[lYVgWWcP]

Where they trying to finish the race at all costs so Button could get his 10 points? this will really help him to get a good lead in the standing points...

No, that's complete nonsense really. They are under an obligation to run the race if at all possible, which meant waiting until the last moment.

They would have looked like total chumps if 30 minutes before the 2 hour limit they called the race as over, then it stopped raining and they could have had 20 minutes further racing.

[VIAGRA-]

They certainly have a chance with Button at the wheel, but i wouldn't say it was completely theirs for the taking. They need to continue the great start they have made, and then come Britain, if they have a considerable lead of say 10-20 points they have a great chance.

[AttableBewNaw]

No, that's complete nonsense really. They are under an obligation to run the race if at all possible, which meant waiting until the last moment.

They would have looked like total chumps if 30 minutes before the 2 hour limit they called the race as over, then it stopped raining and they could have had 20 minutes further racing.

The nonsense was to try to finish the race in such conditions. It was almost close to the 2h limit and yet they haven't decided, when at 18:30 it was clear enough that there was not enough time to complete the 9 laps they needed to cover the 75% of the grand prix (please bear in mind that the called it off at 18:52, and that in order to restart the race, they needed to do 9 laps after the SC, which would have taken them more than 25min given the conditions, plus another 10 min for the teams to prepare). Therefore the only reason why they wanted to finish the race, once the 2 hours limit was almost completed, was to give full points, and not half. The only logic I see behind this was to award the winner with 10 points rather than 5 (as he is the one that has a bigger loss than the rest...).

Yet again this is only an idea, it has not have to be truth, thoughy it could, and if it is, it is certainly close to fixing results, something the FIA is doing lately a lot.

[MzTT]

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...on-to-ferrari/

Quite interesting praise by Brawn. Is it just a simple case of talking up his own driver or does he seriously think Button should have been considered over, say, Räikkönen?

[OnerePeepsy]

Samuratt - bear in mind that the two hour limit would not have actually been two hours, since the time while the race was suspended would have been added to it as per rule 5.3 in the sporting regulations. Of course it would have been dark before the time limit could be reached anyway, but theoretically the race might have continued to 7:15 or a little later if the weather had cleared up.

[TEFSADDERFISA]

The Brawn car is a very good car indeed. If you take Jenson out of the equation, it seems on a par with Toyota and slightly ahead of the rest.

Jenson is making the most of the opportunity and proving what a few of us have already maintained.

Jenson is using the car more than Rubens who is struggling when there is a lot of fuel onboard, but the reality is that Brawn GP car is by far ahead of others.
Kimi, Massa, Alonso, Hamilton, Webber, Kubica would all be beating Jenson with ease in that car.

[Michmant]

Jenson is using the car more than Rubens who is struggling when there is a lot of fuel onboard, but the reality is that Brawn GP car is by far ahead of others.
Kimi, Massa, Alonso, Hamilton, Webber, Kubica would all be beating Jenson with ease in that car.

you missed "in my opinion" off the end of that statement

[lYVgWWcP]

The nonsense was to try to finish the race in such conditions. It was almost close to the 2h limit and yet they haven't decided, when at 18:30 it was clear enough that there was not enough time to complete the 9 laps they needed to cover the 75% of the grand prix

You're going off the assumption here that the only reason to restart the race was to reach the 75% distance marker. But that's not relevant in this case. They are under an obligation to attempt to restart the race even if they cannot reach 75%. They must attempt to do the maximum distance possible.

[AttableBewNaw]

You're going off the assumption here that the only reason to restart the race was to reach the 75% distance marker. But that's not relevant in this case. They are under an obligation to attempt to restart the race even if they cannot reach 75%. They must attempt to do the maximum distance possible.

As I said, it is only an idea... Anyways there was no point in restarting the race for 4 laps under the SC. What was the purpose? create an accident? entertaining the fans?? no way.

I stand by my argument, the only reason the had to restart the race was to cover the 75% and give full points, otherwise I can not understand why they were risking an accident in such conditions for a show that the funs are not going to enjoy (who likes to see cars behind the SC for 9 laps???)

[HQTheodore]

Jenson is using the car more than Rubens who is struggling when there is a lot of fuel onboard, but the reality is that Brawn GP car is by far ahead of others.
Kimi, Massa, Alonso, Hamilton, Webber, Kubica would all be beating Jenson with ease in that car.

