo is a recognised lap dog in the making. Ever ready to jump to the master's calling. Will easily trade her dignity for more pickings. More crumbs coming her way!
Regardless of what you think, any of them can easily screwed up for the next 3 to 4 years. With influx of immigrants that caused various problems across the board, given another 100 PAP scholars to come onboard would be equally retarded as a sloth.
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Old 08-01-2012, 05:07 PM   #14
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Regardless of what you think, any of them can easily screwed up for the next 3 to 4 years. With influx of immigrants that caused various problems across the board, given another 100 PAP scholars to come onboard would be equally retarded as a sloth.
They'll screw up once they open their mouths during the election period
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Old 08-01-2012, 06:11 PM   #15
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Now we'll have

1. Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF)
2. Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth (MCCY)
3. Ministry of Communications and Information (MCI)

Question is, who's in charge of Sports now?
Is it Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA)?
These were the old Ministry names:

1. Ministry of Social (Welfare) and Family Development (MSF)
2. Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth (MCCY)
3. Ministry of Communications and Information (MCI)

Keep it simple and everything works well. What's the point of having fanciful names if everything screws up?
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How true!
No one cares because after a round of musical chairs, they will still be pursuing the same failed policies.
TCJ is a workhorse, hay rewarded for him.
Kee Chiu is a clown like LSS. masak2 suits him fine.
GF they need a woman Minister. period.
Yacob - they need a Malay Minister. period.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:34 PM   #17
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All are fakers! Young and inexperienced and placed into appointments
to give more breathing space for the top guns! I would like to see these newbies
change the course set by the earlier big wigs who are still in the cabinet. Truth is, none of the
changes are significant. Just doing damage control after current Ministers are seen to be struggling .

I expect early elections to be called to bring in more " qualified " characters to appease a more informed public .

All that PAP needs to do is to listen to their heart and voice of the people. Discard the image
that it's only they who have the answers to everything.
The radical change that everyone is expecting from the PAP is not happening yet!
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All are fakers! Young and inexperienced and placed into appointments
to give more breathing space for the top guns! I would like to see these newbies
change the course set by the earlier big wigs who are still in the cabinet. Truth is, none of the
changes are significant. Just doing damage control after current Ministers are seen to be struggling .

I expect early elections to be called to bring in more " qualified " characters to appease a more informed public .

All that PAP needs to do is to listen to their heart and voice of the people. Discard the image
that it's only they who have the answers to everything.
The radical change that everyone is expecting from the PAP is not happening yet!
target their GRCs next election! Concentrate all fire power on that Super Star Destroyer
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:48 PM   #19
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Have been watching the thread and looks like people missed out the significance of the reshuffle.

1. BG Tan as speculated during the GE had even jumped over Viv B and captured the influential 1st tier Ministry of Manpower. It must have been a severe blow to Viv B and Kee Chiu. I won't be surprised if Viv B leaves eventually. Though given acting, he is fully accountable. If he was made a full minister, Kee Chiu would have looked back as well as the PAP leadership.

2. Looks like Kee Chiu has performance issue with the key component of his Ministry stripped away. He has also been given the Arts, Heritage and other masak masak duties from MICA together with sports. To lessen the impact they give MOS for Defence.

3. Lawrence Wong has done well and together with Tan is likely to lead after Ng.

4. Grace Fu has been rewarded for factionalism and inner party work. Though a full minister she like Iswaran have not been given a Ministry like Tan, Chan and Wong.
Yaacob has his empire reduced significantly to almost nothing as Communication includes 90% Information, so his new ministry is really ministry of communication........ what a simple task paying so much money.
The change also reflects lack of confidence LHL has of him............ screwed up Enviroment n Water Resources, NEA........... his US citizen children n I hope the Malay Muslim do not really like him////
In this world you will hardly find a ministry of communication!!!
However he will continue to count his millions n planning retirement in USA.......... how unfair is life/
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:52 PM   #20
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Yaacob has his empire reduced significantly to almost nothing as Communication includes 90% Information, so his new ministry is really ministry of communication........ what a simple task paying so much money.
The change also reflects lack of confidence LHL has of him............ screwed up Enviroment n Water Resources, NEA........... his US citizen children n I hope the Malay Muslim do not really like him////
In this world you will hardly find a ministry of communication!!!
However he will continue to count his millions n planning retirement in USA.......... how unfair is life/
his millions ensure his children wont serve NS
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