Well, there exists an irritating preconception among IR fans that those who prefer ARR over IR have not completely "understood" the depth of IR's music. While there is no doubt of IR's genius and brilliance of his songs, there exists a league who do appreciate IR's music for all that it has to offer, but yet prefer ARR's output.

Maddy, there is a slight advantage for old songs over new songs http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo.../icon_wink.gif . They kind of inspires extra awe when we think that it belonged to a different era. So when one ruminates through a old collection there is a different kind of impact. (None of these factors takes any credit away from the brilliance of the creation tho :P). So its not surprising for you to have met those 51 guys. Doesn't mean that there is some mysterious factor capable of converting ARR fan into a IR fan :P ... ellaa one off case nu dismiss pannidalaam :P

I could linger over the same topic for long, aana oru digression ku idhey too much :P Sorry Compli http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...on_redface.gif

P.S: Roshan, my signature is a Groucho marx quote http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif

kaNNa yEn urutturInga? vazhi maRaththalum thisai thiruththalum vAzhkkayil nadappathu thAnE. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif because IR displaced ARR inside me http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif

Digress aanalum nalla discussions http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif

Deepauk - muthAduthE muthAduthE vaanam is from Nallavanukku Nallavan illaiyA ? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...n_confused.gif

Roshan,
Even Srikanth Deva CAN do acoustic work. adhukkAga compli (or any IR fan) ku avar favorite aiduvaara?

Sorry for answering out of turn, IR-enbadhaal badhil seyya munaindhen http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif

Ilayaraja and AR Rahman - A Comparative Study
 

kaNNa yEn urutturInga? vazhi maRaththalum thisai thiruththalum vAzhkkayil nadappathu thAnE. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif

Thanks equanimus. I find it funny that something is assigned superiority but is still expected to conform to understandability.

kaNNa yEn urutturInga? vazhi maRaththalum thisai thiruththalum vAzhkkayil nadappathu thAnE. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif because IR displaced ARR inside me http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif For me it was the other way ..with all due respect to IR's isai http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif

kaNNa yEn urutturInga? vazhi maRaththalum thisai thiruththalum vAzhkkayil nadappathu thAnE. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif because IR displaced ARR inside me http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif For me it was the other way ..with all due respect to IR's isai http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif Same here, as in IR rose to the level of being equal favourites with ARR but later realization dawned and now I know I prefer ARR's songs more than anything else. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif

kaNNa yEn urutturInga? vazhi maRaththalum thisai thiruththalum vAzhkkayil nadappathu thAnE. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif because IR displaced ARR inside me http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif For me it was the other way ..with all due respect to IR's isai http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif Same here, as in IR rose to the level of being equal favourites with ARR but later realization dawned and now I know I prefer ARR's songs more than anything else. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo.../icon_cool.gif ARR fanskooda IR'kaaga saNdai pOtta kAlamum uNdu :P I still remember calling up an fm station and expressing my anger and frustration when one of the RJ's was going gaga over ARR. IppO athellAm nenechA http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/ashamed.gif

TV, signature nallA irukku http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif

my only question to Deepak - where do i find the "bodhi maram" where ARR fans(supposedly) go and turn themselves to IR fans? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif or is it too elusive for people like me http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/ymlol.gif

//btw, indha 1981/82 borns tholla thaanga mudiyala paa HUB-la.....thadukki vizhundha ivanga dhaan :P adiyen, LM, Honest, equa(?) and now compli(?) :P //

//Roshan, yehi hai right choice babyy aaahaaa http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/ymlol.gif yes, rahman doesent compose music the way it should be - a big mistake - his imagination is uncanny, my frnd who is a singer is still in awe how different is ARR from IR & rest in chord patterns.........he broke the entire pallavi-anupallavi-charanams or mukda-antra pattern in IFM....fusion-naa, ippadi dhaan irundhadha, eppadi venaalum pannalam-nnu maathhi - Manmohini from yuvvraaj - hindustani classical on trance beats saabbbbbbaaaa.....indha madhiri neraya thappu panni panni engala ellam paithhiyam aakkittaru//

my only question to Deepak - where do i find the "bodhi maram" where ARR fans(supposedly) go and turn themselves to IR fans? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif or is it too elusive for people like me http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/ymlol.gif neenga edhukku IR fan'aa maaranum http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...n_rolleyes.gif

PS... I know that u asked to Deepak, but I am assuming u as an ex-guest and asking http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif

i just said i wanted to find that tree......i dont have any plans for becoming IR fan in another 7 births atleast http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif evalavu jenmathhu punniyamo - i was born in same era and same parliamentary constituency as ARRahman - indha nanri kadan-nna seluthhave 7 jenmam aaidum http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif

