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**NeroASERCH** · 04-08-2006, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by MrJudge Originally Posted by MADDY i guess ARR singing for YSR is more possible than YSR singing for ARR.....

Usually in tfm industry, retired mds will sing under someother MD's music direction. So YSR singing for TB is out of question but TB singng for YSR is very much likely

ya rite, no wonder Ilayaraja sang for YSR in "namma kaatula" from Pattiyal.......

Yeah, IR is retired dude, and so is TB who was given early retirement from tfm hehehe

**Paul Bunyan** · 04-09-2006, 03:01 AM

MrJudge!!!
Your comments are so below the belt that they rob the merit of whatever little sense you try to make. ARR is a master in his own right, very much the same way IR is. YSR is young star on rise and comparisons are always odious. They are even more absurd in the field of art. Just think how naive on would sound if they started comparing Thiruvalluvar with bharathiyar and Ilango adigal or Keats! Thiruvalluvar's style was expressing a profound truth with brevity bordering non-expression, while someone like Kambar was overflowing with ideas and allegories. In much the same way musicians also cannot be compared which is what IR said in his "How To Name It?" with a piece called "Dont compare".
Now I appeal to you to refrain from calling ARR as TB or by any other name. This is not to regain any honour for ARR, but for you to be seen as some one with a good point for discussion. Otherwise your posts will end up as a few more MBs in the e-garbage that is around many forums these days. Of course you are free to disregard this simple piece of advice and take your wonderful potshots at me too.

**MannoFr** · 04-10-2006, 05:48 AM

wonderful reply jaiganes. u r bang on target when u say "Just think how naive on would sound if they started comparing Thiruvalluvar with bharathiyar and Ilango adigal or Keats"

classsic example.

but meanwhile we can still compare the style of composing of these geniuses. i've been listening to a lot of IR for the past one month. It has been like baptism for me. i've been livin in TN right from my birth and it took 19 yrs for me to recognise the treasure that had been there all the time. but i am still an ARR fan and wud love to discuss abt these geniuses

**tgs** · 04-10-2006, 05:59 AM

Vellai Pookal is an excellent song by ARR. So is Dil Se Re. I have to say that I have not listened to the rest of the songs in that list, since my interest in ARR's music took a sharp dip since 2000.

If we look at it that way, even IR has sung songs like Janani Janani and Naan thedum which have attracted the masses. But his voice is still not that good and he sounds bad in most of his songs.

Likewise, ARR's singing leaves a lot to be desired, especially when he takes it upon himself to sing in high pitches.

There's nothing much original in YSR's singing(or music, for that matter) either. For me, he is just another ARR clone when it comes to singing, he tries to sing really high pitched and the output is pathetic, unless you are just listening just for the beats in the son. I can list a number of songs which both have ruined.

But in any case, ARR has made great songs with other singers. YSR has made some hummable songs with other singers. It would be a blessing if they would leave the singing to those that really do have the voice for those particular songs. For example, Shankar Mahadevan has rarely faltered in a song, whatever the pitch.

I can understand that there are particular fans of one or another, but by large, the audience is made up of general music lovers who would like to appreciate the product they buy.

**Lt_Apple** · 04-10-2006, 06:19 AM

jaiganes, no use telling those things to judge..he is one kindaa man who never had the courage to reply direct queries at him but wud rather enjoy talking sarcastically about A.R.Rahman or calling him names....... leave him that way..

i have often asked him direct question, which he coolly chose to ignore and instead change track..

btw u made a very nice point...

**Raj_Copi_Jin** · 04-10-2006, 11:19 AM

This Guy Must be ban MR. Judge
Hey guys ARR is Big Icon for india, IF anyone insult him then we see it without taking any action, it's nothing to say we are arr fans. so guys this Aamai must be banned.

