[PefeFoesk]

http://www.hofmann.org

[Assauraarguck]

i just watched a documentry on him a few weeks ago. the government makes the best drugs

[bugagasikaga]

he lived like 100 years, it seems that his Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds tecnique worked just fine...

[Petrushkaukrop]

Isn't it funny...



LSD not addictive, perceived as a bad drug because people can do stupid things whilst under its influence.....let's ban it....and yet........


cannabis, whilst not physically addictive (up to a point) is socially addictive, causes immense brain damage not to mention lung damage through its incredibly high tar rating, DOES lead to people dabbling in 'harder' drugs ( don't even think of arguing on this one) and some people in authority wish to legalise it.


The best proof that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is the fact that it never visits Earth..

[ftqwhbvxlcfop]

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cannabis, whilst not physically addictive (up to a point) is socially addictive, causes immense brain damage not to mention lung damage through its incredibly high tar rating, DOES lead to people dabbling in 'harder' drugs ( don't even think of arguing on this one) and some people in authority wish to legalise it.
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That's mostly what I think about cigarettes, but still...

[AngegepeM]

that too bad, i quite enjoyed LSD.

i hope they've got better parties where he's heading!

[dosugxxx]

Isn't it funny...

LSD not addictive, perceived as a bad drug because people can do stupid things whilst under its influence.....let's ban it....and yet........

cannabis, whilst not physically addictive (up to a point) is socially addictive, causes immense brain damage not to mention lung damage through its incredibly high tar rating, DOES lead to people dabbling in 'harder' drugs ( don't even think of arguing on this one) and some people in authority wish to legalise it.

Isn't this a ludicrous oversimplification? I think there are more than a few documented cases of mental illness arising from the use of hallucinogenic drugs.

I agree that cannabis is often overlooked as being a soft drug and therefore not harmful, but I think "immense brain damage" is going way too far.

[SOgLak]

Grass is not just grass nowadays. The move to "Super Skunk" etc is a bad thing.

It's the cause of the psychosis reported in the media. Skullcrusher.

[VipInoLo]

Isn't this a ludicrous oversimplification? I think there are more than a few documented cases of mental illness arising from the use of hallucinogenic drugs.

I agree that cannabis is often overlooked as being a soft drug and therefore not harmful, but I think "immense brain damage" is going way too far.

I just knew someone would come out with this. Thank you for being the volunteer.

There are indeed many many cases of mental illnesses being caused by hallucinogenic drugs - but that wasn't my point. My point was that LSD is NOT addictive. And it isn't. Also, from what I have read so far, LSD has not had a reputation for causing mental illness. It has an immense reputation though for causing people to do dangerous acts whilst under its influence which have often led to their deaths.


Now, here we go. I used the term "immense brain damage" quite deliberately and correctly but I suspected somebody would challenge this.

Let me elaborate why I used this. true story. I know a man very well through my work who was a fairly regular ( not excessive user of cannabis). After 15 years of use ( the first 8 years of which I had never met him) his skin had very actually turned grey. Not pink with a greyish tinge - think more along the lines of that Spitting image puppet of John Major - he was truly Grey. This, I was told by Drugs workers was caused by the cannabis after his neuro-system to such a degree that it had affected his pigmentation. Brain damage effect 1. Next, he became so addled by the drug, and he had to stop using it after 15 years because of his predicament ( too long to account here) that he had tattoed around his neck " ------cut here------ ". Odd enough, but not quite so odd that one day he decided to do just that (and he had no family history of self-harm or suicide). Oh and just for good measure, he later decided to gouge his own nipples out with a blunt instrument.

Perhaps you think he was just a headcase. I can assure you categorically he was no such thing. Or at least he wasn't before he smoked the weed. I cannot go into too much more detail because of human rights stuff.

maybe you think this was a one-off? alas, alas wish that it were but no. The people who tell you that cannabis is safer than cigarettes are just plain wrong. Cigarettes are more addictive but that is because the manufacturers put 'sweeteners' in them (Licorice and caramel tend to be popular) along with chemicals to increase their addictive effect.

Anyway, not going to get into a debate about this. You wanna kill your self or damage your self; you go right ahead.

