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boleroman 11-16-2005 02:01 AM

Kendo Vs Karate
 
No offense to karate, but as long as the kendoka was careful about their distance to their opponent and the karate person has nothing special to block with, my guess is the karate person would get wrecked... unless they did some sort of special training for disarming people coming at you with weapons...

Fdhwzctl 11-16-2005 03:39 AM

Sounds like bollocks to me... Tell him 'Big Scott called you a fibber...' http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif

alanamosteller 11-16-2005 06:22 AM

How do you score 'hits'? Is this with boffers?

Eltabaco 11-16-2005 06:51 AM

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How do you score 'hits'? Is this with boffers?
Nah hes talking about music chart success, hes an international superstar. Hes talking chart hits. Like number 1's.

Boripiomi 11-16-2005 07:47 AM

I have been training in Karate for over 20 years and the once or twice Sensei and I played around with it, I got clobbered.

About the only concievable instance I can imagine is if the Karateka were to close the distance before Kendoka can draw the sword. Complete surprise is a must.

FYIbiatches 11-16-2005 07:49 AM

That's why there is a kashira... http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif

toyboy 11-16-2005 08:25 AM

HAH, with my uber super ninja sword disarming skills, i could easily defeat any kendoka barehanded. You can't hit what you cant see my friends.

Ahmed Hyabusa

A.K.A. Super Uber Ninja Assasin Sword Disarming Person.

jeaccatty 11-16-2005 10:06 AM

if the receiver is another kendoka, confident about his own ability, could in theory do a nuki waza at last moment, on a not so experienced kendoka attacker.

Just for the fun of it, we practiced this at the dojo. it was posible if the receiver can read the motion and act acordingly.

side step at the last minute, to jump back and grabb their extended arms and pull and turn to make them loose their balance....as you land on top of them with their arm firmily twisted in your control.

in thoery its posible, but in reality, ...most likely you'll get bathered...

viagradiscounttt 11-16-2005 10:10 AM

First, the Karate has to keep every super quiet. I heard one Kendoka while having a dinner, he heard a spoon drops and flip out and kill the whole town. Oh, I forgot; that is the Ninja things. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif

marketheal 11-16-2005 10:24 AM

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I wonder what a kendo vs karate match would look like?http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/cheeky.gif
Kendo owns karate, but i must say i admire their practicioners strenght, agility and stamina. there is lot to learn from them.
My nidan karateka friend is so extremely strong agile and good at kata, that i must say that i think that many kendokas should train harder.
The same with wushu, they are extremely agile, although that may not be so extremely needed for kendokas, we may still be helped by it. ironically though, after the more excoerience i get, the more i get to realise that i am getting to a similiar agilness of my wushu friend. My karateka m8 is still pwning me in fitness though=)

Futfwrca 11-16-2005 02:14 PM

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No offense to karate, but as long as the kendoka was careful about their distance to their opponent and the karate person has nothing special to block with, my guess is the karate person would get wrecked... unless they did some sort of special training for disarming people coming at you with weapons...
Disarming a shinken! I'd like to see that...and no...I would not fight him with a shinai http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/tongue.gif

Inonanialry 11-16-2005 02:16 PM

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First, the Karate has to keep every super quiet. I heard one Kendoka while having a dinner, he heard a spoon drops and flip out and kill the whole town. Oh, I forgot; that is the Ninja things. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif
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smifatv 11-16-2005 03:56 PM

arent there techniques in yagyu shinkage ryu that are about disarming an opponent without using a sword?

rusculture 11-17-2005 02:22 AM

Many ryuha have these techniques, but I think they're meant as a last resort. 'Try-and-use-them-and-maybe-live-maybe-die' rather than a 'guarantee-that-you-will-die' type of thing... http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif

Crundaangerge 11-17-2005 02:37 AM

I remember a technique in Jui-Jistu we did called Yama-Arashi(sp?) against an attack with bokken. I never performed it against a kendoka at full speed so not sure what the outcome would be, but if performed correctly the kendoka could be in big problems. I would think they have something simmilar in karate.

Anyway the answer to the question is actually can you take a blow to the head with a shinai? If so, and i'm guessing you can, it would easy enough to take out a kendoka because of the distance is no more a problem.

Oh and for al the karateka's out there don't strike the mengame!!! it hurts (your hand).

0.02 euro (ka-tching)

colmedindustry 11-18-2005 02:11 PM

well the karateka could get close and, when the kendoka hits, he approches quickly from the side and grapples his hands and disarn him and then use his legs to beat the crap out of him, if he was quick enough, but i doubt it anyway http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif

dupratac 11-18-2005 03:22 PM

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well the karateka could get close and, when the kendoka hits, he approches quickly from the side and grapples his hands and disarn him and then use his legs to beat the crap out of him, if he was quick enough, but i doubt it anyway http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif
I have done wado-ryu karate but we never got any dissarming techniques.

The only thing I could think of is using nuki waza like techniques as in stepping out and kicking against the side of the men.

One big problem you could have is the kendoka using his mengane as defence but if you receive a high kick to the head your out for sure.

I'm not to sure about who would own who

lungumnentibe 11-19-2005 05:52 AM

No. If you want to learn how to disarm someone who has a sword without using a sword of your own, the best way (guaranteed) is to learn tanegashima.

glagoliska 11-19-2005 06:01 AM

...but the question is... where have you heard it?

thomaskkk 11-19-2005 06:12 AM

Hehe. I'm pulling your chain. This is Tanegashima:

http://www.arco-iris.com/George/images/tanegashima.jpg

Deals with swordsmen better than any Austin Powers' Judo Chop... http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif


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