gun kendo?
 

Anybody ever heard of it or seen it? I was looking through a bogu catolouge I got out here in Japan, and in the back they had a small section for something called "JuKendo" JU being the kanji for "gun"

The armor looked pretty much the same but it had this really cool looking left shoulder guard (imagine something like what Cloud wore from Final Fantasy 7), and the Tare had a small clip at about the right hip, looks like you can clip or hang something from there, and the Tsuki pad, was really wide. The MEN, DO, KOTE, and TARE looked pretty much just like Kendo bogu. it also included something called a "Koshibutoun" (lower back pad?)

on the next page you could also buy, rubber knives, wooden pistols, and padded staffs, and bats.

looked interesting. Anyone know anything about it?

Jukendo is Bayonet fencing, plain and simple.

Indeed it is. It's realy only practiced by those who are old enough to have done it as part of their military training during the war.

Jukendo...bayonet fighting. The two target areas ate the tsuki and the heart(hence the weird chest rig). You only use the rifle/bayonet. The rubbey knives and pistols are probably for chanbara or some other martial arts training tools.

This very magazine had features on jukendo.

I read somewhere that Jukendo was taken from the British Army Bayonet fighting manual.

Any ideas?

wouldn't be all that surprising.

Though japan HAS had the gun since a little before the tokugawa if i'm not mistaken. Anyone know when the bayonet was imported/invented?

Meik and Dianne Skoss are both trained in jukendo. Their dojo website is here although I don't believe they're currently teaching jukendo.

History of the Bayonet:

http://www.historicalweapons.com/bayonets.html

I've had a look around the net, but can find very little as to the history of modern Jukendo or how/where the techniques originated from.

I found some interesting pictures...

http://www.bogubag.com/Bogu/Jukendo/J01_L.jpg
http://ejmas.com/tin/jukendo.jpg
http://www.alsok.co.jp/sports/image/jukendo_image4.jpg

Wow. I love this site. I learn so much everytime I pop in. I'd love to try that out once or twice.

Doesnt the Self defense force practice jukendo?. One of my shiatsu practitioners used to practice it and he's only 30-something.

Jakob

You mean those wiley japos have been practicing military arts when they promised not to? I am SHOCKED!!!!http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/mad2.gif

No different to the Brazilians doing Capoeira... http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif

Sorry, I'm pretty thick, please explain that to me.

p.s. one of my sempai is a Japanese from Brazil who works for Deutchesbank so I'm trying to figure out the Japanese/Portugese/German thing

They were banned from practicing MA so they created Capoeira the dance (and secret MA).

Really? It's more than possible, I just based my supposition on the fact that whenever I see a taikai report it's full of old guys. Not quite sure of it's military value, but then again they do practice kendo as well...

Aaaaeeeiieee. Wakarimasu.

I have been doing some reseach into Mayan culture and in the course thereof I have found several theories on the european "discovery" of Brazil. The one I like the most is that prior to 1492 the Portugese, who were the best sailors and navigators in the western world, "discovered" Brazil. The Portugese "owned" the routes around Africa to the Indies and, because they had forts all around the east and west coasts of Africa, could stop anyone who tried to take that route. That gave them the opportunity to check out the west and the southern currents sent them to Brazil.
There was a big problem with Spain and the Vatican so Portugal kept its mouth shut. Eventually Chrisopher Columbus either stole the Portugese charts or the Portugese "arranged" for him to obtain them. Columbus, who was neither a good sailor nor a good navigator, sold his "idea" about travelling west to India to Ferdinand and Isbella (Probably Isbella) and "discovered" Hispanola.
Spain then went to the Pope and got a decree that anything west of a certain longitude belonged to Spain. Portugal then went to the Pope and lobbied to change the decree to move the longitude westward. Since it did not matter at all, the Pope ageed. The new line was east of Columbus's "discoveries" but did not include eastern Brazil which, of course, nobody even "knew" existed.
About eight years after Columbus, the Portugese, the best sailors and best navigators in europe, sent about 12 ships to Africa. In a dead calm, one of the ships was "lost". The other eleven ships went looking for it and, don't you know it, they "discovered" Brazil. They stayed for one week and then ten of the ships continued their trip to India and one sailed directly to Portugal and claimed Bazil on behalf of their crown.
Go figure.

Ignatz, speaking of the "discovery" of the americas, i've read somewhere that arabs and berbers from the days of El Andalus did go there before the reconquista happened, there is also the vikings who if i'm not mistaken got to the eastern coasts of Canada even before the latter.

Back to the subject.

Which could explain the Roman artifacts that were found in some Mayan tombs. I never quite understood the concept of "dicovering" a place that was full of people.