[casinobonuscxz]

Isn't this a ludicrous oversimplification? I think there are more than a few documented cases of mental illness arising from the use of hallucinogenic drugs.

I heard that there are a few documented cases of mental illness arising from being alive and human.

I don't buy totally buy the "Drugs cause mental illness" debate. It may be true for a minority of ppl, but let's not forget, Alcohol and cigarettes, two drugs that are legal, cause way more misery, pain and death than any other drug.

Of course, they're taxed though ...


the author of this comment is neither for or against drugs of any kind other than those prescribed by his GP

[JJoon077]

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Lots of informed stuff
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Will not argue with you on that, I have my own experiences, some formal training and of course a lot of opinions, but I think that in general we are on the same side, so I'll leave it at that.

Anyway, not going to get into a debate about this. You wanna kill your self or damage your self; you go right ahead.

Well, for damaging myself I prefer seppuku. Far more romantic, and more into these fora general theme...

[Salliter]

I heard that there are a few documented cases of mental illness arising from being alive and human.

Great one. +rep.

[Gintovtosik]

I can't remember the study but the positive effects of LSD were observed in some patients that were a tad mental... funny how that doesn't make the headlines though. Dr Hoffman described it as a "vitimin for the mind"

[emorbimefed]

Anyway, not going to get into a debate about this.

I know the negative effects of cannabis very well thanks. Insinuating that LSD is somehow more responsible or safer in regard to mental health seems ludicrous to me. I'm not saying that cannabis isn't bad for you, I'm just questioning the logic of your comparison with LSD.

Regardless, people make their own choices and live with them. Sorry to hear about your aquaintance.

You wanna kill your self or damage your self; you go right ahead.

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FYI Japanese law makes very little distinction between the various types of illegal drugs, posession of a small amount of anything can land you in prison for a long time.

[VioletttaJosetta]

I really don't know what all the fuss is about...
I've been taking LSD everyday for 20 Goobersnibitz, and it has had absolutely no small pink pandas
on me.

[HomePageOEMfreeSOFTWARE]

I really don't know what all the fuss is about...
I've been taking LSD everyday for 20 Goobersnibitz, and it has had absolutely no small pink pandas
on me.

Don't look now, sempai Kenzan-san, but there's a huge, brown, furry squirrel sneaking up behind you!

[duncanalisstmp]

Don't look now, sempai Kenzan-san,

San-Pie?

Don't mind if I do!

[johnlohanmclee]

I really don't know what all the fuss is about...
I've been taking LSD everyday for 20 Goobersnibitz, and it has had absolutely no small pink pandas
on me.

And me without rep ammo to spend on you...

[JeorgeNoxeref]

well lsd can contribute to metal problems, it was originally created for mind control

[brulpcoersero]

I know the negative effects of cannabis very well thanks. Insinuating that LSD is somehow more responsible or safer in regard to mental health seems ludicrous to me. I'm not saying that cannabis isn't bad for you, I'm just questioning the logic of your comparison with LSD.

Regardless, people make their own choices and live with them. Sorry to hear about your aquaintance.



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FYI Japanese law makes very little distinction between the various types of illegal drugs, posession of a small amount of anything can land you in prison for a long time.

I did not insinuate that LSD is safer or more respsonsible than anything. I was just trying to point out that cannabis is not at all good and there are people who try to legalise it all the time - certainly here in the UK. they come up with rubbish like " just because you do cannabis doesn't mean you will move to harder drugs". This is just so bonkers a statement. of course there is no automatic leap from cannabis to opiates etc but I will also note that far more people who use opiates or crack or smack etc etc did so having tried cannabis first than just using alcohol or tobacco. It is rare indeed for people who have no predisposition to use drugs to suddenly wake up and think " hey, you know what today I think I'll give Subbies a whirl". Just doesn;t happen like that. And yet these 'people' appear who try to convince us that cannabis isn't a bad drug. People, trust me...it so is.

It sounds like Japanese law is quite sensible; decide what is and isn't legal and stick with it. No ambiguity is a good thing.

Will not argue with you on that, I have my own experiences, some formal training and of course a lot of opinions, but I think that in general we are on the same side, so I'll leave it at that.



Well, for damaging myself I prefer seppuku. Far more romantic, and more into these fora general theme...

couldn't posrep you...sorry but I tried