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layevymed 10-25-2005 07:00 AM

Here are some scans of a kendo-scene in "Rurouni Kenshin". Kendo turns up in this manga quite often and, honestly, I have to admit that it was this manga which made me practice kendo myself http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/rolleyes.gif
One of the "main" characters, Myjin Yahiko, is always carrying a shinai around, and is also given kendo lessons by Kamiya Kaoru, the main female character of the series. However, the element of kendo isn't that imported in this manga, it's just used to add some depth to all the sword-slashing action http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/devious.gif

PS: Sadly the manga scans in this example are in French, and the translator somehow had the stupid idea to translate "men" in "le front"... http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...speechless.gif http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/rolleyes.gif

saraba

Kdgjhytiy 11-20-2005 07:00 AM

There is Kaze to Ken. I don't know much about it since my Japanese is not proficient as I would like it to be and I only have the third issue. I just happened to find it in a local Japanese store

ApporpSothe 12-01-2005 07:00 AM

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[*]Ryu (never seen it myself, but highly recommended by DC Pan) (set in early 1900s?)[/list]If anybody knows about others please let me know!
Ron by Murakami Motoka

Cover of 龍-RON- and しっぷうどとう (by Morita Kenji) can be found here:

http://www008.upp.so-net.ne.jp/wat/youth7.htm

statistica 12-02-2005 07:00 AM

Can't go past Musashi no ken.

For fans of comic-book samurai drama (?) - I recommend Usagi Yojimbo

www.usagiyojimbo.com

Haremporblape 12-09-2005 07:00 AM

well, a couple people and I were having a similar discussion on another thread, I think the more well known kendo (not kenjutsu) mangas are:
  • Musashi no Ken (Jodan, nito, the works)
  • 劍神長門烈 (the comic qpuppy was referring and the name of which I couldn't remember earlier)(aka DCPan's avatar ) (jodan with strong high school flavor)
  • Ippei (一平) (police kendo...more about crime fighting in the latter chapters)
  • Ryu (never seen it myself, but highly recommended by DC Pan) (set in early 1900s?)
If anybody knows about others please let me know!

spamkillerf 12-19-2005 07:00 AM

qpuppy: do you think you could post the Chinese characters for the title of the comic?

rozalinasi 12-23-2005 07:00 AM

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yeah i have a comic which is purly kendo... more or High school kendo.
It where this freshman in senior High school joined the kendo club because he admired this seniot of his, and the main story is that becasue he has a really strong right leg... he forced himself to learn Jodan without much of him mastering Chudan... anyway... at the end.. he became one of the strongers kendoka in Japan... and he managered to enter into the All Japan Kendo Championship when he is still in University.....

very good story...
but dont know what the name is in Japanese or English... it was in Chinese.. but drawn by a Japanese though.

Al
I think I read that series last night at the local manga-shop/library. it's titled (god of ken) 劍神-something (the main character's name). Spents heaps of time on the dangers of doing tsukis (or being on the receiving end thereof).

gamecasta 01-03-2006 07:00 AM

ah i read (read the pictures) that japanese comic once.
I think it was kinda funny. When the guy does tsuki on his senpai and..... oh well super drama..

carinsurancess 01-06-2006 07:00 AM

Does anyone know about this one?
http://www.mall.com.tw/more/?i=1327

I'm trying to find english translation on the internet, but I don't even know the name of this manga or its artist in english. Can anyone tell me?

AntonioMQ 01-11-2006 07:00 AM

There is lots of kendo in Kenshin!

qzgCVHex 01-12-2006 07:00 AM

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Damn guys... I can draw and I have tried drawing the Men, And it's freakin hard... I always just end up drawing the Do and Tsuki. I always end up drawing them with guns anyway...
It is obvious you either have never taken lessons in drawing and you do not have the natural talent to draw.

Uojeyak 02-01-2006 07:00 AM

(Why do I find myself always engaged in arguements lately?)

There is a great gap between "able to draw" and "wanting to draw". There aren't many Mangaka out their who likes having Kendo stories... Judo yes. Samurai yes. Ninja yes. Basketball yes. Another theory: in a Kendo match with full bogu on, all the emotions of the characters are hidden, and all the details of clothings will be the same. Can you imagine a Kendo match being represented like Ultraman vs Gorzillas? And the story goes on and on with out any emotions of the characters?

I believe CLAMP's drawing skill is far too advanced to draw something like a Kendo match.They like playing with details in their Manga; it's their style. There is no experimenting allowed in drawing Kendo. In fantasy Manga you can add feathers here and there, in basketball there are team uniforms and people's faces. Kendo?

Yes, Neon Genisis Evangelion has the most complicated Anime techniques people can ever found in a TV series. BUT please watch all the episodes. After episode 10 or so there isn't any great animation sequences. The production company Gainax went totally out of budget because they've spent far too much cells on EVA. From 11 or so onwards, you'd end up seeing the best use of Anime tricks ever. Re-runs, clip shows, still cells, still photos, still text etc. Dubbings and sounds costs much less so they keep having non-stop dialogues. The most famous one is a scene in ep. 22 where Asuka and Rei just stand in the elevator for 3 minutes of screen time. Brilliant trick. Being able to draw details in one thing, being able to animate/move the details is totally different. BTW, Crayon Shinchan, Nintama Rantaro, Guru Guru Mahozan etc. all rely heavily on plot and not the animated details.

