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cigattIcTot 12-11-2009 02:20 AM

New points scheme for 2010
 
A new scoring system was put forward which will award 25 points to each race winner, 20 for second place, 15 for third and 10 for fourth, before descending 8-6-5-3-2-1 for fifth through 10th positions. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80521

Seems like a drastic change but does reward winners more. With 26 cars there's more for the new guys to scrap over too.

Uzezqelj 12-11-2009 02:30 AM

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80521

Seems like a drastic change but does reward winners more. With 26 cars there's more for the new guys to scrap over too.
It doesn't really reward winners more. 25 points is 2.5 times 10 points. 20 points is 2.5 times 8 points. 15 points is 2.5 times 6 points. When you get to 4th, 5th and 6th these are merely doubled. So the top three are reward more compared to others but the gap between the top three points is proportionally the same.

Personally I like the idea, it will make it a little easier for smaller teams to get on the scoreboard but they will still have to work very hard for it.

isogeople 12-11-2009 02:42 AM

Is this for real? Change it all again???

defenderfors 12-11-2009 03:26 AM

makes sense, given the expanded grid, to award some points further down the order, and it sure beats the daft medals idea.

before anyone asks, it wouldn't have changed the outcome of 2009, the only changes would be Trulli would beat Rosberg to 7th, Glock beats Alonso to 9th, Heidfield and Kubica tie for 13th and Nakajima and Piquet both get points (piquet only one point)

kiosokkn 12-11-2009 04:21 AM

My pic ... 1st 20, 2nd 17, 3rd 15, 4th 10, 5th 8, 6th 6, 7th, 4, 8th 3, 9th 2, 10th 1

Rewards the winner and the podium

Turbo-ip 12-11-2009 04:32 AM

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Is this for real? Change it all again???
and again, and again, and again http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...lies/frown.gif I've lost count of the tweaks that have been done to the points system

makemoneyonli 12-11-2009 04:35 AM

I don't love it but it's an awful lot better than Bernie's idea that he tried to impose on everyone. If there actually are 26 cars throughout the season then it would make more sense to give out top 10 points. Back when there used to be 26 cars, half of them would break down. That hardly ever happens now.

55TRATTERENRY 12-11-2009 05:26 AM

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makes sense, given the expanded grid,
Expanded Grid?

The last time we actually had the full 26 cars on the grid was Monaco 1995, after the demise of Simtek. Grids were limited to 26 back in 1976, whilst the 107% rule was introduced in 1996.
I don't understand why points are being extended, when the number of cars is only just back to a "normal" grid.

If anything there will probably some sort of calculation around the points system to link it to TV money, and linking it to the number of points the teams score. That way because everything has been skewed upwards, the "bigger" teams are likely to get a bigger slice of the pie.

Winning drivers and teams will always end up on top (except for one year when Prost was penalised for being more consistent than Senna), and I think that this is a farce.

fount_pirat 12-11-2009 05:31 AM

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I don't understand why points are being extended, when the number of cars is only just back to a "normal" grid.
Makes for better marketing and show.

fruttomma 12-11-2009 05:33 AM

Too extreme a jump in my view, you may as well rip up Schumacher's record of 1369 if they introduce that seeing champions would score in excess of 300 points to win the title

Id go with this, it would fit in with Bernie's vision of rewarding race winners more

1st - 15
2nd - 10
3rd - 8
4th - 7
5th - 6
6th - 5
7th - 4
8th - 3
9th - 2
10th - 1

55TRATTERENRY 12-11-2009 05:51 AM

If I was grand poo-bah I would have awarded points:
10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 with 1 point for getting pole and 1 point for leading a lap of the race at some point.

Theariwinna 12-11-2009 06:10 AM

Dumb idea

Points should be earnt especially now that the cars are so close the midfield is tighter than ever. The present top 8 needed refining somewhat.

fruttomma 12-11-2009 06:24 AM

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Dumb idea

Points should be earnt especially now that the cars are so close the midfield is tighter than ever. The present top 8 needed refining somewhat.
Aye, awarding 1 point less for 2nd place probably would have been enough

Faumpiggueria 12-11-2009 07:02 AM

Anyone familiar with the phrase 'If it aint broke, don't fix it'....
There are far too many silly and pointless changes happening year in year out these days in F1 and it isn't helping.

mnhloot 12-11-2009 07:06 AM

Leave it at top 8, increase difference between 1st and 2nd. That's all they need to do IMO.

trilochana.nejman 12-11-2009 07:14 AM

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Makes for better marketing and show.
I agree..!

exeftWabreava 12-11-2009 08:04 AM

I dont even care anymore - it looks like NASCAR and that turns me OFF.

Its bad enough that they now have concerts and people are referring to f1 as "entertainment". Whats next? Heats with reverse grids?!!

Its the dumbing down of motor racing because society in general is a lot more pathetic and stupid than years ago.

Excuse me while I go and vomit!

irrascaft 12-11-2009 08:13 AM

a tweek yes, but this drastic apprach is too much IMO

I think the best would be as follows:

1 - 18
2 - 14
3 - 11
4 - 8
5 - 6
6 - 5
7 - 4
8 - 3
9 - 2
10 - 1

no points for pole or fastest lap. the reward of pole position is starting first on the grid. and with low fuel qualy there is no need for it. It would have been an incentive in these past few years q3 qualy sessions, but not any more.

paydayus 12-11-2009 10:12 AM

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before anyone asks, it wouldn't have changed the outcome of 2009, the only changes would be Trulli would beat Rosberg to 7th, Glock beats Alonso to 9th, Heidfield and Kubica tie for 13th and Nakajima and Piquet both get points (piquet only one point)
Since you went thru the trouble of calculating it, would you mind posting the entire list here too? I'd like to see how it looks (and yes, I am too lazy to do it myself!) http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...es/biggrin.gif

That said, would it have changed any of the 1-pointer seasons 2007 and 2008?

legal-advicer 12-11-2009 12:31 PM

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Too extreme a jump in my view, you may as well rip up Schumacher's record of 1369 if they introduce that seeing champions would score in excess of 300 points to win the title

Id go with this, it would fit in with Bernie's vision of rewarding race winners more

1st - 15
2nd - 10
3rd - 8
4th - 7
5th - 6
6th - 5
7th - 4
8th - 3
9th - 2
10th - 1
I agree with your system.


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