[PypeMaypetasy]

The used clothes market in the US and Europe is huge, but is completely different from the one in the DR.

In the DR it is out of necessity, in the US and Europe it is, mostly, aimed at those people who want a nice dress or suit at cheap prices.

In these times, thrift stores are making a killing. Even people with dispensable income are shopping in second hand stores.

[AssinHT]

The problem with the used cloths here is that most of those cloths come from Haiti where they are sent from donors as humanitarian aids, but instead of the haitian government giving it to its people it sales it to Dominicans.

I dont know where you heard that crazy fairy tale but what you wrote is false.

Here is the actual breakdown.

• The Haitian diaspora (Boston, NYC, Miami) buys in huge bulk from second hand clothing brokers for dirt cheap.

• Buy a old school Isuzu box truck and fill it to the max with the PePe clothing.

• Ship the truck to Haiti and sell the truck making a nice profit.

• Sell the PePe direct to customers. Or Sell wholesale to Madame Saras (Merchants) who in turn take the Pepe to sell in La Ville (lower Port Au Prince) or on the Malpasse/Jimani border.

[ServiceColas]

In these times, thrift stores are making a killing. Even people with dispensable income are shopping in second hand stores.

Of course, and why not? But they do not really need to. They do it because they can afford better quality at lower prices in those stores.

Here they do it, because they have to. And I still have to see the first Boss suit on one of those markets over here.

BelgianK

[PypeMaypetasy]

Of course, and why not? But they do not really need to.

We are living HARD times in the great ole USA. Many are shopping there because there is no choice!!!!

[ServiceColas]

We are living HARD times in the great ole USA. Many are shopping there because there is no choice!!!!

OK, I stand corrected. Do people have a choice here?

BelgianK

[PypeMaypetasy]

OK, I stand corrected.

BelgianK

No need to stand corrected. You can sit!!!!! lol

[JessicaLin]

I dont know where you heard that crazy fairy tale but what you wrote is false.

Here is the actual breakdown.

• The Haitian diaspora (Boston, NYC, Miami) buys in huge bulk from second hand clothing brokers for dirt cheap.

• Buy a old school Isuzu box truck and fill it to the max with the PePe clothing.

• Ship the truck to Haiti and sell the truck making a nice profit.

• Sell the PePe direct to customers. Or Sell wholesale to Madame Saras (Merchants) who in turn take the Pepe to sell in La Ville (lower Port Au Prince) or on the Malpasse/Jimani border.

Actually, you and JuanDolioLiving are both correct. Lots of bales of clothes have come across the border from Haiti into the DR at Dajabon. They were donations from many of the international help organizations.


Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

[sandracuk]

Wait! So you mean to say that the billion dollar biz of second hand clothes in the USA, Spain, Canada, France, Italy, etc... Which is about a bazillion times fold the actual amount of the market in the DR, is the actual economic state of those countries' people??!!?????


Do you happen to understand that in the U.S. of A. alone the used clothing biz is a billion dollar industry, which generates over 12 billion pounds of used clothes each year? That only in registered thrift used clothes stores the number is bigger than any other developed or undeveloped nation save for France and India?

Do you understand that you can go online to Ebay and shop for designer duds all USED in the Ole U.S.A. and see that there's a larger market online than in brick and mortar?

You really need to do your homework, before you go around posting such utter Blah, blah, blah on a public forum...

So, given the numbers is the U.S.A's prosperity and middle class a mirage behind all those Gotham's skyscrapers?

Pleaaaazzzzeeee!

In the U.S. major labels and biz groups have tried for decades to have the used clothing biz shut down and only restricted to exports. Unlucky for them, each time they tried to muscle their way, they got beat down horribly.

They even pushed the local authorities to limit where and how many thrift stores can operate within shopping districts.

Stop talking of stuff you certainly show to know nothing about in the first place, and secondly and worst, trying to make a point about the DR economy on all this.

Stick to other topics...

your point being? how is that a response to what Onions and Carrots posted? does the fact that used clothes are also sold in the USA mean that the DR is now a superpower? i mean, what the heck are you attempting to say?