My theory is based on the fact that Kendo (with full bogu/ in Shiai) does not interest Mangaka/Animators, not that they can't draw.

p.s. I HATE POKEMON!! I'm so glad that I does not belong to that generationhttp://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/cool.gif

rouletteroulette 02-21-2006 07:00 AM

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P...9.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Guys, is this what you're talking about?

Musashi no Ken... by Muraue Modoka
Manga printed on Weekly Sunday (Boy's Manga-zine) during 1981-85. I haven't read the whole thing yet but indeed it is hugely popular among Kendoka in that generation (who's at school already in 1981). Nice art in the 80's standard, although it's still a typical "boy's manga" story. The first chapter has musasho and his Dad (Iwate policeman) practicing Kendo in the bathtub!
Mu.Sa.Shi no Ken Chapter 1

If you've ever tried animation, or even simply line drawing, you'd notice that Kendo is particularly hard to draw. I'm not talking about the action, but the EQUIPMENT!! Can you imagine cell-animators spending time animating all the metal bars on the Men?? My theory it that this is the only reason why you can't see much Kendo in Manga & Anime (as compare to baseball!), because Mangaka and animators would avoid drawing that as much as possible. Even if Kendo took place, it'll probably be off-screen (just heard Kiai at the back). Good tricks for Anime.

However there's still occational appearance of Kendo (with full Bogu). For example, the hugely popular "Detective Conan" has an episode (I guess in vol. 31) of murder during a Kendo Taikai. Conan's Kansai friend, Henji, is the son of the Osaka PD head (i.e. some Kendo master). I've seen so many Kendo kids reading Conan before keiko! Also by the same Mangaka (Aoyama Goushou) is "YAIBA!" which is an adventure story of a kid going on samurai training... pretty entertaining when he get to meet Miyamoto Musashi (500-yr-old Yoda looking) and Sasaki Kojiro (still young and handsome). Aoyama Gousho was a Kendoka at school.

http://websunday.net/museum/no10/no10ph1.jpg
YAIBA! chapter 1

Another one worth mentioning is Ranma 1/2 (see my avatar!)... One of the characters is Kuno Takewaki, which is the team cap of their high school. But he's a jerk who's always in Gi, Hakama and Bokken... The only time he's ever in Bogu is vol. 20-21.

I still missed my Manga collection in HK...http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/cry.gif

VogsHoock 03-11-2006 07:00 AM

Theres a brief scene from "Monster City" where the hero is instructing some kids in Kendo. In the anime he uses a bokken to fight. You can see slips on it in the film Johnny Mnemonic.

Also in the manga Battle Angel Alita(Gunm in Japan) when she fights in the Motorball 3rd league. The champion of the league she takes out is decked in Kendo Bogu.


MENG

Lxbsvksl 03-29-2006 07:00 AM

Munenmuso,

The storyline you are describing sounds like "Musashi No Ken" to me. I have read the manga many times, but I did not know that there was a cartoon version!

Cwvnyfsj 05-14-2006 07:00 AM

Heh, I watched it on the TV in my room(next to my bed)...needless to say I slept with my bokuto that night.


Another one of my mates was watching it with some japanese friends and half way through it the phone rang...heh...no one wanted to pick it up.

Edisesyethisp 06-03-2006 07:00 AM

hi guys...

I found the site on about the comic book i was talking about....
The title is called "shippuudotou" by MORITA Kenji.....
The site is
http://www.bigcomics.shogakukan.co.j...ppuudotou.html

Morita actually draws a few kendo related stories.. so read it if you get the chance

hey Taiwnezboi... the comic in Chinese is (hope can be read online) _ by c i

happy searching... http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/smile.gif

Al

OrefZorremn 06-04-2006 07:00 AM

oups, sorry, here are the good urls

http://membres.lycos.fr/utena/gallery/67.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/utena/gallery/7.jpg
what is this waza?

http://membres.lycos.fr/utena/gallery/4.jpg
jodan

casinobonbone 06-08-2006 07:00 AM

akihiro-san,

Thanks.But i never knew the name of the prime character who is a boy because they dubbed it in chinese so they also changed his name but not Musashi.Based from its quality and style of animation,it's an old anime from the late 70's or early 80's,not so sure(not an authority to this).But another inteersting anime is "Yaiba the Legend of the Masterswordsman". This anime is annoying but funny.tells the story of a boy from the rural who finds his way to the city to be the best swordsman.He first used a shinai in his training and there was a bit of kendo match in full gear in the beginning of the story.Later the characters of Musashi Miyamoto(as an old pervert and his sensei), Jubei Yagyu, and Kojiro Sasaki appeared in the scene.

Seen this one?

sharpyure 07-14-2006 07:00 AM

In the anime Saint Seya the man-servant of the "purple-haired-lady-whose-name-I-can't-remember" wears bogu when they go to fight the bad guys.


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