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Old 10-25-2007, 07:35 PM   #1
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In school I have to do something for like a talent show something like that and I ask If I should do like a paired "kata" with a bojutsu guy So I dont know I it will be disrespectfull to Kendo and my bokuto. I will take lots of care of it in school and I wont do like flashy sword moves. So do you think its ok? and please dont tell me to ask my sensei because its embarrasing and I dont want to disturb him on this.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:38 PM   #2
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i doubt theyll even let you on school property with your bokuto
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:46 PM   #3
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they will my teacher already asked me because some people told her I practiced it.
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:12 PM   #4
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. . .and please dont tell me to ask my sensei because its embarrasing . . ..
Pretty much answered your own question, didn't you?
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:39 PM   #5
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In school I have to do something for like a talent show something like that and I ask If I should do like a paired "kata" with a bojutsu guy So I dont know I it will be disrespectfull to Kendo and my bokuto. I will take lots of care of it in school and I wont do like flashy sword moves. So do you think its ok? and please dont tell me to ask my sensei because its embarrasing and I dont want to disturb him on this.
You should ask your sensei first, and forget being embarrassed. He won't bite! And, you do not want to make up stuff with a guy who doesn't even do kendo. It will be disrespectful to the art you practice if you do that.

Get someone from your dojo to demostrate some kendo or kendo kata(If you know any well enough). But, ask your sensei before asking others to help demonstrate. If you ask your sensei and tell him it's for a school talent show, I'm sure he will help you out. Being embarrassed won't help you out. Just ask! You should stick to what you know and do it correctly or don't do a demo at all, if you ask me. Spreading information and doing a demonstration in a talent show about kendo is ok if it's done right and with permission. I know my sensei would not be pleased if I didn't tell him what I was up to, and ask if someone could demo with me if I was in your situation. He'd want to know about it. Remember that you and your partner will be representing your dojo if you do this. So, do NOT use the bojutsu guy! Use a real kendoka instead as your partner and do real kendo techniques. No fake stuff!

As for the bokuto and bringing it to school. You'll need to clear it with the Principal of your school since a bokuto is considered a weapon. Have your teacher accompany you to his/her office and help you explain the demo you wish to do, so you won't get in trouble for bringing it to school. Be sure to bring kendo information and pics and video if you have any, with you to further explain.

Hope this helps! Good luck!

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Old 10-25-2007, 11:07 PM   #6
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In school I have to do something for like a talent show something like that and I ask If I should do like a paired "kata" with a bojutsu guy So I dont know I it will be disrespectfull to Kendo and my bokuto. I will take lots of care of it in school and I wont do like flashy sword moves. So do you think its ok? and please dont tell me to ask my sensei because its embarrasing and I dont want to disturb him on this.
Unless you're skilled enough to combine both martial arts in a paired kata, in which your sensei maybe could help you.

Many people would even think you would have to keep this in the dojo and if you would do it outside then treat the area in which you perform this as such.

You'll have to talk to your sensei nomatter what.
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:29 AM   #7
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Do you really want to do Kendo no Kata (Or a made up version thereof) on the same stage as someone playing the national anthem with a Kazoo up their nose?
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Old 10-26-2007, 10:39 AM   #8
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Do you really want to do Kendo no Kata (Or a made up version thereof) on the same stage as someone playing the national anthem with a Kazoo up their nose?
Its just a talent show. Its like saying you cant wear your hakama and keiko gi on halloween.
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:20 PM   #9
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Its just a talent show. Its like saying you cant wear your hakama and keiko gi on halloween.
There are lots of people who think so. I never would wear them, at least not those I use for Kendo and Iai practise.
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:01 PM   #10
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Am I the only that thinks people might be a bit too uptight about this?

If someone who practices kendo want to do a show including swords, then I see no problem with it. It's a hell of a lot better than when the ones who have no experience what so ever does it. Youtube is my proof
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:06 PM   #11
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personally, i wouldn't be at all worried about it being disrespectful - my bokuto is a piece of wood, just a tool as far as i'm concerned. i take my kendo reasonably seriously but my take on this is that it's a piece of wood we're talking about, a tool, no more than a baseball bat or a golf club. i wouldn't abuse it, in the same way that i wouldn't hit gravel around with a golf club, but i don't look at it as having any particular intangible value either.

i'd be more concerned that kata probably won't look that impressive at a talent show as the stuff that matters is very subtle. sort of like singing scales at a talent show - it's difficult to do very well, and people who are knowledgeable will be impressed if you do it well, but your average person will think you look silly.

my 2c, anyway.

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Old 10-26-2007, 01:14 PM   #12
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There are lots of people who think so. I never would wear them, at least not those I use for Kendo and Iai practise.
Naturally, I wouldnt want to get my good stuff dirty. Ill use my backup stuff for halloween. Besides, I cant think of an easier, cheaper, and more comfortable halloween costume where it doesnt matter when i spill my libations all over my inebriated self...AND i can go to sleep comfortably in it when i pass out.
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:29 PM   #13
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Its just a talent show. Its like saying you cant wear your hakama and keiko gi on halloween.
Its not a costume. Do what ever you want but if you consider you hakama and gi a halloween costume there are other issues. The other end of the problem would be wearing a Darth Vader costume to practice. While cool, its probably not a good idea.
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:35 PM   #14
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Am I the only that thinks people might be a bit too uptight about this?
I suppose it depends largely on each person's values.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:05 PM   #15
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This issue has come up a few times in a few different iterations in my personal experience.

I think in the end, I have come to a personal decision this way.

Wearing a keikogi and hakama is for kendo. If I am representing kendo at an event, or showing kendo at an event, I should wear the hakama and keikogi. And by "kendo" i mean this in the broadest of all terms, everything from "my senseis", "the dojo/club" or "the art".

If I am not representing kendo, like in a skit or at a costume party, I should not wear the hakama and keikogi. Yes, you could consider it from the sacred angle or the "upholding" angle, but I also look at it from a practical perspective.

If I am wearing a kendo uniform, I'm not *really* just "me". What I do reflects what kendo "is", and my actions reflect my club and my senseis, and I represent my art and my training. If I'm doing sake bomb shots at a costume party with my keikogi and hakama on, at some level the "public" associates that with kendo, and I don't think that is a good idea.

Also, a friend of mine (not related to kendo) told me that "a costume is supposed to be about something you're normally *not*" after I got lazy and wore some stuff in my closet to a costume party. Hopefully, kendo and its uniform is very much I hope a part of what I want to be, so it sort of goes against the premise of a costume.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:33 PM   #16
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As for the bokuto and bringing it to school. You'll need to clear it with the Principal of your school since a bokuto is considered a weapon. Have your teacher accompany you to his/her office and help you explain the demo you wish to do, so you won't get in trouble for bringing it to school. Be sure to bring kendo information and pics and video if you have any, with you to further explain.
Remember, different countries may have different ways...
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:34 PM   #17
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Its like saying you cant wear your hakama and keiko gi on halloween.
You can't, and that's it for me in the annual Haloween hakama debate.

(actually, you can, but it's wrong)
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:55 PM   #18
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You can't, and that's it for me in the annual Haloween hakama debate.

(actually, you can, but it's wrong)
What about white hakama after labor day?
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Old 10-26-2007, 04:01 PM   #19
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What about white hakama after labor day?
Only with heels. No flats.
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Old 10-26-2007, 04:21 PM   #20
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'tards.

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