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Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Another self-proclaimed authority on all things romantic talking out of their arse. Well, that's why I posted it. I wanted to hear what a real authority like you had to say about it ![]() I don't know if you've read it, but she's not saying "be an arrogant *******, and you'll score more". |
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Nice guys vs jerks
> The debate of "nice guys vs. jerks" has been raging for quite a long time. The nature of being a "nice guy", however, is commonly misunderstood. It is believed that being polite, considerate, friendly, tender, romantic, etc. is what being a "nice guy" is all about and thus those qualities should be avoided, as it is the "jerk", the rude, the inconsiderate, the impolite, the rough guy who always gets the girl while the "nice guy" is waiting outside in the pouring rain with flowers in his hand. It doesn't mean that women prefer rude over polite, inconsiderate over considerate, etc. It all becomes clear when we look at a very important issue often overlooked when trying to define what makes the "jerks" beat the "nice guys" when it comes to getting the girls. It is sexuality - the "jerks" are not afraid to show that they are sexual beings, while the "nice guys" hide their sexuality as a part of their agenda of being friendly, polite, and courteous towards women. Peta, Clifford's Seduction Newsletter: "It dawned on me as it has, that the androgyny is key. Women fall for bastards because they don't turn off the sexuality.. "nice" guys think women will be terrified of their sexuality, so they turn it off and all they get is women responding to their androgyny [sending all nice guys to LJBF-land]" The above is far more concise, and spot on. |
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Originally posted by Dauphin
What is said as final analysis about insecurity is fine. I don't see why that applies to "Nice Guys" any more than any other group though. In fact the whole description of nice guys appears to focus on a subset who by definition have self-worth issues. People can be nice guys and be happy, secure and well adjusted. Exactly. You can be nice to girls without being a Nice Guy, in the sense portrayed here. The nice guy portrayed here is too nice, he's nice to the point of being submissive. And if he's like that, it stems from his underlying insecurity and lack of confidence in himself. |
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Originally posted by Nostromo
They are so anxious to be liked and loved that they do things for other people to gain acceptance and attention, rather than for the simply pleasure of giving. Why bother reading the rest when the author starts from this baseless assumption? What if a substantial number of Nice Guys are genuinely altruistic? |
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Originally posted by Dauphin
The more amusing comment is about "Nice Guys" writing in to complain about women not liking them. As if a person is going to write in and say: "Dear Mrs A Aunt, may I first say that after seeing your profile picture in the paper... well, I would hit it. Anyway, I am a self-professed complete bastard with lecherous tendencies. I think about sex all the time and can't help but grope women, or at least make sexually suggestive comments, at every available opportunity. Normally after I have done my girlfriend several ways til Sunday in a way that only gratified me, I leave to watch the football or have a few beers with my playa mates - I usually can't be arsed to say goodbye or even call her until the next time I wanted sex on tap. When I did, she said no and that she wanted me to show her more respect. She has now left me for some accountant, the *****. I was going to dump her anyway as she doesn't cook my dinner on time AND she refused to do the washing, even after I gave a whack with the back of my hand. What on earth do women see in nice guys who treat 'em with 'respect'? Women are trippin'. Why won't my relationships last?" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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sometimes i can be the nicest guy on the planet Earth. But if I catch somebody giving me continued disrespect I will turn into a gigantic jerk. In my mind I am completely justified at being a jerk because the other person started it by taking advantage of my kindness...
i have a very short temper at times. otherwise, yes, i am a nice guy... ![]() |
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Originally posted by Lorizael
On topic, the OP talks about a lot of problems I know I have with the fairer sex. But it is, in the end, discussing a stereotype. More than one stereotype, in fact. People are individuals. Being awfully nice certainly can work at times - it depends on the individuals involved. Being insecure rarely works, though. Correct, Oil and water dont mix Day and night dont mix light dispels darkness However, once in awhile two who most would think cant work, do fit together likes peas in a pod. |
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