[steevyjeors]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxaBq...layer_embedded

Lead Attorney for the National Delegates Case, Richard Gilbert addresses Mitt Romney’s criminal acts including his taking of money from foreign Israel contributors illegally, and his support of internment camp policies. Mr. Gilbert warns Romney of his election fraud crimes and that he should be ready to be arrested when he shows up in Tampa or harms a Ron Paul delegate at the national “organized crime convention.” Watch video below.



http://electionfraudremedy.com/

[oyymoss]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxaBq...layer_embedded

Lead Attorney for the National Delegates Case, Richard Gilbert addresses Mitt Romney’s criminal acts including his taking of money from foreign Israel contributors illegally, and his support of internment camp policies. Mr. Gilbert warns Romney of his election fraud crimes and that he should be ready to be arrested when he shows up in Tampa or harms a Ron Paul delegate at the national “organized crime convention.” Watch video below.



http://electionfraudremedy.com/

sorry, cant take this jag serious with hair like that

[Lerpenoaneway]

sorry, cant take this jag serious with hair like that

Spoken like a true blue Romney man.

It's the hair that does it for some.

[Dominick Yo]

The problem of Tyranny has never been solved with non violence in the entire history of the human race. Peple who think RP can save us are living in denial.

These criminals poison our food and water, they send swarms of Agents to eat out our substance, they tax-regulate-license and control every facet of your life, They degenerate our childrens minds and values and they bomb innocent civilians all over the world in our name.

Do you honestly think these criminals are going to go way willingly?

In fact, behind every single action of the system is a GUN. EVERY FUCKING TIME.


Tyrants, Despots and Ruling Criminals throughout history LOVE the idea that you think you can change the system with non violence.

Looking back on history, we see violence going all the way back. People are ruled, then then rise up against the ruler or they invade or defend their nation. It seems to me that even though there is a temporary boost to freedom through such uprisings, in the long term, it doesn't change anything. Otherwise, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in today because there have been so many wars for freedom and religion previously, surely things would have been fixed by now?

And think about who does all the dieing during these uprisings. It's always a bunch of peasants killing a bunch of other peasants.

I think things are intentionally engineered to get us to kill each other and destroy ourselves as much as possible. It starts with polarization into two sides, then a provocation to get them to fight each other.

We have to figure out a way to break the pattern that's been occurring for thousands of years.

[Qdkczrdi]

hm, weird thread warp

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edit: oh, it's because the threads were merged while I was typing....lol

[Paybeskf]

Looking back on history, we see violence going all the way back. People are ruled, then then rise up against the ruler or they invade or defend their nation. It seems to me that even though there is a temporary boost to freedom through such uprisings, in the long term, it doesn't change anything. Otherwise, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in today because there have been so many wars for freedom and religion previously, surely things would have been fixed by now?

And think about who does all the dieing during these uprisings. It's always a bunch of peasants killing a bunch of other peasants.

I think things are intentionally engineered to get us to kill each other and destroy ourselves as much as possible. It starts with polarization into two sides, then a provocation to get them to fight each other.

We have to figure out a way to break the pattern that's been occurring for thousands of years.

WoW Intelligence.. rare but here none the less. I Almost feel pride in your word choice of answer.

[Worseacar]

Why the GOP Is Scared of Ron Paul and 4 Reasons He Might Still Get the 2012 Republican Nomination

Wait, isn't Dr. Ron Paul out of the presidential race? Isn't it all tied up nicely in a bow with the Romney/Ryan ticket?

No.

Why would the GOP be scared of Ron Paul but end up nominating him?

I'll explain.

Romney and the GOP have demonstrated both poor judgment and poor sportsmanship that might cost them by damaging Romney's electability among the Ron Paul supporters thus leading to a splitting of votes, which in turn, could cost the GOP the entire election.

Dr. Ron Paul is still in the race for president and is a strong contender for the 2012 GOP nomination.

