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Old 07-14-2009, 03:56 AM   #1
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Default Niki Blasts Lewis
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/130720...k-request.html One of Briton Hamilton's bosses, however, does not agree. Norbert Haug, competition chief for the team's engine partner Mercedes, said Hamilton's radio call was ‘in order’.

Hamilton finished the race 18th and it was later discovered that the MP4-24 suffered damaged to the upper floor and brake duct making progress from the back of the pack impossible.

Isn't Lauda being a little sensational, and over-critical?
Lewis simply asked a question. It's not his decesion to make, but with the engine and gearbox rules,
coupled with the fact that the macs seem to be comming up with some solutions.
If it was terminal aero damage why waste them as Mac could move up in the WCC standings/money if things come right!
Perhaps the team was thinking that the car would come right later in the race?
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:24 AM   #2
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I don't think so - we spend a lot of money to come and see the elite drive. So if the wheels are still on it - drive it. Can you even imagine GV calling in saying hey should I park. If my driver parked I would probably have to buy him a pink and baby blue drivers suit.
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:39 AM   #3
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Seeing that everything in the team's travel and preparations boils down to the couple hours of race day, that there is a testing ban in place, and that sponsors pay good money to have their logos seen by the public and TV audience, it is indeed a silly idea to just park a car that's in perfectly good running order. Do your job... collect data, let the fans see you, whether they love or hate you, and give the sponsors their due.

The Superrat always speaks his mind openly, and I admire him for that. He usually says it exactly how it is, without bull. Which is really rare in F1 circles. We need more of that.
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:42 AM   #4
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Isn't Lauda being a little sensational, and over-critical?
Lewis simply asked a question. It's not his decesion to make, but with the engine and gearbox rules,
coupled with the fact that the macs seem to be comming up with some solutions.
Lauda is talking out of his rear side more often than not (like 90 t0 10 ratio).
I was also amazed by the McLaren decision to keep him out because it may rain later all this while he was 1 lap down on half the field and didn't have race pace.

Actually for once I thought Lewis was more intelligent than his whole team.
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:43 AM   #5
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Seeing that everything in the team's travel and preparations boils down to the couple hours of race day, that there is a testing ban in place, and that sponsors pay good money to have their logos seen by the public and TV audience, it is indeed a silly idea to just park a car that's in perfectly good running order. Do your job... collect data, let the fans see you, whether they love or hate you, and give the sponsors their due.

The Superrat always speaks his mind openly, and I admire him for that. He usually says it exactly how it is, without bull. Which is really rare in F1 circles. We need more of that.
We'll see what the rat says when the McLaren team runs out of engines and have to take 10 place grid penalties.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:19 AM   #6
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Do we not have rules that prevent teams from parking the car to save the engine? Thinking back to Honda in 2005, they got penelised for doing it.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:30 AM   #7
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Do we not have rules that prevent teams from parking the car to save the engine? Thinking back to Honda in 2005, they got penelised for doing it.
When they have a broken floor and damaged brake ducts?!

Also the Hondas back in 2005 didn't retire in order to save the engines. They retired because back then you had the right to change your engine if you didn't finish the race. And no they weren't punished for it, but the rules were changed.


I can't believe it, I'm defending Lewis Hamilton.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:38 AM   #8
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I can't believe it, I'm defending Lewis Hamilton.
Same sentiments here Bro
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:47 AM   #9
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me defending lewis what next

in the old days of racing it must be remembered the they had
1 or more engines for free practice
1 engine for qualifying
1 engine for the race
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Old 07-14-2009, 06:29 AM   #10
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Same sentiments here Bro
that probably because you are too young to have ever seen GV
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:10 AM   #11
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that probably because you are too young to have ever seen GV
Any Lack of recollection about GV definitely has something to do with my age, for sure.
I graduated from college one year before his first F1 Race.
My memory is not quit as keen as it used to be, but that is normal as you pass through mid-life.
(And I sure it's not likely to improve)

I just don't see why NL who I admire immensely for his courage, and his skill as a driver
(especially being the Ferrari honk that I am)
was so critical about something so non-news-worthy
As the Brits say, I think he has created a tempest in a teapot.
Did you read the article?
LH simply made an inquiry! Nothing to go ballistic about IMHO
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:18 AM   #12
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Niki lauda is 100% correct. Naturally the Hamilton adoration rank and file will disagree.

Who is Niki Lauda?
He brought Ferrari from obsurity back into its championship winning ways. He was the driver that changed f1 because he was the first to approach racing scientifically and build a team around him to focus on the championship.

He won 2 championship titles with Ferrari.

He was not comfortably weened like a baby as was Hamilton - Niki came up the hard way, for despite coming from a wealthy family, they never financed his racing. That risk he took based on his iron self-confidence.

