Act on CO2
 

I'm a bit of green follower. I try to do my bit, recycle, compost, energy saving bulbs, switch the TV off instead of standby etc. You may believe it's pointless or whatever but I believed I did quite well. Turns out after doing this and perhaps because I didn't know all the info, but it turns out my family generate just a fraction above the national average. Anyway I've got a list now of what I can do to reduce my CO2 emissions.

Funny thing is I got some Walkers crisps the other day that now states on the back 'since 2005 Walkers have worked with the Carbon trust to reduce our carbon emissions'. They have a neat little logo to show CO2 with an arrow in it to convince you the number is going down. That number is 75g of CO2 was used to produce that one bag of crisps. That bag of crisps weighs 37g!

Jeez, we are so screwed now! there's no way I can give up crisps, we're doomed!

I wonder if they took human "emissions" into consideration too http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif

you got high amounts of carbon in your fart? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/smile.gif http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif

Doh!, I was thinking about methane and got them confused, what an idiot.

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Actually methane also is a major greenhouse gas. From the US EPA web site:

"Methane (CH4) is a greenhouse gas that remains in the atmosphere for approximately 9-15 years. Methane is over 20 times more effective in trapping heat in the atmosphere than carbon dioxide (CO2) over a 100-year period and is emitted from a variety of natural and human-influenced sources."

So perhaps we should all re-consider that post-keiko meal of bean burritos.

RC_Kenshi

Back in the olden days when I took organic chemistry, methane was carbon and hydrogen.

Only when I had Chili for lunch.http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo.../confused2.gif

In New Zealand, the "emissions" from the sheeps are more than half of this country's contribution to the global warming.
In France we say: "Qui ne pète ni ne rote est voué à l'explosion" (something like: "those who don't fart and belch will explode")

I think I found an old class photo of yours....

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Dan Weber

Ah yes, back in the "summer of love" when I was doing grad work at Whatsamatta U.

I am quite happy to recycle what I can but I have just had a thought about these doom mongers who harp on about global warming.

Do you remember those guys (especially in the US) who used to wander the streets wearing sandwich boards saying the end of the world is nigh. And do you remember that we would just ignore them (if they were lucky) or throw things at them ( if they were unlucky enough to be surrounded by a group of bored eight year olds). My theory is that those people who used to wear sandwich boards are the very same who are now telling us about global warming.

Same message just different spin. "if you don't recycle, we're doomed"

Just a thought!

Which probably contributed greatly to the global warming.http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/laugh.gifnyuck, nyuck, nyuck.

On that note:
Give the dozens or so things which are poised to do us in, from Super Volcanoes to random bursts of cosmic rays from space, what would the Earth do if we disappeared?

And of course there is a Top 10 list.

http://www.livescience.com/technolog..._earth_mp.html

Significant, but not so much. The big issue is the carbon that is being added to the system that otherwise would not be there. If it were not for the fossil fuels, the cows and people wouldn't be a problem.

My farts consist of recycled carbon (and hydrogen, water, hops, malted barley and other by-products of fermentation). The fact that they smell of roses and spring rain makes them all the more attractive and in fact, desirable.

Excellent list!
Vacuum energy is my favorite! http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif

We can add to this mix, a few other mass extinction events, which could happen at any time, we know almost nothing about, and have happened frequently in the recent past. Such things are;

1. Super Volcanoes
2. Magnetic Pole shift
3. Massive hyper-onset super ice age
4. Comet or Asteroid impact
5. Mass Planktonic extinction
6. Random blasts of cosmic radiation
7. Super massive Solar flares
8. Super spontaneous global warming
9. World wide incurable pathogen outbreak
10.Tectonic plate reversal
11. Global Typhoons

Which I suppose makes the times we are living in to be one of the calmest in thousands, perhaps millions of years...

..almost..too quiet....

Well my thoughts are pretty powerful I will concede but I think you flatter me greatly good sir if you think one thought of mine is helping to warm up England. And by Jove she needs warming up some days.http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/smile.gif

Well I don't remember them but have seen and made use of compelling data nonetheless. In short, I hate the doom sayers and peddlers of hysterical fear probably more than anyone, simply because they make the things I work on harder than they need to be. But in the end, reasoned scientific thinking gives one conclusion and its a bad one.

I'd start cycling to work, not kidding. We're in trouble.

Mike

i think, actually, that current theories say that global warming will cause england to get colder by something like 5-10 degrees. supposedly, the melting polar icecaps changes the salinity of the ocean, which disrupts the ocean currents that bring warmth up from the equator (the "global ocean conveyor").

"An inconvenient truth?" right?
After seeing that movie I was really in bad mood.
Quite frustrating,how slowly but surely,we are destroying our home.