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Old 10-16-2011, 04:25 PM   #21
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And what of it?
I don't know, you tell us, you're the one with the fantasy.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:26 PM   #22
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There were none played in the US feed, and it sounds like there was none played for you, either. Nothing more than fantasy, then.
Ted Kravitz would be the BBC pit lane presenter...
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:26 PM   #23
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You did presume nothing was said about the pitstop decison on the BBC feed though even when it was stated there had been.
I didn't "presume" anything. I said you have no idea of what was said unless you heard the transmissions.

So where are the transmissions? Why did they not have them on the US feed. Sounds like they didn't have them on the BBC feed, either.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:29 PM   #24
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I didn't "presume" anything. I said you have no idea of what was said unless you heard the transmissions.

So where are the transmissions? Why did they not have them on the US feed. Sounds like they didn't have them on the BBC feed, either.
Ted Kravitz mentioned it from the pitlane report. The transmissions were not made public on the coverage but his freedom around the pitlane means he gets the information direct from the horses mouth.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:30 PM   #25
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Oh good grief.

Webber, lord bless him, is a superb racing driver who on his day is plenty capable of getting pole and winning races. However, the uncomfortable truth for his supporters (myself included) is that Vettel is simply... better.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:30 PM   #26
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Ted Kravitz mentioned it from the pitlane report. The transmissions were not made public on the coverage but his freedom around the pitlane means he gets the information direct from the horses mouth.
He can't even hear webber from the pitlane, genius,
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:35 PM   #27
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He can't even hear webber from the pitlane, genius,
He can approach the Red Bull guys on the pit wall though and ask what happened. He can also hear half a conversation if he's in the right place. Kravitz isn't usually a guy who makes things up for fun.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:37 PM   #28
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Guys the fact is that the decision, in hindsight or not, was wrong. And Webber's silence at the end of the race was deafening.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:39 PM   #29
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He can approach the Red Bull guys on the pit wall though and ask what happened. He can also hear half a conversation if he's in the right place. Kravitz isn't usually a guy who makes things up for fun.
If so, surely there will be after-race inquiries made of webber and such, Let's hear what webber has to say about it. ?If nothing is said about it, then clearly teddie boy is making crap up or just hearing what he wants to hear.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:40 PM   #30
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Guys the fact is that the decision, in hindsight or not, was wrong. And Webber's silence at the end of the race was deafening.
He needed the jump on Lewis through the pit stop and he was certainly annoyed the team got it wrong. He couldn't get past Lewis when he was in the faster car which must also be playing on his mind.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:42 PM   #31
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If so, surely there will be after-race inquiries made of webber and such, Let's hear what webber has to say about it. ?If nothing is said about it, then clearly teddie boy is making crap up or just hearing what he wants to hear.
I very much doubt Webber will make public his conversations with the team other than his dismay at them not listening to him. Ted is a respectable guy and I would be inclined to take what he has reported at face value rather than believeing conspiracy theories on F1 threads I must admit.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:43 PM   #32
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At the PC Mark expressed that it was the wrong decision to pit him the same lap as Lewis.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:44 PM   #33
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He needed the jump on Lewis through the pit stop and he was certainly annoyed the team got it wrong. He couldn't get past Lewis when he was in the faster car which must also be playing on his mind.
Looked like the RBR didn't have enough traction in the slow corners and luckily he couldn't use the DRS (which I despise anyway).
Webber's only chance was before the last pit stop and he had the pace to go for it at that point.

I guess they tried the same strategy they used for Vettel around mid season when they pitted him in the last lap at the same time with his opposition and they managed to pull it off. Stupid and very risky strategy that will not work every time.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:45 PM   #34
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At the PC Mark expressed that it was the wrong decision to pit him the same lap as Lewis.
And for once I fully agree with him.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:49 PM   #35
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I very much doubt Webber will make public his conversations with the team other than his dismay at them not listening to him. Ted is a respectable guy and I would be inclined to take what he has reported at face value rather than believeing conspiracy theories on F1 threads I must admit.
Ya, webber never makes public his issues within the team. ROFLMAO.


The reality is, teddie numbnutz is a guy paid to find/look for controversy. No one has presented the transmissions and none has even specifically recounted what teddie actually said. Webber has yet to mention anything about it being the teams call to pull him in.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:52 PM   #36
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Webber just said on the BBC forum that he was confused by the decision to bring him in because the tyres were still good.

His tyres might have been good, but they wouldn't have been as good as Hamiltons new tyres.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:53 PM   #37
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Ya, webber never makes public his issues within the team. ROFLMAO.


The reality is, teddie numbnutz is a guy paid to find/look for controversy. No one has presented the transmissions and none has even specifically recounted what teddie actually said. Webber has yet to mention anything about it being the teams call to pull him in.
Well there we are then.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:54 PM   #38
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Webber just said on the BBC forum that he was confused by the decision to bring him in because the tyres were still good.

His tyres might have been good, but they wouldn't have been as good as Hamiltons new tyres.
That's interesting you say that because one of the speed TV guys mentioned something about odd wear patterns on one of webber's rear tires shortly before he was pulled in.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:57 PM   #39
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That's interesting you say that because one of the speed TV guys mentioned something about odd wear patterns on one of webber's rear tires shortly before he was pulled in.
Perhaps he was lying like Ted? He works for a TV company afterall and was probably keen to find controversy.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:58 PM   #40
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That's interesting you say that because one of the speed TV guys mentioned something about odd wear patterns on one of webber's rear tires shortly before he was pulled in.
So basically, you have gone from "I know more than TV guys, they are all BS and paid to find controversy" to "TV guys know more than the driver himself"...

You need some trolling lessons, bro.
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