To be on the GOP ballot Aug. 27, 2012 in Tampa and get a 15-minute speaking slot, a candidate must have won the plurality (majority) of delegates in at least 5 states.

Well, Ron Paul did win the plurality of delegates in 5 states, enough to be eligible for the nomination and a 15-minute speaking slot at the GOP convention. The states he won are Louisiana, Iowa, Minnesota, Maine and Nevada. Then Ron Paul went on to win the plurality in Massachusetts, Romney's home state and half the delegates in Oregon. Dr. Ron Paul also has around 500 delegates who support him. The exact number of delegates that Romney and Paul have is still a mystery but should be clarified at the convention.

So... Ron Paul won his 5-plus states, he's on the ballot and writing his speech, right? Not exactly.

What happened next is what may cost the Republicans and Romney the entire election. Instead of accepting that Ron Paul, the GOP underdog, had won enough delegates in enough states to be allowed his rightful place on the ballot and his 15-minute speaking slot, the GOP and Romney's people decided to try and take these legitimate wins away from Ron Paul and his supporters. Ron Paul supporters fought hard, played fair and won. Romney supporters didn't play fair and still lost those 5-plus states. These Ron Paul pluralities were won in spite of shenanigans and tricks tried by Romney supporters and the GOP to prevent or undermine Ron Paul wins. The Ron Paul supporters were well prepared and won the needed amount of states anyway.

So, how did Romney and his supporters handle their losses of five measly states to Ron Paul? Honorably? Graciously? With dignity? Maturely?

No. Quite the opposite.

Romney's people ran to Big Daddy GOP to rescue them from their defeats by trying to disqualify the valid Ron Paul delegates and to take away Ron Paul's right to speak and be on the ballot by reducing his states won to fewer than the five needed.

So far, Romney and the GOP have contested the Ron Paul wins in Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts and Oregon. They threw out the Massachusetts Ron Paul delegates after the GOP tried to force the delegates to sign a long legal document that required them to vote for Romney. This was not something that had ever been done before. The GOP allowed Romney, big lawyers and big bullying to invalidate Ron Paul's solid win in Massachusetts.

As in the other states, the Ron Paul delegates in Maine played by the rules and won. Even Governor LePage of Maine, a Republican, is appalled with GOP efforts to throw out the duly-elected Ron Paul delegates.

The entire plot to reduce Ron Paul wins to under five states to take his name off the ballot and take away his 15-minute speaking slot is well under way. If Romney/Ryan are so great, why can't they handle a little competition without whining and crying like sore losers?

Are they afraid of losing the 2012 nomination to Ron Paul if he speaks and is on the ballot?

Why not play fair and let the best man win?

Who cheats? The lazy, bratty, insecure and less-qualified people who can't win honestly and fairly. Is that really presidential material?

I wonder if Romney and the GOP are worried that if Ron Paul speaks and gets the nomination, that Ron Paul will fire all of them. Is the GOP that terrified of change, even if it is for the betterment of the country?

Here is why I think that Ron Paul might still walk away with the nomination.

4. Lots of regular "little people", like me, want Ron Paul to be the 2012 GOP presidential candidate. We, the little people, do not like being trod upon and when we join together, we are stronger than big money. Remember, "We the People"? Ron Paul's donors are regular working people, not banks, and military men and women.

3. Ron Paul is the David to Romney's Goliath Machine but the spirit, character and faith of we "little people" count more in America than just money. Romney has raised $152 million to Paul's $39 million. Ron Paul has more passionate support from his supporters due to Ron Paul's character and dedication to serving America and Americans based on our founding principles embodied in our Constitution. Money, media manipulation and bullying can't buy this type of support. But, Romney and his lawyers couldn't let Ron Paul keep 5-plus wins?

2. Ron Paul wants to serve his country, and has served in the military, and would end the wars. Ron Paul's supporters and Americans want someone they can trust and believe in. Dr. Paul is that man.