So TFM Admin, i kindly request u ban him, because of Insult Mozert of Asia A.R.Rahman

**MannoFr** · 04-10-2006, 04:37 PM

MrJudge!!!
Your comments are so below the belt that they rob the merit of whatever little sense you try to make. ARR is a master in his own right, very much the same way IR is. YSR is young star on rise and comparisons are always odious. They are even more absurd in the field of art. Just think how naive on would sound if they started comparing Thiruvalluvar with bharathiyar and Ilango adigal or Keats! Thiruvalluvar's style was expressing a profound truth with brevity bordering non-expression, while someone like Kambar was overflowing with ideas and allegories. In much the same way musicians also cannot be compared which is what IR said in his "How To Name It?" with a piece called "Dont compare".
Now I appeal to you to refrain from calling ARR as TB or by any other name. This is not to regain any honour for ARR, but for you to be seen as some one with a good point for discussion. Otherwise your posts will end up as a few more MBs in the e-garbage that is around many forums these days. Of course you are free to disregard this simple piece of advice and take your wonderful potshots at me too.

Thanks for your useful piece of advice. I think you got me wrong here. I have not compared the mds (atleast in this thread), my reply was just about retired mds. So I guess your posting is not aimed at me except calling him TB piece.

**S.T.D.** · 04-10-2006, 04:38 PM

jaiganes, no use telling those things to judge..he is one kindaa man who never had the courage to reply direct queries at him but wud rather enjoy talking sarcastically about A.R.Rahman or calling him names....... leave him that way.. i have often asked him direct question, which he coolly chose to ignore and instead change track..

btw u made a very nice point...

And your direct questions are?

**Ifroham4** · 04-10-2006, 04:42 PM

This Guy Must be ban MR. Judge
Hey guys ARR is Big Icon for india, IF anyone insult him then we see it without taking any action, it's nothing to say we are arr fans. so guys this Aamai must be banned.

So TFM Admin, i kindly request u ban him, because of Insult Mozert of Asia A.R.Rahman

"because of Insult Mozert of Asia"

Why do you insult Mozart, man? That term was used by ALW just to sell his broadway tickets and a simple marketing strategy. Why you too are falling for that?

**TorryJens** · 04-11-2006, 04:49 AM

Hey The Mozert of Asia give not by us, or not indian, it give by Webber and Chinis People, ya ofcourse, ARR better then Mozert

Hello Admin, we just ask u that this word must be ban here TB.
otherwish don't ban anyone

**softy54534** · 04-11-2006, 05:07 AM

muzammil, i have posted 2-3 PMs and many msgs to admins requesting them to have a word with judge..they never seem to have done it.........best thing to do is for every derogatory post abt ARR we shuld post in YSR section.........i guess that is how we can admin's attention.....

**Lillie_Steins** · 04-11-2006, 06:34 AM

sari judge itho pidichiko(-nga in case you are an elder), direct questions

(1) What makes you hate A.R.Rahman and why do u spit venom on him.. no no it definitely not bcoz ur IR fan...coz IR fans are actually sensible ppl... It is not your love for Yuvan too...coz it actually seem to me like a betrayed party activist working for the opposition party

(2) Why are u happy about A.R.Rahman's films' failure... There seems to be some personal vendetta against him.. You have talked so much so that you are Mr.Grudge than Mr.Judge

(3) Your main intention seems to be bringing down ARR at the slightest opportunity than bringing Yuvan or some other MD up., coz even while praising Yuvan's best work you only seem to be interested in taking a dig at ARR's fame

(4) I learnt somewhere (from one of your statement) that you got hurt by ARR fans mocking at you some years back and you are retaliating now.. Is this the true reason for all the points above?

Ithai answer panreengala Sir..konjam directah paneenganna nalla irukum instead of dragging it / dodging it

**TorryJens** · 04-11-2006, 05:30 PM

sari judge itho pidichiko(-nga in case you are an elder), direct questions

Ithai answer panreengala Sir..konjam directah paneenganna nalla irukum instead of dragging it / dodging it

itukkellam poi 4 questions kettu web space-a waste panreengale. naan kooda ennomo music quiz ketka poreengannu paaththa........

