[largonioulurI]

Why learn how to read and write if you can pay some one to do those things.

[LasTins]

Pailin, my point of view in that case was that after all, it is disrespectful to the mother, especially if she is present. I am not arguing with you though

[tuszit]

okay...so first it sounded like you were upset with her opinion, and now you're upset becaue she corrected your grammar a month ago? ?? Have you tried talking with her about this? I doubt her intention is to hurt you.

[Fvmfrctt]

Pailin, Hi, doing fine. About betti you ask? She made a remark a month or so ago about a post I made questioning her thoughts on light skin thai's. Because I did not spell a person's name correctly or agree with her she noted that I could not read or write. She notes other people's errors in grammer and word usage at times. Not many people could post properly if she put them thru her testing procedure first. So, there it is. Think she would be alot more at home if she taught whatever she teaches in her native country.

[LasTins]

I know why the kids call me mom, we have good relationship, etc, etc. STILL, it can be embarrassing, etc etc.
Lenss, cut it. I know what I am doing and I know what I see. generally speaking. just like most of us, learning and keeping an open mind. don't lecture me. you don't know anything about me and you don't seem to care. you read something I wrote, chose to misunderstand the motives for my reaction, and keep going on and on about it. just stop.

thanks Mel for your reaction.
no, I "only" spend 9 hours at school. we take turns staying behind in the evening.
yes, I have heard parents telling their kids that teachers are their second mums. we got loads of presents for mother's day and some fathers wanted to take my picture with the kid and mother. I don't mind being called mother. I don't have kids of my own and I really put all my energy into this job. still, it is embarrassing for me WHEN the real mother is there.

clear?

[Fvmfrctt]

C'mon Betti! Anyone who has lived in thailand for more than a month know's that once a farang or other person becomes accepted and respected they are referred to as mom or dad or Grand Pa or uncle or any other type of name the family can think of. If it bothers you to be called mom by a student then it's time for you to split the country. Go Home...Cause you will never uderstand thai ways.

[Fvmfrctt]

Pailin, I see you have the gift of being able to speak read and write thai. Would have been helpful if you had posted your thoughts about betti being called mom by a student. My experience with thai's is being around them and listening to what they say. Picking up words and meanings. My experience is nothing compared to yours. Grammar? Alot more than that. And she has done it on other occassions. To me and others. Think it would be great if she left her teaching cap at school at the end of her work day.

[Fvmfrctt]

Thanks Mel for your view on a student calling a teacher mom. My guess is that if the mom was present during the remark made to Teacher Betti, about being called mom, the Bio mom would hve smiled. Betti, go behind, I think, what your fellow teachers tell you. You are in thailand betti, teaching children, but I wonder, what do you see.??? What are you observing.? Can you get detached??

[tuszit]

I agreed with what she said, and I didn't need to reiterate that. I did post my opinion in this thread, but it was in disagreement with something you stated.
We all have different experiences in Thailand...that is what makes these discussions so interesting.
I'm sorry that you get offended by Betti. I've been on these forums for a while and have never felt that way about her... again, I suggest you talk with her about it.

[tuszit]

Oh, I absolutely agree...I was just referring back specifically to Lenss' assertions.

[LasTins]

ok, I'll lighten up during the weekend.

[darieBarexish]

Betti

As a teacher, being called "mommy", you are highly respected. I guess the reason your Thai colleague asked the kid to cut it because she didn't know how you would react to this word.

We respect our teacher but only "good teacher" is considered as second mom/dad. Some allow students to call them mom/dad, they teach and take good care of their students not only in school but also giving advices and support in personal matters too.

Almost 11 hours a day!!! I am sure she loves you very much .

It is normal for Thai people to call everybody/strangers as mom, dad, uncle, aunt, sister, brother, etc. with or without respect/acceptance, but to call a teacher as "mommy" is different, it is special and reflexes good feelings of student to the teacher.

[Fvmfrctt]

Hi Pailin. Looked at your profile. Family picture? It appears all persons pictured are thai, except for one. Kinda wondering which person pictured is you.

[Fvmfrctt]

Betti, I recall you lecturing others about their ability to read and write. Because you just have difficulity with others not being as smart as you. It's you that needs to lighten up.

[LasTins]

it doesn't bother me, it is just embarrassing when the real mother is around.
no, teachers are normally not called mother. never ever heard this with anyone else. my Thai colleague asked the kids to cut it the first time she heard.
thank you for your advice, but I think I can interpret whatever is happening around me with the help of colleagues and parents. and in this case, you are wrong.

[tuszit]

Anyone who has lived in thailand for more than a month know's that once a farang or other person becomes accepted and respected they are referred to as mom or dad or Grand Pa or uncle or any other type of name the family can think of Calling a teacher 'mom' would be disrespectful to the rank of teacher in the community.

[tuszit]

lenss what is your problem today? are you okay?

[largonioulurI]

Now that mothers go to work and contribute financially to the family, they are now free to chose what they want in life.

[Abarricoss]

As you know that nowadays everything in Thailand has changed and also the culture, traditional, lifestyle etc. so, women in Thailand have changed, it effect with the mothering. How the last 20 years mother and nowadays mother are different? what is the reasons they have changes?

[Dominick Yo]

Sorry, i don't know. Personally speaking, i don't think that Thai motherhood has changed that much at all over the past 20 years.
In fact, that i would say, is a problem. Mentally, Thai mothers have been unable to adapt to the times and are still raising their children just like their mother did them.
20 years ago, rural mothers left thier children with the kids' gradmother - well that still happens now.
The only change i would say, is that nowadays urban middle-class mothers spend even less of their free time with their children as they send them more and more to private tutorial schools and piano/tennis/golf classes.