1. Mitt Romney is much less qualified to be president than Ron Paul, who understands the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Watch this link where Romney is asked a basic Constitutional question and replies, "I'll have to ask my lawyers". Ron Paul tells Mitt Romney, "Read the Constitution." Ron Paul is the only Republican Presidential candidate who is qualified, experienced and credible.

We, little people, similar to Ron Paul and his supporters, work hard, play fair and expect the same from others.

If Romney and his supporters had been gracious losers about Ron Paul's 5-plus state wins and Ron Paul's 15-minute speech, Romney had a chance to garner both the GOP 2012 nomination plus the support and votes of Ron Paul and his supporters. (I say "a chance" because many Ron Paul supporters do not see Romney as a fiscal conservative.)

Not anymore. It is hard to vote for someone who has acted so dishonorably, even for the sake of party loyalty.

The misguided Machiavellian advice Romney got and took to "win at all costs," may cost him dearly in November due to the bad will generated with Ron Paul supporters. Too many people have lost too much respect for Romney to vote for him. To the contrary, even though Ron Paul's campaign was repeatedly slighted and undermined by Romney and his supporters, Ron Paul stayed gracious and denounced mistreatment of Romney. He has told his delegates to "Make yourself heard but be respectful."

By playing dirty and being greedy, Romney supporters may have lost Romney both the nomination and the election.

Romney and the national GOP are showing their ugly colors by attempting to take away Ron Paul state delegate wins that were earned fair and square.

In speaking with some Ron Paul supporters, here is their current plan. If Ron Paul doesn't win the 2012 GOP nomination, many Ron Paul supporters will elect to vote for Gary Johnson, the Libertarian presidential candidate. Why wouldn't Ron Paul supporters write in Ron Paul on ballots around the country? For those write-in votes to count, a write-in candidate must be listed in every state and some Ron Paul supporters do not know if their Ron Paul votes would count.

And, due to the shabby treatment Ron Paul and his supporters have received from the GOP and Romney's people, many Ron Paul supporters may refuse to vote for Romney in 2012, even if it means Obama being re-elected for four more years. One supporter told me, "I want the GOP to see how many votes they lost by playing dirty. They will only be able to count all the lost votes if I vote for Gary Johnson."

If you want to learn more about Gary Johnson click here. He stands for small government, government staying out of your business, liberty and fiscal responsibility. He is like Ron Paul without the Roe v Wade concern. Gary Johnson has had virtually no media coverage so you may not have heard of him.

As I heard in grammar school and it remains true: "Cheat, Cheat Never Beat".

Ron Paul is the only qualified person for the 2012 Republican Nomination who can unify conservative Republicans and stabilize the economy. If the GOP is smart and humble enough to do a mea culpa and nominate Ron Paul, Republicans stand a better chance of winning in November. If Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination, many Ron Paul supporters will likely be voting for Gary Johnson. All Romney and the GOP had to do was play fair and win honorably, but I guess that was too much to ask.

But here is the GOP's conflict: If the GOP nominates Ron Paul and he wins, many of the GOP cronies will be shown the door. There will be a big house cleaning of corrupt politicians, like turning on the lights and the cockroaches scatter. On the other hand, if they don't nominate Ron Paul, they risk losing all the Ron Paul supporters, which would likely split the vote and lose the 2012 election entirely.

It is hard to make those type of decisions when choosing what is best for the country doesn't figure in at all, but choosing what is best for their own selfish principles of self-preservation, greed and thirst for power rule the day.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-...b_1814846.html

[Polopolop]

Looking back on history, we see violence going all the way back. People are ruled, then then rise up against the ruler or they invade or defend their nation. It seems to me that even though there is a temporary boost to freedom through such uprisings, in the long term, it doesn't change anything. Otherwise, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in today because there have been so many wars for freedom and religion previously, surely things would have been fixed by now?