And how strong is he?
He is a driver that came back from death's door, that awful August 1, when he crashed and burned at the real Nurburgring - at Bergwerk.

When the priest was giving him the Last Rites, Lauda reflected afterwards that he wanted to punch the priests jaw, because he, Lauda, was NOT gping die.

Six weeks later, this brave and courageous man, finished 4th at the Italian Grand Prix. When he removed his helmet, his balaclava was soaked red.

For anyone to disparage the comments of Lauda, who incidentally has always been positive and encouraged Hamilton, they deserve nothing but antipathy and contempt from those of us who actually know who Niki Lauda is and have the respect for him that he deserves.

Any racing driver that wants to give up during a grand prix, unless there are exceptional circumstances, is a disgrace to f1.

But then we are all aware, that Lewis Hamilton, is a child, a whimp, and often makes mistakes on the race track.

Compared to tough drivers like Lauda, Webber and Button, he is an embarassment to motor racing.

That he got his "daddy" to whimp him out of the triathlon challenge HE proposed to Jenson Button 2008, demonstrates just wat a pathetic little man-child "lewith" is.
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:59 AM   #13
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Niki lauda is 100% correct. Naturally the Hamilton adoration rank and file will disagree.

Who is Niki Lauda?
He brought Ferrari from obsurity back into its championship winning ways. He was the driver that changed f1 because he was the first to approach racing scientifically and build a team around him to focus on the championship.

He won 2 championship titles with Ferrari.

He was not comfortably weened like a baby as was Hamilton - Niki came up the hard way, for despite coming from a wealthy family, they never financed his racing. That risk he took based on his iron self-confidence.

And how strong is he?
He is a driver that came back from death's door, that awful August 1, when he crashed and burned at the real Nurburgring - at Bergwerk.

When the priest was giving him the Last Rites, Lauda reflected afterwards that he wanted to punch the priests jaw, because he, Lauda, was NOT gping die.

Six weeks later, this brave and courageous man, finished 4th at the Italian Grand Prix. When he removed his helmet, his balaclava was soaked red.

For anyone to disparage the comments of Lauda, who incidentally has always been positive and encouraged Hamilton, they deserve nothing but antipathy and contempt from those of us who actually know who Niki Lauda is and have the respect for him that he deserves.

Any racing driver that wants to give up during a grand prix, unless there are exceptional circumstances, is a disgrace to f1.

But then we are all aware, that Lewis Hamilton, is a child, a whimp, and often makes mistakes on the race track.

Compared to tough drivers like Lauda, Webber and Button, he is an embarassment to motor racing.

That he got his "daddy" to whimp him out of the triathlon challenge HE proposed to Jenson Button 2008, demonstrates just wat a pathetic little man-child "lewith" is.
I admire the hell out of Niki, and am well aware of his accomplishments. I remember them well.
I think he has blown this out of proportion and is falling into the same trap as the rest of the tabloid media!
Lewis has acted very immature in his brief career I'm usually one of the first to point it out
Niki Got a new engine before every race.
The teams no longer have that luxury. Go ahead and wax nostalgic. I do it a lot myself.
I was born in the early '50's but I live in the 21st Century. I wish a lot of things were like they used to be.
"But that's not how the song goes" (metaphorically speaking of course) I hold certain truths to be self evident]
with today’s rules with limited engines I wouldn't have blamed the team for calling him in. In fact I think it would be rather clever.
Niki misrepresented LH's (who I'm no fan of) intentions.
Lewis has a radio and he used it! BFD! Your delirious
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:40 AM   #14
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St D: And then he parked a working car at Fuji and handed the WDC to James Hunt.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:37 AM   #15
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I just don't see why NL who I admire immensely for his courage, and his skill as a driver
(especially being the Ferrari honk that I am)
was so critical about something so non-news-worthy
As the Brits say, I think he has created a tempest in a teapot.
Did you read the article?
LH simply made an inquiry! Nothing to go ballistic about IMHO
I admired Niki greatly for his courage as a driver, no question. But I also remember that he pulled out of a race later on because he considered the conditions were too dangerous.

Now, on a different vein, I have to say that Lewis was thinking ahead to the next race, and if he saved his engine, he would have more chance of putting in a more aggresive effort (enginewise) in Hungary.

Admittedly, I am not conversant with how engine rev limits can be set or exceeded these days, or how often; but that might have something to do with it.

And one more thing Taz - don't worry about memory loss - just drink more Espresso. (Don't know if Red Bull works the same - might give you lift off).
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:44 AM   #16
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Malaysia 2009 anyone?

