[LottiFurmann]

I want to place another platform like the thread for Perfect Melodies to present superb Indian film songs and unknown composers most of us may have missed. If we open our minds we can find many unconventional yet extraordinary musical approaches. The magic of Indian film songs is not really in the pallavi or the rhythm or orchestration but it is all in the way the stanzas come out. That is where the "beauty of the genius" of the composer really is. (Let me tell you now, no one like Sam Joseph or Shyam in the stanzas!!)

I like two young composers who are way ahead for their age and the current musical scene, I think. You can get a sense of the benchmark I am employing:

Joshua Sridhar - "June July" Kalloori

http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/...p?mid=T0001232

Bennett Veeratag - "Puthu Manjupol" Dr. Patient

http://devaragam.com/vbscript/MusicN...x?MovieId=2121

and, also an old Hindi song

R D Burman "Liyo Na Babu Tani" - Kahte Hein Mujko Raja


& world music,

The Shins - "Sea Legs"



Just wait, I found some amazing ones and will look for more.

[HedgeYourBets]

http://devaragam.com/vbscript/MusicN...x?ArtistID=393

Puthu Manjupol is the song by Bennett Veeratag that made me think of this topic and see if it can help us all get to know of some out of the box and visionary compositions. Check this song out and you can understand the meaning of this topic and the benchmark I am using to place compositions to your delight.

Actually the title I was going for was - "Astounding songs/composers in Indian films, and musical progress abroad" Note to Admin: Is it possible to change the topic title? Thanks.

[Fegasderty]

http://thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00297.html

Dhagame Undaanathey

Unusual, perfect perfect start not seen often a sharp one like that from IR, stanza could've been better.

[NeroASERCH]

natha,

Since you are the author, you can edit by yourself. Login, go to your Ist post click edit and change the title.

I dont understand properly do you mean to say JS - Kaloori & RDB "Liyo Na" are unknown melodies and unknown composers. I am also looking for a common thread to expand the knowledge of Global music and discuss how our Indian composers fared, CT would be a better place. Let see what others say!

[Drugmachine]

Scale, thanks a lot. I meant extraordinary/unconventional songs and also discovery of less popular/unknown/came and left the scene composers in that process.

I will give you another example - the L Vaidyanathan in Malayalam, you got to listen to this song and stanza and rhythm!

http://devaragam.com/vbscript/MusicN...x?ArtistID=438

Aakasha Medaikku in Venal kinavukal - KJY (super singing) Excellent example for superb stanza also, check out

Poru Oru Vijayanathil

[brraverishhh]

natha,
Nice listings....... Thank you......

[PhillipHer]

Puthu Manjupol is terrific! Gutsiest choice to open this topic.

The magic of Indian film songs is not really in the pallavi or the rhythm or orchestration but it is all in the way the stanzas come out. That is where the "beauty of the genius" of the composer really is. (Let me tell you now, no one like Sam Joseph or Shyam in the stanzas!!) :kicking back:

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

After listening to Pudhu Manjupol & Aaromale, brings back some haunting memories of 60's & 70's music from the giants

We may hear similar songs in Tamil very soon.

[Fegasderty]

Natha,

Apart, any extraordinary picks on recent Indian Classical, Folk music, Sufi Music like this what I look for.

Ranjit Barots Urchagam - Naram Pookal
Wake up Sid - Iktara (Kavitha Seth)
Delhi 6 - Genda Phool - Rekha Bharadwaj

[S.T.D.]

Scale, thank you so much. I am impressed you identified with Puthu Manjupol. There were many I found along with this song and I said I got to share this amazing amazing bold bold and outstanding melodies with you all. And, not to say less of June July song of Joshua Sridhar - fantastic stanza, powerful!

Found one old style, soft stanzas but appropriate

http://www.raaga.com/channels/telugu...p?mid=A0000008 Edalolaya - Anveshana Telugu (the full version, not found anywhere else, i guess)

Thanks for the Jimmy Parker, checked it out. I will check out the others.

[brraverishhh]

Natha,

You truly have a diverse taste and a great collection. Thanks for Edalolaya, I would never have heard all these gems. Outstanding, Brilliant! I liked JS both K's thats' because of BS (the director) the stanza exploration I believe is oriented more towards script and on situational pov.

Keep them coming.