And think about who does all the dieing during these uprisings. It's always a bunch of peasants killing a bunch of other peasants.

I think things are intentionally engineered to get us to kill each other and destroy ourselves as much as possible. It starts with polarization into two sides, then a provocation to get them to fight each other.

We have to figure out a way to break the pattern that's been occurring for thousands of years.

I dont think the cycle can be broken......... there will always be at least one person who get the crazy idea they he should rule over the rest and will set about making that a reality and will use every tool at his disposal.

I think in a big cosmic sense there inherently has to be some form of conflict.

Not meaning to make this religious but think about the story about the fall of man. God "knew" that eventually the apple would be bitten and if so why did he put in there in the first place A conflict was going to rise out of our Paradise.

I think biggest concept that we have to grasp is life is not linear.....life is circular, hence it will always repeat

[Eromaveabeara]

I dont think the cycle can be broken......... there will always be at least one person who get the crazy idea they he should rule over the rest and will set about making that a reality and will use every tool at his disposal.

I think in a big cosmic sense there inherently has to be some form of conflict.

Not meaning to make this religious but think about the story about the fall of man. God "knew" that eventually the apple would be bitten and if so why did he put in there in the first place A conflict was going to rise out of our Paradise.

I think biggest concept that we have to grasp is life is not linear.....life is circular, hence it will always repeat

It's not linear, but it's not quite circular either. It's more of an ascending spiral...it repeats itself, but each time it's a little different, and hopefully leading somewhere.

There are many cycles, and cycles within cycles. This period over the last x thousands of years of war has been one big cycle and inside of it, each individual conflict has been a smaller cycle that has been repeating itself. But I don't think it can go on forever. I think the conflict will eventually change from what it has been. I don't know what the new struggle will be, I agree it will definitely exist in some manner.

Personally, if it truly is a circular cycle that cannot be broken, I see it as pointless and don't wish to be a part of it. I wouldn't want to help perpetuate such insanity.

[anaisdannyxys]

Be sure that the delegates are aware of this:

Mitt Romney’s Abortion Business Made Him $50M
by Karen Fish

Truth is stranger than fiction. You can’t make this stuff up because nobody would believe you. Mitt Romney’s business record is his chief qualification to be President, he says. Did you know that Mitt Romney’s business was the abortion business, from which he made $50 Million burning aborted fetuses through his company Stericycle?

When Mitt Romney was sworn in as Governor of Massachusetts on Jan. 2, 2003 he was Pro Choice. Mitt Romney was so pro choice that he was in the abortion business. Did Mitt Romney campaign when he ran for Governor that his chief qualification to be Governor of Massachusetts was that he was the owner of the largest aborted fetus incineration company in the United States of America? Mitt Romney’s Romneycare, the blueprint for Obamacare provided tax payer funding for abortions, which Obamacare does not. Mitt Romney introduced Romneycare to get the taxpayers to pay him personally as the owner of Stericylce to burn aborted fetuses.

Mitt Romney went on national television on five channels this week to publicly tell the American people that he absolutely left his company Bain Capital in Feb. 1999. When the Huffington Post reported on the Romney abortion scandal earlier this year Mitt Romney’s campaign and Bain friends said that Mitt had nothing to do with it because Mitt left Bain Capital in Feb. 1999 and they knew that Romney’s companies did not buy Stericycle until November 1999 when Mitt had severed ties with Bain Capital they said.

Now David Corn a brilliant hard hitting journalist for Mother Jones in the mold of Woodward and Bernstein, Redford and Hoffman who uncovered the Watergate scandal that proved that Richard Nixon was a b & e artist and chased him from the White House, David Corn has uncovered documents which show that Mitt Romney signed personally for the purchase of Stericycle in Nov. 1999, had sole voting and dispositive power and on the Bain Capital 2002 SEC filing Mitt Romney is listed as the sole shareholder, CEO, President, and Fetus Burner.