[sandracuk]

says PICHARDO

The problem is big, since Aduanas can't open each and every box to check for these guys and atop that, they even remove the labels from the clothes and reattach them once they land in the DR door to door.

who says aduanas cannot open each and every box? really? my buddy imported a container of clothes from London, and we spent ALL DAY in customs, since they opened EVERY BOX, and checked even for sizes. so, it is the corruption that is at the root of the problem, since most guys who are willing top pay off aduanas would not have gone through the nightmare that we did.

[lizadax]

says PICHARDO

The problem is big, since Aduanas can't open each and every box to check for these guys and atop that, they even remove the labels from the clothes and reattach them once they land in the DR door to door.

who says aduanas cannot open each and every box? really? my buddy imported a container of clothes from London, and we spent ALL DAY in customs, since they opened EVERY BOX, and checked even for sizes. so, it is the corruption that is at the root of the problem, since most guys who are willing top pay off aduanas would not have gone through the nightmare that we did.

Your buddy IMPORTED the boxes in a contained himself, the untold number of boxes imported by shipping companies don't go by this same box by box check as private importers do! They can only target a very minimal amount of the containers making land in the ports for that matter!

When a shipping company picks your box in NYC and then sends it along thousands to the DR door to door, the process is not the same!

[sandracuk]

Your buddy IMPORTED the boxes in a contained himself, the untold number of boxes imported by shipping companies don't go by this same box by box check as private importers do! They can only target a very minimal amount of the containers making land in the ports for that matter!

When a shipping company picks your box in NYC and then sends it along thousands to the DR door to door, the process is not the same!

done that, many times. that they do not check the contents is a matter of corrupt arrangement. they do not have the manpòwer to check all the boxes, but they could do random checks on ALL. i know guys here whose stuff does not get checked in customs. they have a hook at Manzanillo, and the container goes from ship to business...that is common knowledge. if you try to import on your own, of course it will get checked...the guys need their comision, and you are not one of their ¨preferred customers¨:

[lizadax]

done that, many times. that they do not check the contents is a matter of corrupt arrangement. they do not have the manpòwer to check all the boxes, but they could do random checks on ALL. i know guys here whose stuff does not get checked in customs. they have a hook at Manzanillo, and the container goes from ship to business...that is common knowledge. if you try to import on your own, of course it will get checked...the guys need their comision, and you are not one of their ¨preferred customers¨:

That's exactly what they do: Random checks and checks done on highly problematic shippers.

Just so you know, this happens all over the world at ports for large volume shippers! In the US the number of containers actually hand checked prior to getting the go ahead to leave the port is less than that for the DR!!!!

It's IMPOSSIBLE to check each box on volume shippers! Can't be done unless you're willing (as a country) to hold cargo in the ports pending check for months or to contract a stupid number of people (never mind the logistics) to carry that out on time.

The Law was old and never enforced for the same reason: It can't be effectively applied 100% or even 50%, let alone to curtail the trafficking.

The DR's free zones and plenty of manufacturers out of it, use the most economical used clothes by the pound to stuff/fill other products where there's no Law against using non-new materials for those products.

They do wash them and all that stuff, but still some people can break out on certain allergies due to products mixed into the fillings. The DR sells a lot of mattresses to the region that make extensive use of that material.

The problem for the country's large stores and general biz is when those same channels are abused for importing new clothes as used ones and avoid paying the same taxes on imports.

A new format needs to be invoked to deal with this problem and it's very hard to implement, as this calls for having a strict licensing system in place for all labels in the country and foreign brands. Much like only authorized stores can carry such and such labels as new for sale. Easy on paper, but even first world super powers like the US and much of the EU has had very limited success that way.

I happen to believe we don't need more Laws, but actual enforcement of the ones we already have and make the penalties so stiff and prison time so hard to bare that very few will dare to break the Law at the ports.

It's the same view and stance I have with drug enforcement: Forget the dealers and focus on their client base. Destroy their client base and see demand evaporate, therefore supply will crumble along with it.

[Tilmbeinymn]

It's the same view and stance I have with drug enforcement: Forget the dealers and focus on their client base. Destroy their client base and see demand evaporate, therefore supply will crumble along with it.

That is exactly what has been going on in the failed war on drugs. And you think it works? Prohibition does has not, does not and will never work. If that is the logic you live your life by, no wonder your posts are so hard to fathom.
Now back to The Devil Wears Prada.