[MannoFr]

Ranjit Barot's VIP is one bold, bold out of the box compositions. has thrown some brilliant, vibrating, artistic world sounds but still the feel, melody, fusion, use of ethnic instruments is youthful & mind-bending! Few years back I have heard a song in a hotel lobby a song like which Ranjit barot had sampled it, not a copy though. Does anyone know that band/song? Ist & IInd Interlude - Flute

[TorryJens]

short version

Shadajne in Tansen - Ravindra Jain


http://www.esnips.com/doc/2db1d12d-2...nreleased-Song

complete song

[Big A]

Natha1729:

Thank you for posting this amazing composition by Ravindra Jain, sung fabulously by K.J. Yesudas. I was under the impression that the original recording of "shadajnE...", like the movie TANSEN, was never released. There were a few on-line versions of KJY singing the song during his stage shows. Needless to say, the recording quality of a stage show would be very poor when compared to the original studio recording. As described by KJY, the whole process of recording the original version was very painstaking and took several days. Will you please clarify whether the version that you have posted is one of the stage show versions or the original?
Thank you.

[radikal]

Considering the accompaniments in the version that you have posted are all typical Carnatic instruments (Mridangam, Ghatam, Violin), it appears to be from a concert and not from the OST of the film. A fabulous composition indeed and only the likes of Yesudas can do justice. I look forward to hearing the original film version.

Last I heard, Rajshri are planning to commence shooting of the film, which is great. The bad news is that the director they have roped in is none other than the copy-cat Satish Kaushik (I wonder what credentials he has to make a movie on such subjects)!!! I hope they at least have the sensibility to retain Ravindra Jain's original music score and not go and get a new score done by the likes of Anu Malik! (yikes!)

[NeroASERCH]

Finally found the next Ilaiyaraja (for orchestration, style) + impeccable precision and fantastic rhythm is TEJ MANOJ - BUT one time wonder though.

http://devaragam.com/vbscript/MusicNew.aspx?MovieId=317 pRAJAPATHI song is mADHURAM (1)

possibly MSV, Ilaiyaraja, Rahman and others combined in style and content, but not at all prolific SHARATH - carnatic genius

http://devaragam.com/vbscript/MusicN...x?MovieId=1556

Ente Sindhoorekhayil (1) can be called very very extraordinary and unique composition

http://devaragam.com/vbscript/MusicNew.aspx?MovieId=542

Koodozhinju Kudiyeri Varunnu... [Chithra], [S Ramesan Nair], [Sarath] -Film:Sparsam.

http://devaragam.com/vbscript/MusicNew.aspx?MovieId=220

Diva Swapnam... [Unnikrishnan], [S Ramesan Nair], [Sarath] -Filmevadasi. like Jain's SHADAJNE

A genius of a song from the relatively low profile VIDHYASAGAR, he has some superb songs in Malayalam, in Tamil I did find some great ones, but not extraordinary

http://devaragam.com/vbscript/MusicNew.aspx?MovieId=55

Sumangali Kuruvi... [Yesudas], [Kaithapram], [Vidya Sagar] -Film:Azhakiya Ravanan. Stanza is one of the finest i have heard, however interlude inspired from strauss's waltz music

[radikal]

One of the most brilliant song choreography and screenplay in a very very funny film, Kishen Kannaiyya 1989 with 5, all of them amazing songs. Like to say it is as brilliantly written and made as Kalyanraman and Apoorva Sagotharargal. You can see this song start seems like Ilayaraja's inspiration for Mastana Mastana song. Rajesh Roshan, a rare Bollywood composer who incorporate carnatic sounds.

Suit Boot mey aaya Kannaiya.

can we get to see brilliance like this again.

[MannoFr]

natha,

Thanks for the links. Especially the Malayalam ones.

I have been impressed by Sharath's tuning. I loved 'raavil sandhya raagam' and was looking for his other work. (I had bought 'Tirakadha' earlier and his Telugu film) He is definitely an original thinker. Can't pin down his style yet. Do keep posting such unknown gems.

In case you are interested in old songs from various languages, you can check out the series I am running at my blog, http://sureshs65music.blogspot.com

[Ifroham4]

"Koodozhinju Kudiyeri Varunnu" incorporates the raga 'Kathanakuthukalam' very well. Wonderfully composed piece.

[radikal]

'Diva Swapnam' is the experimental Sarath at his best. Something he must have inherited from his guru, Dr.Balamuralikrishna. (This is the same as 'Sudha Mantram' isn't it?) The scale keeps shifting in this song and is not an easy song to sing. This was one of the first song of Sarath that I heard and was very impressed.