[in4wikiu]

I guess I just hate the way everything transpired. From the campaign's ridiculous moves - stating the campaign was over and then throwing another money bomb? WTF? For the delegates? The ones that were ignored since RP didn't even have a presence at the convention. We were told for so long about the delegate strategy and people worked very hard on this and the campaign just left them hanging. Then one day after the campaigns announcement that confused EVERY supporter, Rand publicly endorses Romney. At that point I assumed that meant that Rand would be chosen as VP, but now we know that was not the case, so why? So many of us put a lot into this. I donated a lot of money and I have a bad feeling about all of it.

Now I wonder if it was all part of the strategy to gather all the Libertarians via RP. If TPTB wanted a Romney presidency they could have put Rand in there as running mate to get the L vote. If TPTB wants a Obama presidency, put a neocon in there that Libertarians would never vote for and that would seal it for Obama. I truly believe that there are enough of us that it could have made a difference, but now most will either not vote or will vote for Johnson. Either way it will put Obama in office but what's the difference anyhow...we know they are both the same. I can't believe people are still doing the L/R thing.

[VladFal]

I agree whole heartedly vacuum, it wasn't a totally wasted exercise at all and through the last 2 election cycles many have learned and been awakened to much.

After it's all been said and done this is tantamount to tilting at windmills and I can't, won't do it anymore. I've said it on another thread or two but this is my last dance, I'll vote for GJ and then take back my registration and with it one more tiny step of poofing myself from the system. The hell of it is I don't feel defeated, just mad as a motherfucker, not so much at RP but the GOP/RNC/PTB's and me thinks I should stay very far away from them and they from me, in all of our better interests.

[ENCOSEARRALIA]

There was a simplest example of electronic voting fraud that I saw once where they simply reversed the votes.

So if you vote Obama things could work out for you.

It's called "algorthmic vote flipping" (sp)...there were times during the primaries that RP got screwed because of it. Maybe not reversing votes but like a 2 for 1 swap.

[Doctorpills]

I guess I just hate the way everything transpired. From the campaign's ridiculous moves - stating the campaign was over and then throwing another money bomb? WTF? For the delegates? The ones that were ignored since RP didn't even have a presence at the convention. We were told for so long about the delegate strategy and people worked very hard on this and the campaign just left them hanging. Then one day after the campaigns announcement that confused EVERY supporter, Rand publicly endorses Romney. At that point I assumed that meant that Rand would be chosen as VP, but now we know that was not the case, so why? So many of us put a lot into this. I donated a lot of money and I have a bad feeling about all of it.

Now I wonder if it was all part of the strategy to gather all the Libertarians via RP. If TPTB wanted a Romney presidency they could have put Rand in there as running mate to get the L vote. If TPTB wants a Obama presidency, put a neocon in there that Libertarians would never vote for and that would seal it for Obama. I truly believe that there are enough of us that it could have made a difference, but now most will either not vote or will vote for Johnson. Either way it will put Obama in office but what's the difference anyhow...we know they are both the same. I can't believe people are still doing the L/R thing.

Personally, I think the original deal was for Rand to be VP. But the reaction from all of Ron Paul's supporters was so strongly against it that they realized it wouldn't work. Either that or they stabbed the Pauls in the back. Is this the reason why RP's campaign did so much weird stuff? I have no idea.

[xochgtlm]

Personally, I think the original deal was for Rand to be VP. But the reaction from all of Ron Paul's supporters was so strongly against it that they realized it wouldn't work. Either that or they stabbed the Pauls in the back. Is this the reason why RP's campaign did so much weird stuff? I have no idea.

I do know one thing for a fact, we were doing really good and then RP had that "breakfast" with bernankem and very shortly after that the wheels started to really fall off the train.

[PVaQlNaP]

Personally, I think the original deal was for Rand to be VP. But the reaction from all of Ron Paul's supporters was so strongly against it that they realized it wouldn't work. Either that or they stabbed the Pauls in the back. Is this the reason why RP's campaign did so much weird stuff? I have no idea.

It could be. I've thought about that.