Mitt Romney is only going to release his 2010 and 2011 tax returns he just told America. When in 2008 Mitt Romney auditioned to become war hero Senator John McCain’s Vice President pick Mitt provided John McCain with 23 years of his tax returns which show exactly when and how Mitt Romney made $50 Million on his investment in Stericycle. This is why Senator McCain recently said that Sarah Palin was a better choice for VP than Mitt Romney. The Republican Party, the self proclaimed Pro Life party is running Mitt Romney, the biggest owner of the fetus disposal arm of the nation’s abortion clinics.

Mitt Romney’s business record is his chief qualification to be President, he says. Since when did outsourcing jobs to China and disposing of fetuses put a person in a position to continue pulling the American economy out of the ditch George W. Bush drove it into by cutting Mitt Romney’s taxes and waging two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan paid for with trillions of dollars of borrowed and printed money taking us from the Clinton surplus to the Bush jobs depression?

In case the GOP wakes up and runs Mitt Romney out of the country on a rail Mitt will be fine because his abortion millions are stored in Bermuda, the Cayman Islands and Switzerland safe from the arms of the tax man. To now tell the American people that he is pro life, you have to admire Mitt Romney’s chutzpah or just ask yourself if he is just a plain ordinary bully, liar and sociopath. The real question is why are we [ anyone?? ] still listening to Mitt Romney let alone voting for him?

[VUzgOhgv]

Romney May Be Nominated Early


"TAMPA, Fla. – Mitt Romney’s quest to formally win the Republican Party’s presidential nomination may come two days earlier.
Plans are underway for Mr. Romney to be nominated on Monday – not Wednesday as previously thought – because of a potential threat from Tropical Storm Isaac and concerns about a possible disruption during the roll call vote from Ron Paul supporters at the Republican National Convention next week."

"As soon as Mr. Romney officially becomes the party’s presidential nominee, he can have access to the general election money he has spent months raising..."

"The campaign had hoped that the television networks would cover the convention on Monday because Ann Romney is delivering her marquee speech that evening, but so far the networks have declined."

"While Mr. Paul’s advisers have worked behind-the-scenes with the Romney campaign for months, several supporters have signaled their interest in making their admiration known for Mr. Paul on the convention floor. The Romney campaign has worked through most of the concerns, but leaned toward officially calling the roll of delegates on Monday, when television networks were not planning to broadcast the convention to diminish the potential for any fireworks.

Republican officials said that schedule of the roll call vote could resolve two potential problems: from Mr. Paul’s supporters and the winds and rain of Isaac."

[Opinion_counts]

The Ron Paul delegates (and stealth supporters in other delegations) need to figure out how to turn this "liability" into an "asset". Any ideas? Post them here.

1. Get all Ron Paul supporters (official delegates and sympathetic other delegates) to just not show up on Monday in protest of the rule changes.

[bWxNFI3c]

RNC attempts to make Ron Paul ineligible for Republican nomination

"The Republican National Committee's Rules Committee voted Wednesday to makes changes to their nomination process before the RNC's 2012 convention next week. John Ryder, a Tennessee committee member, attempted to change the nomination rules so that a candidate would need to have won a plurality of delegates from 10 states instead of five. Ron Paul, a Republican from Texas who has a large following, would then not be able to be nominated from the floor as a Republican candidate for President.

Ryder claimed that he wanted to eliminate "distractions" at the Republican convention..."

"...Morton Blackwell, a committee member from Virginia, opposed the measure. "All we are talking about here -– let's put it frankly -- is the possibility that somebody like Ron Paul would be denied the possibility, after he carried five states, to have his name placed into nomination," Blackwell said. "This is a very bad idea. And we have got to, in this party, treat newcomers fairly. This would be taken as a slap in the face to grassroots people," he said.

