[overavantstandard]

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-az1...nsafe_driving/

[UlceskLialels]

makes you realise how quick it happens...

[Mark_NyB]

Thing I can't understand is why the PC brigade are against graphic adverts for road safety!
The reality is about that bad - I've come across a number of serious and fatal 'accidents' - fortunately mostly after the worst has been attended to, known ( some better than others) well over a dozen people killed in car crashes and even had to identify a friend (sister's BF) who was killed in a crash!

IMO, this sort of thing should be part of driver training as most people just don't realise how vulnerable one can be in a car. Race and rally cars have huge crashes and the drivers usually walk away, but the cars are designed to protect the driver.

If girls realise they be disfigured and boys realise they may be crippled or, with a broken back, never able to have sex again, maybe they'd think twice!

[Kafuuil]

the one with the bf/gf getting squashed against the wall omfg

[Zaebal]

This was shown on another forum (Australian forum) I think yesterday. Was promoting "Speeding kills", with the title "This video WILL make you SLOW DOWN".

As far as I'm concerned, as much as speeding may be a factor in many accidents. It's stupidity that kills not speeding. In those video's it goes to show how people driving recklessly, usually in high pedestrian areas, have no common sense or awareness.

I by no means promote speeding and rarely do it myself, but when I'm on a large open freeway with the road to myself and far away from high density population, then I don't mind going over the speed limit if I feel safe doing so. But never in my mind have I ever thought to do the same in the city, or town where slow thinking pedestrians wander across the roads without a care in the world. In fact, if it looks to crowded, I usually will sit under the speed limit even if it pisses off the drivers behind me.

It should be a law that if you kill someone through stupidity then it should be the same as if you murdered them. Sure there was no intention to kill said person. But it was complete intention to drive recklessly dramatically increasing the chances of harming/killing someone.

Sorry about the rant, but here in Australia laws are just becoming so absolutely ridiculous it's not funny.

[overavantstandard]

speed is a factor, regardless.

its reaction times and condition of the car and driver capability too

and if all 3 are poor then its a factor.

[alicewong]

I tend to agree that speed is a factor, as you never know what's around the corner. I use the motorway every day and the stupidity/accidents I've seen are pretty terrible.

However I also agree that recklessness is by far the biggest factor in such accidents; if you're paying attention, driving with both hands on the wheel, sober and with your full attention on what you're doing, then you'll be more likely to avoid an accident...even if you're driving a little bit quicker.

In my opinion, why take the risk? stick to the limits and drive sensibly; you'll get there

[LianneForbess]

I'm sorry, but *some* of these are hilariously stupid. Like, the lady holding the infant in her arms in the back seat and they hit something and it flies toward the windshield?? [rofl]

I applaud and agree with the message however, that we all must practice caution, extreme caution, but you can't just slap an Evanescence song to it and show a bunch of hilariously stupid clips (although it looked like a few might be real?) to make me feel sad about driving with caution.

[Kafuuil]

I'm sorry, but *some* of these are hilariously stupid. Like, the lady holding the infant in her arms in the back seat and they hit something and it flies toward the windshield?? [rofl]

I applaud and agree with the message however, that we all must practice caution, extreme caution, but you can't just slap an Evanescence song to it and show a bunch of hilariously stupid clips (although it looked like a few might be real?) to make me feel sad about driving with caution.

Some are real footage, that baby one you described, why can that not be a real world scenario?

[LianneForbess]

Some are real footage, that baby one you described, why can that not be a real world scenario?

i'm not doubting that it can't happen. I can easily imagine that someone in this world would be dumb enough to do that.

[paydayuscf]

the one with the bf/gf getting squashed against the wall omfg

Yeah, hahahaha that was a good one [rofl]
I kid, I kid (tasteless, you say?), but that really looked like a movie to me for some reason.
I know it could happen, but it just didn't feel real.
Over-dramaticized (I know that is a terrifying and very sad moment, but you know, it just wasn't done right, and that fact really made a lot of the others non-powerful

When I get a car, I'll try my best to be careful, but a minute or so in to the video, the guy walking over the road - that wasn't the driver!
The driver couldn't have reacted and braked to a full stop in a fraction of a second.
Before you cross a busy road like that, you should lean your head out, and walk fast if there's not a car in sight/ close range.

