[eljugadordepoquer]

Originally posted by Berzerker
I dont have to agree with Farrakhan to acknowledge his importance. Obviously they agree on some things and disagree on others, and Wright appears to approve of Farrakhan's over all "influence". So, whats yer point? It appears that Wright seems to agree with Farrakhan on his views on Zionism being a "gutter religion". Do you not disagree with that ideal?

[gechaheritt]

I know Farrakhan sucks.

[Longwow]

Zionism isn't a religion, Berz. It was a trick question.

[FYIbiatches]

Originally posted by Ramo
It was an interesting interview, FWIW. Not really. It seemed like a bunch of softballs to me.

PS Berz, whose minds are you refering to?

[IodinkBoilk]

The people who said Zionism is a gutter religion

[BrandandGeneric]

Imran, do you have a quote from Wright saying Zionism is a gutter religion or was that an assumption?

[JacomoR]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel

You don't know what you're talking about. There is really nothing I can do to convince you that your memory is incorrect, but here goes:

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLI...campaign.wrap/ Not even close. If you want to argue that both sides get equal treatment, then go ahead. Those of us actually in possession of our faculties know different. I watched those campaigns. I don't remember scream treatment.

Obama is being smeared as a black militant, and too many of the media are going along with it by "reporting the story", which is a non-story since Obama is clearly not a black militant.

In some ways it would be better if Obama lost because of it. Too many black Americans still think that it is possible for them to get a fair deal in the US. If he wins they will probably keep believing that, even though it isn't true.

And Farrakhan is not the man he is made out to be. Sure, he's said some unwise things, but so has Pat Buchanan.

[Irrampbroow]

There are nutjobs at both ends of the political spectrum. Wright is a nutjob, and Buchanan is a nutjob.


NEXT!

[Assungusa]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Buchanan is an insightful commentator, and he's not very partisan... I know. I actually like him although I disagree with him. His great virtue is that he actually says what he thinks, even if it is fairly nuanced, and I've seen him be respectful of his opponents in debate. He's the opposite of the school of Coulter and Hannity. At least Buchanan's ideas are his own and arrived at by his own process of reasoning.

The comparison with Farrakhan was in regard to the Hitler smears. Both Farrakhan and Buchanan have mentioned things that were true about Hitler that were then used to smear them as Nazi sympathizers, which is true in neither case. I have a lot less respect for Farrakhan than for Buchanan, but both of them at least deserve not to be misrepresented in the press, as does Reverend Wright.

It's also no coincidence that all three tend to speak freely about Israel. The cynic in me says that their controversial views would attract no heat if they were ardent Zionists.

[Roferurse]

Louis Farrakhan is not my enemy. He did not put me in chains, he did not put me in slavery, and he didn't make me this color.

Never knew Wright was a slave...damn he must be old.

[ljq0AYOV]

I don't believe that if Wright is crazy, Obama is therefore crazy

Neither do I, but I do think Obama is going to have to say something on the insinuation by Wright that Obama shares these beliefs, he's just not saying them because he's a politician and trying to get elected (I mean, really, WTF Rev. Wright?!)

[nerohedfrs]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I don't believe that if Wright is crazy, Obama is therefore crazy

Neither do I, but I do think Obama is going to have to say something on the insinuation by Wright that Obama shares these beliefs, he's just not saying them because he's a politician and trying to get elected (I mean, really, WTF Rev. Wright?!) Yeah, that's really, really bad. Like I said, more damage control is needed. Unfortunately, this time Obama's going to have to argue (persuasively) against his pastor. He's gonna have to say, forcefully, that he doesn't believe in the AIDS conspiracy theory, that he doesn't think that God should damn America, etc.

-Arrian

[syptopsygieds]

Now we get to the part where we define "on some level."

Does "on some level" mean that he agrees with Wright that black Americans have generally gotten a raw deal and that US foreign policy has often been seriously ****ed up?

Or does "on some level" mean that he agrees that AIDS was created to harm brown people?

-Arrian

[CamVideoQl]

At some point, I think we all want to know why Obama has been attending this church for twenty years. Okay...no guilt by association, but twenty years? Surely there is eithier more to Rev Wright than we know......or more to Obama than we know.