[Illirmpipse]

Where is the 'relationally disconnected people longing to be connected' category? Or is that covered under Goth?

[AnneseeKels]

I often find me calling myself "Gibbo", or "Stuart" if its a bad day.

Lucien : Tap dance on your nuts = very funny.....

[hubua990]

Where's the nerdcore selection? I'm a casual intellectual and stuff, with a nerd-like center.

[HakSpeame]

I often find me calling myself "Gibbo", or "Stuart" if its a bad day.

....

there's always one

I thought geeky options may have offended some, that's why I included the wierd thing. I suppose there's all types of wierd, it's open to interperatation.
A prime example of mas subculture gathering was the Whitby Gothic festival. I went down for a photoshoot..... Those guys are great ^^

[jq0AFTTC]

0 None of the above.
0 All of the above.
If you had I would have voted none of the above, and I only fart at home.

[KeettyGlots]

bored of what appears to be people's constant need to classify themsevles into the groups just listed and then most likely follow up by saying how individual they are

otherwise known as who gives a damn. Does a chav get a +2 attack modifier against a goth or something? Can emo not cross over water?

Am i missing something here?

Another D&D fan eh?
As for goths not being able to cross water.. they are not vampires (as described in D&D ver 3.0 and 3.5). Actually, I think that they would be in a class for Dragon Disciple but for vampires insted of Dragons.
I think it was in the "Compleate Adventurer" book.

BTW, Fighter/Rokugan Samurai is a great combo. It makes for one nasty character. Especally when you get a bunch of undead.... It may not be as good as a cleric but since they have no CON you can tear them to peices with the "Great Cleave" feat. He he he he.... Not to mention that My characters Shinken has Keen, Frost, Frost burst, speed and Eager on it.
My total attack bonus is 51/51/46/41/37 With a critical range of 12-20x/3 with 1d10+43 Damage on regular hits.
The character also knows Batto-Do. ^__^

[Grennios]

Charuzu, being an avid D&D player myself, I'd be interested in knowing what stat bonus's chav characters have? They have some really good special items like cap of burberry, hoop earings. How about item modifiers like the LV design.

[55Beaphable]

Not you in particular.

I'm talking about the type of young people who think that because they don't fall into any one 'stereotype,' that means they "can't be labeled." And they are (annoyingly) proud of it. As if they are trying too hard to be "unique."

That's either the "indie kid" demographic or the "weird" one. trying to be weird is one step before emo in my book of ignominy.

[Ufkkrxcq]

What the hell is a "chav"?

[yurawerj]

Charuzu, being an avid D&D player myself, I'd be interested in knowing what stat bonus's chav characters have? They have some really good special items like cap of burberry, hoop earings. How about item modifiers like the LV design.

Chav's are kinda Intresting. I would recomend you multi-class Wigger and Commoner. However, They are intresting becuse of the Changed "Craft" Skill. When they make an Item it is always cursed. Lets say they make a "Belt of Bull's Strength (+10)... They will insted make a "Belt of Cat's Strength (-10).

They also have an -20 mod on Intimmidate and Bluff as well as sence Motive. However, They do get a +50 on Innuendo and Escape Artist. They are also good at Tarunt. Not to mention that they get a speed bonus simmilar to a monk as long as they are wearing Burberry clothing. However, they do not make good bards seeing how when they multi-class with them they shoot the other bards for "speaking smack" about them. Also, while Bards usall 'charm' people.... Chavs just annoy them.

Also, their Fortitude and Reflex checks are rather good but their Will saves are not so hot.

My final note....
They can make great and Memorable NCP's but I would not recommend them for a PC. And rember... always ask you DM before-hand

[MortgFinsJohnQ]

What the hell is a "chav"?

I guess they're probably like an American gangster. they wear loads of burberry, fake where possible, fake designer labels and tracksuits. They also seem to have developed much of there own dialect and have an outstanding obsession with swearing, rapping and "Maccy D's". Unfortunately the area where I live is abundant with Chavas.
Oh, I almost forgot - They layer themselves with gold like a secong skin.

[ThzinChang]

What the hell is a "chav"?

The Wikipedia article on the chav or the decline and fall of the British Empire.