Sudhir,
I hope I prefaced all my replies on music with the necessary IMOs and I feels. I definitely do not stipulate that music must be composed in anyway, but I prefer - always have and always will - acoustic music and live recording. I am critical even of rAjA and his current obsession with tinny synth sounds.
And I re-iterate what Sarna says above - ethukku mAraNum? Whatever I said was what I feel for rAjA's music. It is a result of the search for who I am. To paraphrase from GuNA and equanimus: "GnAnam enna bOthi maraththadiyilaya irukku, gnAnam manasula irukku". I hope no one misconstrues my notes on music as an attempt at proselytizing. Just a reflection of what gave me succor at a time of need.

Any 12 year old can "put" an alaap on any kind of beat (in fact 'fusion' nu thiriyara neraya peru adha thaan panrainga) and there are people who have done this and more earlier, be it trance or otherwise, like Talvin Singh (even leaving aside Shakti, IR etc aside). I do get your point, aana neenga kudutha description-a sonnen http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo.../icon_razz.gif
Manmohini-ku munnadi 'Fanaa'-ve irukke!

Sudhir,
I hope I prefaced all my replies on music with the necessary IMOs and I feels. I definitely do not stipulate that music must be composed in anyway, but I prefer - always have and always will - acoustic music and live recording. I am critical even of rAjA and his current obsession with tinny synth sounds. Adhu kAlathin kattAyam enRu ninaikkiREn. IR 90s'la vanthirunthA acoustic music, live recording ellAm paNNi iruppArA enbathu periya kELvi.


And I re-iterate what Sarna says above - ethukku mAraNum? Whatever I said was what I feel for rAjA's music. It is a result of the search for who I am. To paraphrase from GuNA and equanimus: "GnAnam enna bOthi maraththadiyilaya irukku, gnAnam manasula irukku" . I hope no one misconstrues my notes on music as an attempt at proselytizing. Just a reflection of what gave me succor at a time of need. IdhaithAn namma thalaivar 'vAnam enakkoru bOthi maram'-nu solli irukkAr http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif

i really was curious to know where does the change happen - u must be the 50 or 51st person i have met in my life who has said that he was a ARR fan but realised IR's music and went to him........curiosity killed sudhir http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo.../icon_wink.gif ofcourse, by god's grace, thalaivar is still blessed with lot of fans and love and support.....so not trying to trend any pattern here http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif

ofcourse in music, Bala made me realise that everything is IMO and i feel only http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo.../notworthy.gif

Ayyayo Maddy, i didn't try to reinforce the hub mantra of adding IMO to your posts. All posts are obviously IOO.
I was just nitpicking on your description. I have already told you my craze for 'fanaa' and my fights with DJs and sundry over this song.
Rahman-fusion isaiya pathi kuraiva sollala, just added some context...

Roshan,
Even Srikanth Deva CAN do acoustic work. adhukkAga compli (or any IR fan) ku avar favorite aiduvaara?

Sorry for answering out of turn, IR-enbadhaal badhil seyya munaindhen http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif Bala,
Thanks for sharing the burden. Yes that is very much the point. Even in terms of electronica there is quite a bit of trash floating out there. ellArum Rahman AyiduvAngaLA? As Guitar Prasanna said in some interview, it usually takes someone of rAjA's understanding [w.r.t to WCM] to talk about writing "invertible counterpoints on the 10th". [Don't ask me what that means, some research led me to this link which I am still in the process of deciphering.]

Roshan,
Even Srikanth Deva CAN do acoustic work. adhukkAga compli (or any IR fan) ku avar favorite aiduvaara?

Sorry for answering out of turn, IR-enbadhaal badhil seyya munaindhen http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif Bala, my response was to the bolded line of Depauk's response. Naan acoustic work thappunnu solla varala - but synth oru kuRRam enRu solla vanthathu thappunnu sonnEn. And he was making that comparison for a question related to ARR and not any tom, dick or harry. Adhaan koncham tension AyittEn. avarE ellOrum ARR aagi vida mudiyumAnnu appuRam solRaar. Hope you understood. illEnna vitturunga :P

kuRRam kaNdu pidikka nAn nakkeeran-A? kuRRam enbathalla en vAtham. pidikkavillai enbathE en vAtham.

Fine Deepauk. Understood http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif I infact added a few lines to my previous post to Bala, before seeing this response of yours.