Kimi Raikkonen didn't ask questions when Ferrari told him to pit for wets on a bone dry track in Malaysia.

A perfect example of where questioning would have come very handy.
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Old 07-14-2009, 03:31 PM   #17
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A slight over reaction from Niki here in my opinion. A driver simply asks a question over a team radio, and its attempted to be turned into a scandal. I think if things like this are being scrutinised in such a negative way, maybe team radio should not be available to the viewing public. Obviously if an incident like Australia occurs, then that is different, but its becoming abit tiring now.

I am surprised Niki has been so damning of Lewis for asking such a question, when last season he couldn't stop himself dishing out praise for Lewis. To the point where if I was Lewis Hamilton, I would have considered a restraining order against the chap..

He's probably self satisfied in any case as he has made headlines and people are talking about his opinion, so can't be bad..
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Old 07-14-2009, 03:32 PM   #18
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Niki lauda is 100% correct. Naturally the Hamilton adoration rank and file will disagree.

Who is Niki Lauda?
He brought Ferrari from obsurity back into its championship winning ways. He was the driver that changed f1 because he was the first to approach racing scientifically and build a team around him to focus on the championship.

He won 2 championship titles with Ferrari.

He was not comfortably weened like a baby as was Hamilton - Niki came up the hard way, for despite coming from a wealthy family, they never financed his racing. That risk he took based on his iron self-confidence.

And how strong is he?
He is a driver that came back from death's door, that awful August 1, when he crashed and burned at the real Nurburgring - at Bergwerk.

When the priest was giving him the Last Rites, Lauda reflected afterwards that he wanted to punch the priests jaw, because he, Lauda, was NOT gping die.

Six weeks later, this brave and courageous man, finished 4th at the Italian Grand Prix. When he removed his helmet, his balaclava was soaked red.

For anyone to disparage the comments of Lauda, who incidentally has always been positive and encouraged Hamilton, they deserve nothing but antipathy and contempt from those of us who actually know who Niki Lauda is and have the respect for him that he deserves.

Any racing driver that wants to give up during a grand prix, unless there are exceptional circumstances, is a disgrace to f1.

But then we are all aware, that Lewis Hamilton, is a child, a whimp, and often makes mistakes on the race track.

Compared to tough drivers like Lauda, Webber and Button, he is an embarassment to motor racing.

That he got his "daddy" to whimp him out of the triathlon challenge HE proposed to Jenson Button 2008, demonstrates just wat a pathetic little man-child "lewith" is.
Lauda was a great driver but as a commentator he is not worth that much. We've all heard his stupid comments time and time again. Maybe he and Eddie Jordan should get together
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Old 07-14-2009, 03:48 PM   #19
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....And then he parked a working car at Fuji and handed the WDC to James Hunt.
Slightly different; one is a terrified driver fearing for his life a few months after having the last rights read to him the other is a cry baby pretty boy who has had a silver spoon in his mouth and is only now suffering with a bad car.
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Old 07-14-2009, 03:50 PM   #20
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Niki lauda is 100% correct. Naturally the Hamilton adoration rank and file will disagree.

Who is Niki Lauda?
He brought Ferrari from obsurity back into its championship winning ways. He was the driver that changed f1 because he was the first to approach racing scientifically and build a team around him to focus on the championship.

He won 2 championship titles with Ferrari.

He was not comfortably weened like a baby as was Hamilton - Niki came up the hard way, for despite coming from a wealthy family, they never financed his racing. That risk he took based on his iron self-confidence.

And how strong is he?
He is a driver that came back from death's door, that awful August 1, when he crashed and burned at the real Nurburgring - at Bergwerk.

When the priest was giving him the Last Rites, Lauda reflected afterwards that he wanted to punch the priests jaw, because he, Lauda, was NOT gping die.

Six weeks later, this brave and courageous man, finished 4th at the Italian Grand Prix. When he removed his helmet, his balaclava was soaked red.

For anyone to disparage the comments of Lauda, who incidentally has always been positive and encouraged Hamilton, they deserve nothing but antipathy and contempt from those of us who actually know who Niki Lauda is and have the respect for him that he deserves.

Any racing driver that wants to give up during a grand prix, unless there are exceptional circumstances, is a disgrace to f1.

But then we are all aware, that Lewis Hamilton, is a child, a whimp, and often makes mistakes on the race track.

Compared to tough drivers like Lauda, Webber and Button, he is an embarassment to motor racing.

That he got his "daddy" to whimp him out of the triathlon challenge HE proposed to Jenson Button 2008, demonstrates just wat a pathetic little man-child "lewith" is.
Wow, look who's been reading Wikipedia!! Shame you didn't type in Lewis Hamilton as your knowledge appears pretty limited
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