[Lymneterfeiff]

Chav's are kinda Intresting. I would recomend you multi-class Wigger and Commoner. However, They are intresting becuse of the Changed "Craft" Skill. When they make an Item it is always cursed. Lets say they make a "Belt of Bull's Strength (+10)... They will insted make a "Belt of Cat's Strength (-10).

They also have an -20 mod on Intimmidate and Bluff as well as sence Motive. However, They do get a +50 on Innuendo and Escape Artist. They are also good at Tarunt. Not to mention that they get a speed bonus simmilar to a monk as long as they are wearing Burberry clothing. However, they do not make good bards seeing how when they multi-class with them they shoot the other bards for "speaking smack" about them. Also, while Bards usall 'charm' people.... Chavs just annoy them.

Also, their Fortitude and Reflex checks are rather good but their Will saves are not so hot.

My final note....
They can make great and Memorable NCP's but I would not recommend them for a PC. And rember... always ask you DM before-hand

I'd like to chirp in with some more suggestions although I'm an casual and irregular gamer.

Instead of the speed bonus all items of armor/clothing have the ability to (for 20% more ) be branded by the mark of Burberry which adds +15 to "blingness" (charisma) but at -10 Int.

I'd also put forth the following species defects and benefits from assorted books and my brain:

Travels in packs: When joined by other chavs his Will saves have a +5 but if confronted alone he must pass his save twice.

Not So tough: Character is less durable than his level suggests: -5 to HP

He's da leadah: Regardless of any other attributes the character with the highest Bling (Cha) factor is the leader.

[JohnMaltczevitch]

because I am from a non english speaking country,I dont understand some of these names.And I also agree with what other people said,that this discrimination is mainly for music,style and people you like.When I was in school,until the end of university,I was certainly a vinyl clad goth -industrial etc girl. My "core" is until now like this(but you cannot go to work dressed like you are out of the dungeon) , but nowadays I wake up every day with a different mood and appetite for music,clothes etc, ranging from goth to classic.

by the way,I wondered if anybody is thinking like me:I sometimes ask myself if its normal after puberty (I am 25 almost) to still love all this weird underground stuff.

So,I voted for weird because everybody says I am so,when I say that I equally like marilyn manson,Ken Watanabe and Gabriel Byrne(actor).

[leijggigf]

I'd like to chirp in with some more suggestions although I'm an casual and irregular gamer.

Instead of the speed bonus all items of armor/clothing have the ability to (for 20% more ) be branded by the mark of Burberry which adds +15 to "blingness" (charisma) but at -10 Int.

I'd also put forth the following species defects and benefits from assorted books and my brain:

Travels in packs: When joined by other chavs his Will saves have a +5 but if confronted alone he must pass his save twice.

Not So tough: Character is less durable than his level suggests: -5 to HP

He's da leadah: Regardless of any other attributes the character with the highest Bling (Cha) factor is the leader.

Sounds good.
However, I'm not your DM.... It's all up to the DM in the end,

[peemovvie]

neil, please note that althought it's become sort of a buzz word among the british now, and it's got the whole thing about people being "neo-snobs" and classism etc. Being a south londoner, we used it for a type of people who who enjoy sitting in big groups, harrassing random people, thowing random projectiles at them, destroying/vandalising random property and mugging old people or anyone who is an easy target. I don't dislike them because i'm being a "neo snob". I dislike them because they are just twats.

[Prosocorneliay]

Not you in particular.

I'm talking about the type of young people who think that because they don't fall into any one 'stereotype,' that means they "can't be labeled." And they are (annoyingly) proud of it. As if they are trying too hard to be "unique."

Well, I just dont feel I can be labeled by a single word. I mean, I fit into 3 or so of those poll choices listed.

[forotis]

Where's the "I roll 20's" category? And what about the "Rogues do it from behind" option?

[antipenq]

I don't dislike them because i'm being a "neo snob". I dislike them because they are just twats.

...adding Frame to my buddy list...

[ZanazaKar]

neil, please note that althought it's become sort of a buzz word among the british now, and it's got the whole thing about people being "neo-snobs" and classism etc. Being a south londoner, we used it for a type of people who who enjoy sitting in big groups, harrassing random people, thowing random projectiles at them, destroying/vandalising random property and mugging old people or anyone who is an easy target. I don't dislike them because i'm being a "neo snob". I dislike them because they are just twats.

So they are football hooligans then? Or what a while ago (years)someone described to me as "Yobs"?