[WGRocky]

I do know one thing for a fact, we were doing really good and then RP had that "breakfast" with bernankem and very shortly after that the wheels started to really fall off the train.

Maybe Bernanke reminded RP of Executive Order 11110, issued by JFK in July 1963. If you're a real danger to them, TPTB will shoot you dead.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post570154

RP maybe doesn't want to be a martyr.


Hatha

[rxnixoncom]

Maybe Bernanke reminded RP of Executive Order 11110, issued by JFK in July 1963. If you're a real danger to them, TPTB will shoot you dead.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post570154

RP maybe doesn't want to be a martyr.


Hatha

Or....we won't harm you at all RP, we'll keep you very safe and sound but those you love may not be so fortunate, say for the next 50 years. In fact there's towns and cities where people you love, you know those American Constitutional type live, oh what the hell, we don't care who gets killed or how many, you should know that!

Maybe he's a silent martyr?

[w4WBthjv]

Here is an interesting perspective on RP's bounce at the Republican convemtion, although it was writen in 2007--so it covers two Rep conventions:

http://fskrealityguide.blogspot.com/...ankruptcy.html

Here's the pertinent part from it:
A bankruptcy proceeding cannot continue forever. At some point, either the creditors convert their debt to equity or a liquidation occurs.

A conversion from debt to equity would involve a repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and a repeal of the 16th amendment. That isn't going to happen. That is the hope of Ron Paul's campaign supporters. If the creditor decides to convert his debt to equity, he will allow Ron Paul to be elected President and pass his reforms.

The purpose of Ron Paul's presidential campaign is not to convert the debt to equity. The purpose is to announce the liquidation. When Ron Paul is cheated out of the Republican nomination, it will be obvious to everyone that it is time for a liquidation. (Maybe not everyone, just those people who are smart enough to count for anything.)

The creditors of the US bankruptcy proceeding have decided that they prefer a liquidation over equity in the US government. Pretty soon, the US government is going to be denied bankruptcy protection. All world governments have declared bankruptcy and surrendered to the international banking cartel. All world governments are going to be liquidated, not just the US government.

I believe that the Supreme Leader of Humanity and the leaders of the international banking cartel have decided that it is time for the final liquidation of this bankruptcy proceeding. They are intentionally allowing the coming agorist revolution to occur, so the US government can finally be liquidated. They will allow the current system to survive until the replacement system is in place. An agorist revolution should be mostly peaceful, so there probably won't be a lot of casualties during the transition. The violence will come from red market agents resisting the liquidation. Hatha

[vicgirl]

I saw RP on Jay leno the other nite and I just wanted to fricken puke.........this man got rail roaded at the convention AGAIN andf he was still talking in soft fluffy terms about the GOP establishment ............. I wanted to smack the living sh!t out of him not for me but the millions that donated their time energy and resources only to see it all get flushed down the toliet.

Millions spent on ad slots that did nothing but enrich the media giants that further controlled and choked the message of Freedom and now after everything is said and done the giant firestorm has finally been snuffed out.

The very LEAST he could have done was tell the truth saying he got shafted and your time is better spent forming small independant actions centers to take over local politics.

Nope.......... all he did was pelt flowers at the GOP.

I know Alot of people tend to give RP a pass based on his 40 years of work in Washington but I gotta defer to my Momma on this one: Its not how you start out or what happens mid journey ....... its all in how you finish that counts.

This man new what deal was and played his part to the fricken tee.

I hope he enjoys whatever the Overlords promised to him.

For those willing to look logically at his words versus his deed The gaping inconsistency will be laid bare.

He is a Turncoat and I Hope History will not be kind to him.......

[Anckzxik]

Titan - Law 29 of 48 - plan all the way to the end. Assuming Dr. Paul was not compromised, he violated said law. The outcome is the same, either way.

[Teomaderm]

It just wasn't the same campaign after that lunch with Bernanke.

[BV6lwvXf]

I propose the next presidential ticket: JCarvingblock/HathaSunahara


All my problems would be solved with that ticket in office

[finasteridonline]

I hate to disappoint anybody, but if I had a choice between politician and toilet scrubber, I'd feel much better (and cleaner) with the toilets.


Hatha