**9mm_fan** · 04-11-2006, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by rsubras sari judge itho pidichiko(-nga in case you are an elder), direct questions

Ithai answer panreengala Sir..konjam directah paneenganna nalla irukum instead of dragging it / dodging it

itukkellam poi 4 questions kettu web space-a waste panreengale. naan kooda ennomo music quiz ketka poreengannu paaththa........ Wayta make urself look like a fool Senor Judge.

**Peptobismol** · 04-11-2006, 06:09 PM

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**softy54534** · 04-11-2006, 11:32 PM

Locking this topic, as nothing on the original topic seems to be discussed. If you want me to unlock, pm me with a valid reason..

**Lillie_Steins** · 06-13-2006, 07:00 AM

Why don't you call both and ask to please stop singing in films? I think most people would feel very satisfied with that

**LottiFurmann** · 06-17-2006, 07:00 AM

Its just a gamble...I feel very soon, Harris would call Deva and ask to sing him for a copied song in his music or Deva would call Harris to sing a copied song in his music...

How do you people feel when that combo happens !!!...

**9mm_fan** · 09-27-2006, 07:00 AM

This Guy Must be ban MR. Judge
Hey guys ARR is Big Icon for india, IF anyone insult him then we see it without taking any action, it's nothing to say we are arr fans. so guys this Aamai must be banned.

So TFM Admin, i kindly request u ban him, because of Insult Mozert of Asia A.R.Rahman

ok ban all others. you live here. is it?

