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liontutuxx 01-13-2010 10:49 PM

Fancy Bogus
 
Just came to my mind...

How come the high level kendokas of "the all japan" don't use fancy bogus ?

I know it's retarded but I want to hear your thoughts on it

jesyflowers 01-14-2010 12:39 AM

I'd say because fancy bogu serves absolutely no purpose beyond a certain point. Really only 3 things you can change that has any impact on the protection bogu provides- stitching, material and thickness. Once those are optimal nothing else really matters

anfuckinggs 01-14-2010 12:44 AM

Bogu is one of those loan words which, if you add an s to it, it becomes a completely different English word.

brilkyPlayday 01-14-2010 01:11 AM

I guess it depends on your definition of 'fancy'...

if you mean 'flashy' as in loud colours etc. Both Yoneya and Kiwada have coloured do-dai... and Shodai has some pretty funky bogu too... Also, Eiga has one of my favourite Do mune designs in his possesion...

However, if you mean fancy as in expensive, then there is plenty of that...

To be honest overtly 'flashy' isn't really fashionable at the moment... Though it isn't unheard of... last week I saw probably the worst looking bogu I have ever seen in my life, and it was in use by a 6th dan! I guess, in my opinion, 'fancy' has a different meaning at the minute, people tend to prefer small, less noticible details to be 'fancy' and/or stand out from the crowd.

Jeffery 01-14-2010 04:41 AM

"Deru kui wa utareru" as my sensei keeps reminding me.

"The nail that raises its head , gets hammered"

ahagotyou 01-14-2010 05:18 AM

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How come the high level kendokas of "the all japan" don't use fancy bogus?
If you looked closely, I bet that you will see some very high quality sets.

giturbewan 01-14-2010 06:10 AM

I am assuming by 'fancy' you mean flashy. The reason most higher ranked kendoka don't use real flashy kendogu is that they prefer to let their kendo do the talking. Most of them have high quality kendogu, just not flashy (although there are certainly some higher ranked kendoka that do have somewhat flashy kendogu such as brightly colored do, white kendogu, etc). I have always just assumed that it is due to being humble as opposed to being in your face about rank and skill.

Nothatspecial 01-14-2010 06:18 AM

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How come the high level kendokas of "the all japan" don't use fancy bogus ?
Who is to say they don't, the set you see in the taikai is likely their tournament set, they probably also have a set for testing, and a set at each dojo they practice at, a set to travel with, a set for special guests... etc.

pesty4077 01-14-2010 06:24 AM

As it was pointed out in the above posts, I don't think they're flashy but expensive and very well made. Someone told me that this year some of the Japanese team got their bogu from Shobudo, their hand stitched sets start at 4k, I imagine the ones the team members were wearing were well over 10k.

CarrieSexy 01-14-2010 07:05 AM

Most of high ranking are policemen, how can they afford such expensive bogu?

TOOGUEITEME 01-14-2010 07:09 AM

I'm just courious:
Are there any pictures of fancy bogu with coloured do or else in the net? I googled it but I didn't succed. I saw some photos of for example green or sort of dotted do on a store's page but I've never seen one of them worn.

Oppofeescom 01-14-2010 07:39 AM

Browse around here....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/oroshi/.../in/pool-kendo

Uojeyak 01-14-2010 08:15 AM

wow this do is real art!
thank you!!!
I only don't see the sense behind having a pretty do cause it just gets hit all the time but why not...
And you'll never have problems with finding out witch do's yours or where your mate is fighting in the moment when he's got a do like this on a tournament http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/smile.gif

55Beaphable 01-14-2010 11:17 AM

The fact that Mr Taniguchi is wearing a two sizes too big men and holding the shinai like he is strangling a chicken, gives a fairly good steer on who wears fancy bogu.

mashabox 01-14-2010 12:07 PM

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Most of high ranking are policemen, how can they afford such expensive bogu?
The Japanese Team members, and really high grade policemen like Tokuren members may have their Kendo material paid/help I guess... I don't know. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/normal.gif

dhrishiasv 01-14-2010 12:27 PM

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The fact that Mr Taniguchi is wearing a two sizes too big men and holding the shinai like he is strangling a chicken, gives a fairly good steer on who wears fancy bogu.
WOW, kinda harsh don't you think?

Why do you think the men is two sizes too big? The men tare looks OK, though the men does look a little deep front-to-back wise....

As for the grip, static pictures don't tell a whole lot, as he could be in a transition of some sort.

merloermfgj 01-14-2010 12:32 PM

Well speaking of "fancy"...Warning! You may want to wash your eyes with soap afterwards:
If you dont buy this hakama, al-Qaida will win.

https://www.ninjagym.com/martialarts.../1/_/1_6_2.jpg

texbrease 01-14-2010 01:37 PM

Maybe they prefer to let their kendo speak rather than their kendo toys.

lopesmili 01-14-2010 01:44 PM

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The fact that Mr Taniguchi is wearing a two sizes too big men and holding the shinai like he is strangling a chicken, gives a fairly good steer on who wears fancy bogu.
Wow, you registered just to anonymously insult someone? If you're a regular who made a dummy account, well, I don't even know where to begin.

Let's get some facts straight:

1. In that photo he is in a transition after being motodachi for kirikaeshi.
2. I have photos of the back of his head on this day and the men is not too big.
3. In my experience he usually wears quite plain bogu.
4. He's a rather good kyoshi nanadan.
5. You are an idiot.

Ok, carry on.

bely832new 01-14-2010 02:08 PM

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He's a rather good kyoshi nanadan.
I still don't like his doh. As an aside, what does "hatsugeiko" mean?


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