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Old 02-17-2009, 03:39 PM   #1
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Today, February 17th 2009, is the 200th annivesary of the death of Geronimo, the leader of the last Indian fighting force to surrender to the U.S. Government.

You may see him as a fighter for all he loved, a thorn in the side of the conquering American settlers or a bloodthirsty murderer - it makes no difference - I'm sure you'd agree with me that you wouldn't fancy facing him in bogu.

Geronimo with Zanshin

I was born on the prairies where the wind blew free and there was nothing to break the light of the sun. I was born where there were no enclosures. - Geronimo
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:14 PM   #2
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Today, February 17th 2009, is the 200th annivesary of the death of Geronimo
He died in 1909, so it's the 100th anniversary of his death.
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:54 PM   #3
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He died in 1909, so it's the 100th anniversary of his death.
They use metric years in the UK.

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Old 02-17-2009, 05:31 PM   #4
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They use metric years in the UK.

In that case, then it would be like 153.684739 years. We have to make conversions harder than they should be, ya know.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:05 PM   #5
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yeah and quanna parker is buried on the "free" side of the same cemetary and is still wanted in texas.
but still heres a toats to one of the great chiefs who gave the us calvery a run for its money
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:38 PM   #6
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Oops, a mistype. Thanks, smart-arses!

Nevertheless, I think his tenacity in the face of adversity is an example for us all.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:05 AM   #7
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They use metric years in the UK.

In that case, then it would be like 153.684739 years. We have to make conversions harder than they should be, ya know.
Yes this the metric conversion to a US year.

Corwyn, just so you know, we in Englandshireland use Imperial which is means our years are much longer than US ones.

There's a metaphor here but I'm not sure what
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:07 AM   #8
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There will be some who say the same of Osama in 100 years.
Huge nations with vast resources and technology unable to capture.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:15 AM   #9
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In that case, then it would be like 153.684739 years. We have to make conversions harder than they should be, ya know.
Yes, cause 2 3/8 in make a lot of sense also

You people and your mad measurements, centimeters I tells ya!!
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:20 AM   #10
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Oops, a mistype. Thanks, smart-arses!

Nevertheless, I think his tenacity in the face of adversity is an example for us all.
It's ok, it must be hard to see what you're typing when your head is so far up there. And then those clouds get in the way, especially in England...

Corwyn, just so you know, we in Englandshireland use Imperial which is means our years are much longer than US ones.
No, no, your years aren't any longer than ours. The years just FEEL interminable when you live in a place like Englandshireland.


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Old 02-18-2009, 04:30 AM   #11
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There will be some who say the same of Osama in 100 years.
Huge nations with vast resources and technology unable to capture.
Conincidentally, the same advanced and well-equipped nation that was thwarted by a small band of native 'savages'.

Hey Corwyn, you'd love this place. The weather sucks but the fish & chips are awesome and we all speak a quaint variant of your American tongue...
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:31 AM   #12
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No, no, your years aren't any longer than ours. The years just FEEL interminable when you live in a place like Englandshireland.
"Officially" Ireland is metric, ahem, "officially",

Is not a bad place when you consider the Guiness and beautiful women
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:43 AM   #13
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Hey Corwyn, you'd love this place. The weather sucks but the fish & chips are awesome and we all speak a quaint variant of your American tongue...
Actually, I've been there once, several years ago. Took me 4 days to figure out your coin system, but yes, the fish and chips were quite good, as were the pints (not that I drink very much...I think I had a grand total of 3 pints in my 2 weeks there) and the ginger beer. And it was even a nice sunny day for my visit to Hampton Court Palace.

And the country is also responsible for such lovelies as Keira Knightley, Kate Beckinsale, Harry Jones, Kate Winslet...

One downside is that I'd end up training under you, Sats, Chidokan...and then I'd get the promised arse-kickings

As for the American tongue, my visit to the Tower of London began with our Yeoman Warder guide asking us, "How many of you are visiting from America?...Are you here on holiday, or are you here to learn the language?"
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:48 AM   #14
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As for the American tongue, my visit to the Tower of London began with our Yeoman Warder guide asking us, "How many of you are visiting from America?...Are you here on holiday, or are you here to learn the language?"
Hehe superb. He wasn't making a joke, though...
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:55 AM   #15
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Hehe superb. He wasn't making a joke, though...
Of course, then there was the cab driver who demanded, "Wareya'edded?"

"Excuse me?"

"Wareya'edded?"



Then my father came to my rescue and told him where we were headed.
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Old 02-18-2009, 08:28 AM   #16
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Of course, then there was the cab driver who demanded, "Wareya'edded?"

"Excuse me?"

"Wareya'edded?"



Then my father came to my rescue and told him where we were headed.
You live in Worcester MA, which is named after Worcester, Worcestershire (pronounced woostersheer NOT war-ses-ter-shire!!!); and you have a Sturbridge in MA (I live in Stourbridge UK), as well as Manchester etc etc.

It's also weird that the "Pilgrim Fathers" (or invading b*stards as the Native Americans called them!!) left from Plymouth and landed in Plymouth!! What a coincidence!

Also the War of American Independence (or Revolution) was started because they wanted to be represented in Parliament due to taxation (something we are STILL waiting for here! ); and thought of themselves, in the majority as English colonists. (Watch the HBO "John Adams" much better than the tinsel covered version of history you guys normally get!!!)

Having said all the above I have visited the USA twice (Boston and Chicago) and found nearly all of people to be very welcoming . . . . almost as if we have a lot in common; not just the language.
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:20 AM   #17
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As for the American tongue, my visit to the Tower of London began with our Yeoman Warder guide asking us, "How many of you are visiting from America?...Are you here on holiday, or are you here to learn the language?"
+rep to the Yeoman
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Old 02-19-2009, 05:27 AM   #18
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Y... invading b*stards as the Native Americans called them...
Woohoo,I was just waiting where to put this picture...

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Old 02-19-2009, 06:29 AM   #19
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You live in Worcester MA, which is named after Worcester, Worcestershire (pronounced woostersheer NOT war-ses-ter-shire!!!);
That's pretty much how it's pronounced in Massachusetts, as well.

Also the War of American Independence (or Revolution) was started because they wanted to be represented in Parliament due to taxation (something we are STILL waiting for here! ); and thought of themselves, in the majority as English colonists. (Watch the HBO "John Adams" much better than the tinsel covered version of history you guys normally get!!!) "No taxation without representation" has been a part of every bit of Colonial American history that I've been exposed to.

An interesting factoid about American English vs. British English. It is generally thought that British English is the "older" version, but in fact American English contains many features of 15th and 16th century English now gone or uncommon in British English. Among these are words like "gotten" and "fall" (for the season), and the short "a" in "bath", "path", etc.

Linky.
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:12 AM   #20
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"No taxation without representation" has been a part of every bit of Colonial American history that I've been exposed to.
Sorry the point I was trying to make was they (mainly) thought of themselves as English colonists not Americans.

The fact they were p*ssed off at paying taxes (who isn't!!) when they had no representation is well documented.

It's also interesting how they was a real "fight" (well, very heated debates) to get all the original 13 states to agree to declaring themselves independant; and NY state abstained I believe? So only 12 votes for; and one abstention! (that's why the "Stars and Stripes" has 13 stripes for non-USA people - the original 13 USA states)

It's just whenever it is mentioned in most Hollywood films it sounds like all just happily voted, then had a war with the "evil British".

Which is probably why most villians in Hollywood films are played by British actors! (??)
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