04-08-2006, 08:18 PM	#21
NeroASERCH Join Date Jul 2006 Posts 5,147 Senior Member	Originally Posted by MrJudge Originally Posted by MADDY i guess ARR singing for YSR is more possible than YSR singing for ARR..... Usually in tfm industry, retired mds will sing under someother MD's music direction. So YSR singing for TB is out of question but TB singng for YSR is very much likely ya rite, no wonder Ilayaraja sang for YSR in "namma kaatula" from Pattiyal....... Yeah, IR is retired dude, and so is TB who was given early retirement from tfm hehehe Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-09-2006, 03:01 AM	#22
Paul Bunyan Join Date Jul 2007 Age 59 Posts 4,495 Senior Member	MrJudge!!! Your comments are so below the belt that they rob the merit of whatever little sense you try to make. ARR is a master in his own right, very much the same way IR is. YSR is young star on rise and comparisons are always odious. They are even more absurd in the field of art. Just think how naive on would sound if they started comparing Thiruvalluvar with bharathiyar and Ilango adigal or Keats! Thiruvalluvar's style was expressing a profound truth with brevity bordering non-expression, while someone like Kambar was overflowing with ideas and allegories. In much the same way musicians also cannot be compared which is what IR said in his "How To Name It?" with a piece called "Dont compare". Now I appeal to you to refrain from calling ARR as TB or by any other name. This is not to regain any honour for ARR, but for you to be seen as some one with a good point for discussion. Otherwise your posts will end up as a few more MBs in the e-garbage that is around many forums these days. Of course you are free to disregard this simple piece of advice and take your wonderful potshots at me too. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2006, 05:48 AM	#23
MannoFr Join Date Mar 2007 Posts 4,451 Senior Member	wonderful reply jaiganes. u r bang on target when u say "Just think how naive on would sound if they started comparing Thiruvalluvar with bharathiyar and Ilango adigal or Keats" classsic example. but meanwhile we can still compare the style of composing of these geniuses. i've been listening to a lot of IR for the past one month. It has been like baptism for me. i've been livin in TN right from my birth and it took 19 yrs for me to recognise the treasure that had been there all the time. but i am still an ARR fan and wud love to discuss abt these geniuses Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2006, 05:59 AM	#24
tgs Join Date Mar 2007 Age 48 Posts 5,125 Senior Member	Vellai Pookal is an excellent song by ARR. So is Dil Se Re. I have to say that I have not listened to the rest of the songs in that list, since my interest in ARR's music took a sharp dip since 2000. If we look at it that way, even IR has sung songs like Janani Janani and Naan thedum which have attracted the masses. But his voice is still not that good and he sounds bad in most of his songs. Likewise, ARR's singing leaves a lot to be desired, especially when he takes it upon himself to sing in high pitches. There's nothing much original in YSR's singing(or music, for that matter) either. For me, he is just another ARR clone when it comes to singing, he tries to sing really high pitched and the output is pathetic, unless you are just listening just for the beats in the son. I can list a number of songs which both have ruined. But in any case, ARR has made great songs with other singers. YSR has made some hummable songs with other singers. It would be a blessing if they would leave the singing to those that really do have the voice for those particular songs. For example, Shankar Mahadevan has rarely faltered in a song, whatever the pitch. I can understand that there are particular fans of one or another, but by large, the audience is made up of general music lovers who would like to appreciate the product they buy. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2006, 06:19 AM	#25
Lt_Apple Join Date Dec 2008 Posts 4,489 Senior Member	jaiganes, no use telling those things to judge..he is one kindaa man who never had the courage to reply direct queries at him but wud rather enjoy talking sarcastically about A.R.Rahman or calling him names....... leave him that way.. i have often asked him direct question, which he coolly chose to ignore and instead change track.. btw u made a very nice point... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2006, 11:19 AM	#26
Raj_Copi_Jin Join Date Oct 2005 Age 48 Posts 4,533 Senior Member	This Guy Must be ban MR. Judge Hey guys ARR is Big Icon for india, IF anyone insult him then we see it without taking any action, it's nothing to say we are arr fans. so guys this Aamai must be banned. So TFM Admin, i kindly request u ban him, because of Insult Mozert of Asia A.R.Rahman Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2006, 04:37 PM	#27
MannoFr Join Date Mar 2007 Posts 4,451 Senior Member	MrJudge!!! Your comments are so below the belt that they rob the merit of whatever little sense you try to make. ARR is a master in his own right, very much the same way IR is. YSR is young star on rise and comparisons are always odious. They are even more absurd in the field of art. Just think how naive on would sound if they started comparing Thiruvalluvar with bharathiyar and Ilango adigal or Keats! Thiruvalluvar's style was expressing a profound truth with brevity bordering non-expression, while someone like Kambar was overflowing with ideas and allegories. In much the same way musicians also cannot be compared which is what IR said in his "How To Name It?" with a piece called "Dont compare". Now I appeal to you to refrain from calling ARR as TB or by any other name. This is not to regain any honour for ARR, but for you to be seen as some one with a good point for discussion. Otherwise your posts will end up as a few more MBs in the e-garbage that is around many forums these days. Of course you are free to disregard this simple piece of advice and take your wonderful potshots at me too. Thanks for your useful piece of advice. I think you got me wrong here. I have not compared the mds (atleast in this thread), my reply was just about retired mds. So I guess your posting is not aimed at me except calling him TB piece. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2006, 04:38 PM	#28
