List Two Things You Hate About The Candidate You Support.
 

I want him to have fits of rage. I want the Irans and North Koreas and Russians to know he has fits of rage.
I want him to have justified fits of rage, which I think he does. The time for talk comes and goes.

1. He has made some fairly elementary mistakes that play into the Republican strategy of painting him as a weak rookie. Whining about the "cone of silence" ?? Dude, just get your own answers straight.

2. Stupid pandering bs (everybody does it, but it doesn't mean I like it) like "windfall taxes" on oil companies. Instead of demonizing Exxon Mobil and the like, I wonder what could happen if a candidate who is serious about alternatives sat down with the CEOs of big bad oil to hammer out some sort of joint public-private effort to develop those alternatives (thus ensuring Exxon, et al. a share in the profits of those new industries). Just a thought, perhaps unworkable.

I'll offer a third: I do worry a bit about protectionism. There's been some rhetoric about NAFTA and such that concerns me.

-Arrian

I'd be glad if I knew for sure who to support in the first place (speaking of my home Kraut politicians of course) http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/smile.gif

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I want him to have fits of rage. I want the Irans and North Koreas and Russians to know he has fits of rage.
I want him to have justified fits of rage, which I think he does. The time for talk comes and goes.
I don't want a week president by any means, but there are times when a person must see beyond their anger and I'm not so sure he doesn't have a strong vindictive streak. It may be totally unjustified but it's a concern for me.

I look at it as similar to dealing with children. It takes more than saying over and over "Don't do that again. Don't do that again. Don't do that again."
At some point, some negative reenforcement may be required.

The biggie for me is Obama's support for farm subsidies http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ons/icon13.gif

There are, of course, countless other issues I have with him, but this is the only major one where McCain has a clearly superior record...

Hopefully, he'll take a less parochial view once he stops representing a farm state. There's some reason to believe this is the case based on statements he made at the debates, though I wouldn't put money on a decent farm bill being signed into law since that would mean spending a huge amount of political capital.

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I look at it as similar to dealing with children. It takes more than saying over and over "Don't do that again. Don't do that again. Don't do that again."
At some point, some negative reenforcement may be required. Zkribbler in thrown into a massive negative flashback. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/eek.gif

Years ago, I was sitting at a restaurant table with a bunch of my friends, one of whom had brought along her small son. He was playing with the lid on the cream. click, click, click She'd say, "Don't play with that, honey." click, click, click "Please don't play with that." click, click, click "Darling, stop playing with that." click, click, click "Honey, don't play with that." click, click, click

At which point, I reach over, took the cream container from the kid and set it down on the far end of the table where he couldn't reach it. She immediately picked it up and handed back to him. "It's okay," she told me. "He can play with it." http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/eek.gifhttp://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/mad.gif

If I'd have been a gun owner, I would have exercised my 2nd Amendment Rights. What an incredibly lousy mother. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ons/icon13.gif

Now, back to our discussion on Presidential candidates:

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Originally posted by Kirnwaffen
2) "Above my paygrade"? Are you serious? If you want to say that it's between her and God, then go right ahead, but "above my paygrade"? Dude, you're potentially the next leader of the frickin' free world. Nothing is above your paygrade. I heard about that. It doesn't seem like all that bad of an answer, and it's at least a somewhat artful dodge, unlike that wooden cliche Kerry tried to foist off on the Pro-Life movement during the debates. I think even if I were Pro-Choice I'd have wanted to reach into the TV and pimp-smack him for that.

Then again, maybe the way Obama made the pay grade remark was obnoxious. I didn't watch that discussion or whatever it was called.

The "pay grade" thing is clearly a dodge. The meaning of that statement is it's up to the individual conscience and doctor, which is an acceptably pro-choice answer. It's hard to blame him for being so oblique in front of an audience that gave Kerry ~15% of their vote...

It is even more interesting if you as black religious types to justify their position faith wise http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/nod.gif

I hate the fact that he supports embryonic stem cell research, and I hate the fact that he was the founder of the Gang of 14 deal.

As far as I see it, Obama is left of McCain, and McCain is left of me, so McCain is the one I support.

The "pay grade" thing is clearly a dodge. The meaning of that statement is it's up to the individual conscience and doctor, which is an acceptably pro-choice answer. It's hard to blame him for being so oblique in front of an audience that gave Kerry ~15% of their vote... Yeah, but think of the sound byte. If the McCain campaign doesn't put that in an attack ad, I'll eat my left foot. I just think there were infinitely better ways to address that question.

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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
I hate the fact that he supports embryonic stem cell research, I hate idiots. So what can you do about it.

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Nice try, have a cookie.

And hush while the big people talk...

Okay, let's not have the abortion debate here please...

Knee jerk?

I do hope you are aware that there are many adult cell therapies that are already out there.

Why use embryonic cells when you have a more effective alternative?

Best of all you have no issues with tissue rejection since the tissues are your own.

All right, we'll stick to atypical name calling. Dannubis, you're an adulterine catamite!

I hate that my candidate is so popular and is such a good speaker. These are not qualities I want in a president! http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/doitnow.gif