[Kafuuil]

i'm not doubting that it can't happen. I can easily imagine that someone in this world would be dumb enough to do that.

sorry mis-interpreted your post

[BiseCreesia]

And it's **** like that which makes me happy to be boring but safe. [yes]

[GECEDEANY]

I think some people still wouldn't drive any safer even if they were involved in something like that. It's really sad to know there is people like that out there

[overavantstandard]

well after the "speeding" incident I got absolutely dragged over the coals for in Scotland effected me so much that I don't even speed anymore,well I wasn't even speeding in the first place....

I'm so paranoid now,don't even want to even creep 1mph over the stated limit...

****ing police and their conviction quoters

still makes me angry 3 years on...

[HaroTaure]

There's speeding, and then there's SPEEDING.

Going 15mph over the speed limit on a smooth highway in good light and weather, while keeping 100m between your car and other cars in your lane isn't speeding... it's going fast. It's not going to hurt anyone.

Doing 45 down a busy city street, flooring it at every light (that you don't miss) is SPEEDING. Doing 60+ in pouring rain in heavy traffic is SPEEDING.

Doing 20mph > than traffic and weaving in and out is just ****ing stupid... and going into a (standstill-traffic) exit at 75mph across 4 lanes or doing 50 while doing a blind turn into a yellow-turning-red streetlight should be a capital offense.

Saw someone killed that way right in front on my window. It was night, and the car was trying to get through the light of a big intersection, and was going very fast, and didn't see the pedestrian who was dressed in black. The ambulance didn't even bother driving the victim anywhere for an hour.

[Nikitka]

and going into a (standstill-traffic) exit at 75mph across 4 lanes ... should be a capital offense.

And the opposite too. Saw a NJ driver (surprise!) go from a complete standstill right over to the left lane in 75mph traffic a bit north of the city a few years ago. Still can't believe the idiot didn't get run down by a truck.


In my mind, more rigorous enforcement of speed limits is counterproductive to road safety. If you have to be worried about not erring above the speed limit, you're staring at the gauge all the time, not the road. Get the people weaving through traffic or passing w/o signaling, but hell with farming month-end quotas off people going 75 or 80 in 75 or 80 mph traffic. Though I think I prefer that to the state police guaranteed 'slow down traffic' method, where they weave through to the front of a group and go to the left or right lane, slow down and then make a hard turn into the far lane [no]

[pataagusata]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5R0IQ-ySuI
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[Zaebal]

speed is a factor, regardless.

its reaction times and condition of the car and driver capability too

and if all 3 are poor then its a factor.

I never said speeding was NOT a factor. I'm saying stupidity is the biggest factor. If your doing 20+km/h over the limit on busy roads and weaving in and out of traffic whilst on your mobile. Yes speeding is most definitely a factor in an accident. But it's driver stupidity for speeding in a dangerous area. So Stupidity is at fault.

I can almost bet even if that guy was doing the speed limit, there would be the same end result.

But like I said, I rarely speed myself, and believe it or not, if I got a highway to myself in an 80km/h zone (usually at around 12am or early hours in the morning) I will literally just sit on 60km/h because it feel more comfortable (less engine noise, smoother driving, more relaxing etc) But as soon as I see another car I will pick up to 80

But as I said, speeding is definitely a factor, but it's stupidity for speeding in dangerous areas that is the cause of most accidents like in that video imo. I can almost bet in half of them even if those drivers where doing the speed limit, the same end result would occur.

[Mark_NyB]

speed is a factor, regardless.

its reaction times and condition of the car and driver capability too

and if all 3 are poor then its a factor.

In as far as they're moving...

The number one, cardinal rule, IMO, is STAY IN YOUR LANE!
Most crashes are due to people driving off the side of the road or into oncoming traffic.