S.T.D. Join Date May 2008 Age 43 Posts 5,220 Senior Member	jaiganes, no use telling those things to judge..he is one kindaa man who never had the courage to reply direct queries at him but wud rather enjoy talking sarcastically about A.R.Rahman or calling him names....... leave him that way.. i have often asked him direct question, which he coolly chose to ignore and instead change track.. btw u made a very nice point... And your direct questions are? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2006, 04:42 PM	#29
Ifroham4 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,196 Senior Member	This Guy Must be ban MR. Judge Hey guys ARR is Big Icon for india, IF anyone insult him then we see it without taking any action, it's nothing to say we are arr fans. so guys this Aamai must be banned. So TFM Admin, i kindly request u ban him, because of Insult Mozert of Asia A.R.Rahman "because of Insult Mozert of Asia" Why do you insult Mozart, man? That term was used by ALW just to sell his broadway tickets and a simple marketing strategy. Why you too are falling for that? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-11-2006, 04:49 AM	#30
TorryJens Join Date Nov 2008 Posts 4,494 Senior Member	Hey The Mozert of Asia give not by us, or not indian, it give by Webber and Chinis People, ya ofcourse, ARR better then Mozert Hello Admin, we just ask u that this word must be ban here TB. otherwish don't ban anyone Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-11-2006, 05:07 AM	#31
softy54534 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,457 Senior Member	muzammil, i have posted 2-3 PMs and many msgs to admins requesting them to have a word with judge..they never seem to have done it.........best thing to do is for every derogatory post abt ARR we shuld post in YSR section.........i guess that is how we can admin's attention..... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-11-2006, 06:34 AM	#32
Lillie_Steins Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 4,508 Senior Member	sari judge itho pidichiko(-nga in case you are an elder), direct questions (1) What makes you hate A.R.Rahman and why do u spit venom on him.. no no it definitely not bcoz ur IR fan...coz IR fans are actually sensible ppl... It is not your love for Yuvan too...coz it actually seem to me like a betrayed party activist working for the opposition party (2) Why are u happy about A.R.Rahman's films' failure... There seems to be some personal vendetta against him.. You have talked so much so that you are Mr.Grudge than Mr.Judge (3) Your main intention seems to be bringing down ARR at the slightest opportunity than bringing Yuvan or some other MD up., coz even while praising Yuvan's best work you only seem to be interested in taking a dig at ARR's fame (4) I learnt somewhere (from one of your statement) that you got hurt by ARR fans mocking at you some years back and you are retaliating now.. Is this the true reason for all the points above? Ithai answer panreengala Sir..konjam directah paneenganna nalla irukum instead of dragging it / dodging it Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-11-2006, 05:30 PM	#33
TorryJens Join Date Nov 2008 Posts 4,494 Senior Member	sari judge itho pidichiko(-nga in case you are an elder), direct questions Ithai answer panreengala Sir..konjam directah paneenganna nalla irukum instead of dragging it / dodging it itukkellam poi 4 questions kettu web space-a waste panreengale. naan kooda ennomo music quiz ketka poreengannu paaththa........ Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-11-2006, 05:56 PM	#34
9mm_fan Join Date May 2007 Age 54 Posts 5,191 Senior Member	Originally Posted by rsubras sari judge itho pidichiko(-nga in case you are an elder), direct questions Ithai answer panreengala Sir..konjam directah paneenganna nalla irukum instead of dragging it / dodging it itukkellam poi 4 questions kettu web space-a waste panreengale. naan kooda ennomo music quiz ketka poreengannu paaththa........ Wayta make urself look like a fool Senor Judge. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-13-2006, 07:00 AM	#37
Lillie_Steins Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 4,508 Senior Member	Why don't you call both and ask to please stop singing in films? I think most people would feel very satisfied with that Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-17-2006, 07:00 AM	#38
LottiFurmann Join Date Jan 2008 Posts 4,494 Senior Member	Its just a gamble...I feel very soon, Harris would call Deva and ask to sing him for a copied song in his music or Deva would call Harris to sing a copied song in his music... How do you people feel when that combo happens !!!... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-27-2006, 07:00 AM	#39
9mm_fan Join Date May 2007 Age 54 Posts 5,191 Senior Member	This Guy Must be ban MR. Judge Hey guys ARR is Big Icon for india, IF anyone insult him then we see it without taking any action, it's nothing to say we are arr fans. so guys this Aamai must be banned. So TFM Admin, i kindly request u ban him, because of Insult Mozert of Asia A.R.Rahman ok ban all others. you live here. is it? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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