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Old 05-14-2010, 04:22 AM   #21
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Re-read and saw aikido dojo, not kendo dojo. I think the point still stands. Apologies.
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Old 05-14-2010, 09:05 AM   #22
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What do you do when someone violates your personal space with a seemingly innocent manner. At first glance it being
insignificant, but later upon reflection it is a serious cause of concern. How do you react when the mediating
authority figure is callus to your concern. And you are constraint to being polite and non-offensive as the environment dictates.
Unless I misread (quite possible), her teacher (aka "the mediating authority figure") isn't being callous of her concern, because she's never voiced it. Hard to be insensitive to someones issues if you don't know they've got 'em.

The dog thing is a big indicator that the teacher runs a less strict dojo, at least in some ways (not my place to call it, but the dog thing seems like a valid indicator). Nothing wrong with giving him (the teacher) the benefit of the doubt though: it could be that he decided to allow the dog as long as no one brings it up as an issue.

I would be surprised if other people in your dojo don't have a problem with it, but don't feel comfortable bringing it up. Dogs track in so much... interesting... stuff. And a dojo being a "barefoot place..." Ewww.

I don't think it's reasonable to address the dog's owner directly. It's not your establishment, you're not his teacher. But I'd definitely bring it up with the teacher.

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Old 05-14-2010, 09:22 AM   #23
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A dog, as well as other animal should be treated the same based on their behaviour. If it's disturbing you and others, you should tell the owner, if he ignoring you then you should tell the sensei. Afterall, I don't think it's impolite to politely ask him not to let his dog go to certain places in the dojo but you have clearly explain the reason behind your request. It'll be better if you're not alone when telling him this, ask one of your friend, tell him with smiling, then he should understand. If not, you can discuss it with your sensei.
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Old 05-14-2010, 06:16 PM   #24
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By talking to the dogs owner first, you're giving him a chance to save face. At that point, he can decide to do something on his own terms, without being _told what to do_ by someone else. Chances are good this is the best way to resolve a conflict amicably, if the dude is halfway reasonable. The important thing is to just be respectful when you talk to him. Then if it goes nowhere, when you talk to sensei you can be all "Well, you know, I really hoped I wouldn't have to bother you with something like this, but do you think you could say something to so-and-so about the dog?"

If you don't think you can ask in a respectful manner, then maybe it is better to go to a sempai or the sensei or whatever your school calls the next person over you.


By the way, was the dog regularly attending classes before you were? Maybe he is your sempai...? XD
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Old 05-14-2010, 07:24 PM   #25
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By the way, was the dog regularly attending classes before you were? Maybe he is your sempai...? XD[/QUOTE]

LOL funny!!!! SEMPIA!!!...............haha
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Old 05-15-2010, 02:19 AM   #26
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To be clear, are we talking 2-legged or 4 legged dog?
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Old 05-15-2010, 04:50 AM   #27
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Taser him bro!
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:28 AM   #28
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Maybe suggest the dog to stay in a kennel?

(http://www.puppy-training-solutions....-dog-homes.jpg)

although it's hard to train them if they are no longer puppies.

I assume the dog owner cannot leave him alone at home and that's why he brings him? In a kennel the dog can still come but won't walk around and the hair won't travel either.

btw I think the people with dog allergies should speak up o__O Seeing how it is more people bothered by it than just you, first talk to the other people and then talk to the owner and ask if he could maybe keep the dog confined.
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:54 AM   #29
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Going from the assumption that taking your pet to the dojo is correct ettiquette where you practise.

If you take your pet with you the this pet should listen and stay.

A pet has no place on the dojo floor itself. I think it would be gross to have an animal who also walk outside on the dojo floor leaving hairs all over the place. This also could leave hairs on your gi.

So the only choices you really have alre already mentioned.

Take it up with the owner in the most comfortable way. You could ask the owner if you could have a chat so the owner wouldn't lose face to other dojo members. If this won't work you should goto the sensei as i personally think it would be rather rude and selfish for the dog owner to do nothing with the concern you brought to his attention.

If you do not want to confront the dog owner then the other option would be to look for a pet free dojo.

Keep one thing in mind though. We do matrial arts to confront ourselves with new challenges to learn to deal with them in the best possible ways for ourselves.
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