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Old 05-22-2009, 03:03 PM   #21
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Drake doesn't know that much about civil rights issues as he thinks he does.
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Old 05-22-2009, 04:45 PM   #22
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Abortion is about womens rights, which is part of civil rights.
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Old 05-22-2009, 05:22 PM   #23
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Abortion is about womens rights, which is part of civil rights.
Problem is that it is also (for the other side), about unborn rights. So you have rights against rights.
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Old 05-22-2009, 05:41 PM   #24
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Problem is that it is also (for the other side), about unborn rights. So you have rights against rights.
So it's still a civil rights issue then, just a more complicated one.
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Old 05-22-2009, 07:14 PM   #25
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Then feel free to answer my questions in my other post.
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Old 05-22-2009, 08:04 PM   #26
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Right. It was only a coincidence that white Southerners went over to Republican party during civil rights movement. The civil rights movement had nothing to do with this demographic-political change.

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Old 05-22-2009, 08:55 PM   #27
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Okay - replace the word "during" with "after" then.

Even given that this change took place after the civil rights movement, you cannot tell me that the aftermath of civil rights movement had nothing to do with the demographic-political change among white Southerners. It was a racist counterreaction movement, which is why Richard Nixon sought to appeal to white Southerners during his campaign with promise to reverse or delay effect of civil rights legislation. Which is also why such a significantly greater number of minority group members now follow the Democratic party rather than the Republican party; it's one of the legacies of the civil rights movement.

During or after - does not chnage the validity of my argument. If you only want to focus on Democrats who were racist during this time period, how do you explain the fact that black voters in Nortern cities began to shift to Democratic party during Great Depression? The effforts of Martin Luther King Jr. to work with Lyndon B. Johnson on civil rights issues during 1960s?
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:09 PM   #28
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Which is also why such a significantly greater number of minority group members now follow the Democratic party rather than the Republican party; it's one of the legacies of the civil rights movement.

No, it isn't. Minorities were already majority Democratic back in the New Deal coalition. The fact that the Democrats finally gave up on institutionalized racism in the 60s simply allowed the few remaining black holdouts to vote without shame for the Democratic party that best represented their economic and social viewpoints.

how do you explain the fact that black voters in Nortern cities began to shift to Democratic party during Great Depression?

Because the Democratic party best represented their economic and social viewpoints. This isn't rocket science...
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