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Old 08-29-2008, 08:15 AM   #1
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Default McCain's VP is...
Who?
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:30 AM   #2
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I'm betting Pawlenty's a head-fake. He's a low risk, low reward choice, which is a poor strategy for McCain at this point (particularly given the apparent success of the Dem Convention).

Dunno who it'll be. I suppose Romney's the most likely. I'm hoping Lieberman...
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:36 AM   #3
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He's a low risk, low reward choice, which is a poor strategy for McCain at this point (particularly given the apparent success of the Dem Convention). McCain is 5 points ahead of Obama, and this was before Obama picked Biden.

He doesn't need to reach. Pawlenty is an excellent pick.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:41 AM   #4
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I should add, BTW, that his smartest pick would probably be Kay Bailey Hutchison. His problem is that she probably doesn't want to go down with the ship (she's interested in the Guv's mansion, which apparently isn't a bad spring-board to the Presidency).
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:07 AM   #5
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You realize that you used the past tense and the present tense in the same sentence, right (and no, that wasn't the case a week ago, and isn't the case now)? I thought the implication was clear. Biden isn't going to help him overcome McCain's 5 point lead going into the convention, ergo, there is no need for McCain to reach.
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:21 AM   #6
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Here's to hoping that it isn't Romney.
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:26 AM   #7
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Pawlenty sounds like a phonetical variation of plenty. Like puhleese and please.
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:34 AM   #8
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The morning news' idle speculation is pointing toward Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, based on her travel arrangements to Dayton last night (which workers at the airport called the most secretive flight they've ever dealt with).

From what I read she's slightly to the right of McCain, which isn't my cup of tea, but her career start as an ethics whistleblower against her own party and record of reform are a plus for independents. Oh yeah, and she has a vagina, so Obama might have to worry about some Hillary voters defecting. Even if that only ends up being 5% or less of his party, that could still tip the scales in such a close race.
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:51 PM   #9
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I thought the implication was clear. Biden isn't going to help him overcome McCain's 5 point lead going into the convention, ergo, there is no need for McCain to reach. Once more, McCain clearly never had a 5 point lead. While a solitary outlying poll from a bad pollster two weeks ago gave him a 5 point lead (Zogby), Obama has been consistently ahead on average for months now.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/08-us-pres-ge-mvo.php

Right, just like earlier you suggested Lieberman. I honestly don't think you have the best interests of the GOP. I never said that Lieberman was the smartest pick. I said that I was personally hoping for him. Do you understand the difference?

If he picks a woman it would be Palin, not KBH. Palin basically refutes McCain's experience argument, plus got a cop fired because he had issues with his ex-wife/Palin's sister. That'd be an awesome choice.
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:59 PM   #10
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Just saw a news report that Pawlenty has denied he'll be in Dayton today.
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:20 PM   #11
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Tim Pawlenty.

If so, then McCain has shown a lack of balls.
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:39 PM   #12
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It's probably not Palin (she's apparently in Alaska still), but out of curiosity, why would you vote Ron Paul based on that?
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:55 PM   #13
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...,4320091.story

The Trib claims an unnamed Republican source confirms Palin is the VP pick ... I'm not sure I believe it, but who knows. It's the first remotely reputable source I've seen that uses 'confirm'...
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:11 PM   #14
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It really doesn't matter who McCain picks. After Obama's speech last night, it is clear that McCain, although a cool guy to hang out with, is only interested in impoverishing the country and killing brown people. Now that the truth is out, McCain stands no chance whoever he picks.
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:12 PM   #15
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Here's the real issue:

Go to Google Images, google Sarah Palin, and look particularly at the pictures that are clearly official head shots. In every single one of them, she looks like the "before" image of a star of a MILF-themed porn video.

The question is, does that work for her or against her?
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:18 PM   #16
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Originally posted by PLATO
That might be true. McCain, after 26 years in the Senate, may actually have no knowledge of the workings of Government. I'm not saying he doesn't know how to exploit the system and get paid by lobbyists.

I'm saying he's an intellectual light weight with massive gaps of understanding when it comes to geopolitical situations (his lack of knowledge of the Middle East, for instance) to economics (his atrociously stupid plans to deal with the new energy crisis).

Just because he's part of the old establishment in government doesn't mean he's smart.
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:33 PM   #17
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Originally posted by Asher

I'm not saying he doesn't know how to exploit the system and get paid by lobbyists.

I'm saying he's an intellectual light weight with massive gaps of understanding when it comes to geopolitical situations (his lack of knowledge of the Middle East, for instance) to economics (his atrociously stupid plans to deal with the new energy crisis).

Just because he's part of the old establishment in government doesn't mean he's smart. Exactly! Stupid old man. Move over for the messiah!

New ideas now! Let's change the most successful country in the history of the world!

Do it now!!!
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:46 PM   #18
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August 29, 2008
McCain names Sarah Palin as surprise VP choice
Posted: 10:40 AM ET

From CNN's Dana Bash and John King

(CNN) – A senior John McCain campaign official told CNN that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin
will be McCain's running mate.

Palin, 44, is a first-term governor who unseated incumbent Gov. Frank Murkowski in the Republican primary in 2006 and went on to defeat former Gov. Tony Knowles, a Democrat, in the general election.

An advocate of drilling for oil in her state's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, she is little known outside of Alaska.
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:56 PM   #19
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Kudos to McCain on probably the best choice he could have made.

I've been saying Pawlenty was the guy for weeks now because of the scandal Palin's caught up in (as Ramo mentioned, she got her soon-to-be-if-not-already ex-brother-in-law fired from his state job because of the contentiousness of his divorce from her sister), but clearly McCain decided to chance that going unnoticed by the rest of the nation. Palin's got obvious national visibility issues (same as Pawlenty), but she complements McCain in ways Pawlenty couldn't (namely, she will be a draw for the remaining Clinton-obsessed Democratic PUMA voters, even if her politics are all wrong for them).

It's tough to say what will happen from here, except for a couple of things:

1. Biden will surely start hammering Palin on the abuse-of-power scandal this very afternoon so that the American public knows the baggage she's bringing with her.

2. The GOP needs to stop hitting Obama on lack of experience now that McCain's picked someone who's even more of a neophyte than Obama for the VP job. If those attacks continue it will smack of "trying to have your cake and eat it too" and cost the Republicans votes.
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Old 08-29-2008, 06:00 PM   #20
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Either way, this will be a historic election.
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