Well, I don't have the benefit of your psycic foresight so all I can do is use the facts on the table.

We have seen the results of RB and MS. Schumacher was a better driver but Rubens was not far off and bested him on quite a few occassions.

In the Honda, they were pretty equal when the car was a shed but as soon as it's sorted, Jenson is consistently the faster driver.

Either you think Rubinho is a crap driver and Schumacher not that special or the evidence suggests that if you rate Rubens as a driver, then Button is a level above?

[TEFSADDERFISA]

Well, I don't have the benefit of your psycic foresight so all I can do is use the facts on the table.

We have seen the results of RB and MS. Schumacher was a better driver but Rubens was not far off and bested him on quite a few occassions.

In the Honda, they were pretty equal when the car was a shed but as soon as it's sorted, Jenson is consistently the faster driver.

Either you think Rubinho is a crap driver and Schumacher not that special or the evidence suggests that if you rate Rubens as a driver, then Button is a level above?

Schumacher was quite many levels above Rubens at his peak.
Once rubens gets rid of the understeer problems he is having, he will be matching and beating Button again.

[HQTheodore]

Schumacher was quite many levels above Rubens at his peak.
Once rubens gets rid of the understeer problems he is having, he will be matching and beating Button again.

I'm not saying that Button will beat Rubens every time but over a season, I think you will see Button coming out on top. Time will tell.

[lYVgWWcP]

As I said, it is only an idea... Anyways there was no point in restarting the race for 4 laps under the SC. What was the purpose? create an accident? entertaining the fans?? no way.

I stand by my argument, the only reason the had to restart the race was to cover the 75% and give full points, otherwise I can not understand why they were risking an accident in such conditions for a show that the funs are not going to enjoy (who likes to see cars behind the SC for 9 laps???)

Sorry, but you are applying common sense to the situation, please stop . The FIA are officials who follow rules and regulations, and they're obligation is to run the race if conditions at all allow. And if that means running for 4 laps before the time limit, that's what they will do.

[HaseBeceDeemy]

I'm not saying that Button will beat Rubens every time but over a season, I think you will see Button coming out on top. Time will tell.

I have to say I expect Button to beat Barrichello. But both have been far from spectacular this year.

[HQTheodore]

I have to say I expect Button to beat Barrichello. But both have been far from spectacular this year.

I may be missing the joke here but what more can Button do apart from win races?

[HaseBeceDeemy]

I may be missing the joke here but what more can Button do apart from win races?

Win them convincingly.

[MzTT]

I may be missing the joke here but what more can Button do apart from win races?

This is exactly the problem here. Before rating Button accurately we must wait until other teams have caught up with Brawn, if they do it at all. At the moment it's difficult to rate, how well Button is driving, due to the car advantage. Hell, even Piquet or Nakajima would win in that car, if they kept it on the road.

Brawn's pace is underrated and it seems they haven't shown all of their cards yet - so catching them would prove to be difficult. Remember the beginning of the Malaysian GP. Button got stuck behind Alonso for a moment, while Rosberg and Trulli were pulling away. After Button passed Alonso (relatively easily considering clear car advantage and despite KERS disadvantage), he was immediately behind Trulli, despite having been behind by a few seconds. This moment proved to me clearly that BGP is untouchable. And from there on JB sat there patiently until pitstops.

About comparison with Barrichello. Based on the first two race weekends one should say that the Brazilian was clearly underperforming (and maybe one suggests he is past his prime), unless you believe Button is the greatest driver of all times, because his advantage over RB was bigger than Schumacher himself often had.

But all in all, it's not a knock on Button. He is doing, what he needs to be doing - winning races. Regardless of car advantage. Just that we can't really rate him yet.

[AttableBewNaw]

The FIA are officials who follow rules and regulations,

lol

Does what your common sense tells you??

[Usendyduexy]

We will wait and see. IMO this year will show, if FIA does not ruin Brawn, whether Jenson or Rubens are special or not. For me Rubens is not, I saw him in Ferrari and I am not impressed. I liked Jenson a lot in 2004, now I hope that he will be able to prove himself.

[Grarypealumma]

I have to say I expect Button to beat Barrichello. But both have been far from spectacular this year.

Yes, sack'em both - useless journeymen.....

How dare Button come first while being sympathetic to a car that has had little testing......