[Elissetecausa]

They've got a cutting blade out now on a robotic arm.

Tragicomedy........ [thumbdown]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37463005..._spill&from=ET

[littlePen]

I reckon they should detonate a nuke on it [yes]

[KixdricyArrip]

I reckon they should detonate a nuke on it [yes]

I was sure that the idea of using explosives got discounted because they're already dealing with quite a lot of pressure, so the parts at the depth can withstand very major hydraulic events. They pretty much stated flat out that anything that would generate a pressure wave strong enough to crimp the well, also has a good chance of simply opening up the entire reservoir.

Think 10'000 barrels per day is bad... try several billion.

[bixlewlyimila]

Yes, you are probably right that the failure may be somewhere other then the cap. But my main point is how weight on top of something can effect pressure.

No worries, I was taking the proverbial a bit - been stuffing around with hydraulics, off and on, for over 30 years.
oilfields are normally semi-permiable rocks, which mean they, rather than the oil, are the primary support for the overbearing impermiable rock. It may be more a case of the water pressure at those depths.
Regardless, the result is an excess of pressure at the pipe - BTW, anyone found a reference to exactly what the oil pressure is?
If I recall my imperial, 5000ft is approximately 2300PSI of salt water pressure head, so the oil pressure must be a fair bit above that?

[littlePen]

ive had an Idea....

hows about they dig round the well pipe about 5-15m deep then get use a crimper to crimp it in various places along that 5-15m of exposed well pipe

[littlePen]

or just hammer a massive cork on a string in the end

[Elissetecausa]

or just hammer a massive cork on a string in the end

At this point I am thinking they tie a fake mouse to the end of the pipe, then drop a herd of scuba-elephants nearby, and when they finish stomping the mouse, the pipe will be sealed.

Probably have at least the same amount of success as all the things they have tried so far......

[ArraryTauTDew]

ive had an Idea....

hows about they dig round the well pipe about 5-15m deep then get use a crimper to crimp it in various places along that 5-15m of exposed well pipe

I thought about that too, a big hydraulic crimper to pinch off the pipe in a few places. You'd think with all the ROV's they are using, building a crimper would be childs play to them. Now it seems they're cutting off what's left above the BOP, after that it's just the pipe down underground. Digging might not be too easy that far underwater.

[Jxlacvio]

The Gulf is absolutely, positively ****ed. None of us can imagine the breadth of damage that has already been done, not to mention that stopping the oil leak will inevitably take a few more months to contain (if we're lucky). Commercial fishing is in dire jeopardy, not to mention property values and the coastal economy that depends on the pristine beaches the Gulf provides. Imagine finally buying the home of your dreams on the water, only to have your property turn into a wasteland, not to mention potential sickness from toxic benzene in the atmosphere. All attempts to stop the leak are being done to preserve the well. There is potentially enough oil in the well to last our entire lifetime, so even if a solution arises that can permanently close the well (as seen in the link below), you can bet your ass BP will not even consider it.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=158297

[littlePen]

The Gulf is absolutely, positively ****ed. None of us can imagine the breadth of damage that has already been done, not to mention that stopping the oil leak will inevitably take a few more months to contain (if we're lucky). Commercial fishing is in dire jeopardy, not to mention property values and the coastal economy that depends on the pristine beaches the Gulf provides. Imagine finally buying the home of your dreams on the water, only to have your property turn into a wasteland, not to mention potential sickness from toxic benzene in the atmosphere. All attempts to stop the leak are being done to preserve the well. There is potentially enough oil in the well to last our entire lifetime, so even if a solution arises that can permanently close the well (as seen in the link below), you can bet your ass BP will not even consider it.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=158297

see nuclear.... I told yee all...

[Poreponko]

see nuclear.... I told yee all...

Agreed, bizarre as it seems it looks like the best option... http://www.ngoilgas.com/news/a-nuke-...ulf-oil-spill/

[sensation]

it isn't bizarre at all...this isn't some super strong nuclear bomb that would be necessary, but a small tactical nuke. At the end of the day though, that would be a government decision, as I very much doubt BP has any tactical nukes lying around.

Didn't the russians seal a well that way back in the 70's? Not sure if it was in those links, but i recall somesuch happening.

[8jIDXQ80]

The Gulf is absolutely, positively ****ed. None of us can imagine the breadth of damage that has already been done, not to mention that stopping the oil leak will inevitably take a few more months to contain (if we're lucky). Commercial fishing is in dire jeopardy, not to mention property values and the coastal economy that depends on the pristine beaches the Gulf provides. Imagine finally buying the home of your dreams on the water,
leak are being done to preserve the well. There is potentially enough oil in the well to last our entire lifetime, so even if a solution arises that can permanently close the well (as seen in the link below), you can bet your ass BP will not even consider it.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=158297

Q F MF T

[Elissetecausa]

it isn't bizarre at all...this isn't some super strong nuclear bomb that would be necessary, but a small tactical nuke. At the end of the day though, that would be a government decision, as I very much doubt BP has any tactical nukes lying around.

Didn't the russians seal a well that way back in the 70's? Not sure if it was in those links, but i recall somesuch happening.

This guy could handle it....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaaQwJAww6s

[tpJKhY8Z]

You Brits should honestly be happy that the US isn´t considering this as an act of Eco terrorism.

[ImapFidaarram]

You Brits should honestly be happy that the US isn´t considering this as an act of Eco terrorism.

I think they already do. This has northing to do with Britain though!

[littlePen]

I just experimented with crimping a cylindrical object in the toilet

I would say it would work if you could crimp it in various stages you just have to be careful (in my case) not to premature Pinch and watch out for blow pasts,I also did my own version of a top kill [rofl]

[KixdricyArrip]

dupe, read next...

[KixdricyArrip]

The Gulf is absolutely, positively ****ed. None of us can imagine the breadth of damage that has already been done, not to mention that stopping the oil leak will inevitably take a few more months to contain (if we're lucky). Commercial fishing is in dire jeopardy, not to mention property values and the coastal economy that depends on the pristine beaches the Gulf provides. Imagine finally buying the home of your dreams on the water, only to have your property turn into a wasteland, not to mention potential sickness from toxic benzene in the atmosphere. All attempts to stop the leak are being done to preserve the well. There is potentially enough oil in the well to last our entire lifetime, so even if a solution arises that can permanently close the well (as seen in the link below), you can bet your ass BP will not even consider it.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=158297

Preserve the well? Seriously?

Do you really think that it's cheaper for BP to pay penalties, get involved in a cleanup, and then deal with endless congressional investigations... than to just seal this well and drill another?

You're like the 9/11 conspiracy people... You willingly miss the forest for the trees.

Nobody cares about this well at the moment, except in terms of sealing it as fast as possible.

The few million dollars it would take BP to drill another well are a drop in the bucket compared to how much they already spent trying to seal this one. At the moment, nobody wants this well plugged more than the BP corporate officers, and all the way down the chain...

Not to mention this: the well in question is an exploration well not a production well. To get oil out of this reservoir, another drill was going to be drilled anyway.

There are enough FACTS out there that implicate BP in being irresponsible here, there is no need to be fishing for STUPID conspiracy theories, based on armchair conjectures of ignorant internet dwellers.

[EjPWyPm4]

BP just cut the pipe.

Next step, putting a cap on said pipe.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/03...place-new-cap/

Stay tuned.