Five remains the number of states a Republican potential nominee needs to have won in order to be a potential presidential candidate, however there was a change to the nomination process made Wednesday. Delegates must indicate in writing at least one hour before they vote whom they intend to nominate."

[Indian Butt Magic]

Ron Paul at the RNC: Forget Hurricane Isaac, Hurricane Paul is the Real Storm That is Brewing

[PristisoliTer]

P.A.U.L. People Awakening & United For Liberty Festival Kicks Off In 14 Hours
August 23, 2012
By Lawrence SinclairIn 14 hours,

Friday August 24, 2012 even before the first session of the RNC begins a voice which clamors louder and louder with each passing hour will begin to shout from within the confines of what is known as the Tampa/St. Pete area. A voice that says the time has come for all Americans who believe in Liberty and the constitution to join forces and put an end to the two party system which continues to ignore the will of We the People.

P.A.U.L. People Awakening & United for Liberty Festival begins the Florida State Fair grounds in Tampa, Florida today. While the festival is honoring Texas Congressman Ron Paul and what he has done over his career to sound the warning bells and bring Americans the energy and knowledge which is the Liberty Movement, its not a Ron Paul festival. Its a festival designed to bring together people of every background, income level and state to work together in bringing about a real change in the current political system which to many Americans, has become nothing more than a changing of name every two, four or six years.

The line up at P.A.U.L. Fest brings the brightest and best the cause of Liberty has to offer in a venue and time that so many turn away in frustration. Before the Republican national Convention even gets off its opening gavel people from every walk of life and political affiliation will gather to send out the sounds of Liberty over party in a way that neither political party can or will be able to do.

Liberty is about making real change, and getting away from all the old party back slaps and greasing of each others palms. Liberty is about getting spending under control and doing away with the Fed.

So if you want to have your voice heard, if you want to learn just what the Liberty Movement is all about, please feel free to join them at the Florida State Fair grounds at 4800 US Hwy 301 North, Tampa, FL today thru Sunday.

http://www.lsnewsgroup.com/2012/08/2...cks-off-today/

[foI3fKWv]

Gag me with a spoon...

"TAMPA, Florida (AP) - A group of Maine Republicans supportive of Texas congressman Ron Paul for president have been ejected from the state's national convention delegation...

According to a tally by The Associated Press, Paul won 177 delegates to the national convention...


Paul was not expected to address the convention, but his son, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, is expected to speak."

[KLIMOV25gyi]

Maine governor won't attend GOP convention

"AUGUSTA, Maine—Maine Gov. Paul LePage says he's decided not to attend the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla."

"...The governor, one of Maine's 24 delegates to the convention, says he believes all of the Maine delegates who were selected at the Maine GOP Convention in May should be seated in Tampa. LePage says it's unfortunate that not all of those delegates will be seated."

[TheBestCheapestOEM]

The problem of Tyranny has never been solved with non violence in the entire history of the human race. People who think RP can save us are living in denial.

right, tyranny calls for bloody revolutions, mere historical facts, but in the long run have the bloodshed resolved anything since tyranny always changes the rules of the game as it does see fit and that masses can help themselves but fall into the trap...

So saying that violence can address tyranny is a moot point. It works for a little while only. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting same results (quote). Non-cooperation is better in my view.

Until my 8,000+ GM postings were deleted overnight, I used to believe in RP... I made a U-turn 2 years ago. I dont believe in gold/silver neither as the cartel has most gold/silver already. And will redesign the gold/silver game when world fiat currencies are dead... they have done this for centuries, throughout antiquity and the middle ages. If history is any indication...

In fact, behind every single action of the system is a GUN. EVERY FUCKING TIME. being armed is a wise solution... I reckon.

Tyrants, Despots and Ruling Criminals throughout history LOVE the idea that you think you can change the system with non violence. I wouldnt say that they love non-violence but big organizations which they finance like move on, occupy wall street, etc to make masses believe that they have a say... but they hate individual non-compliance and self-sufficiency.

I definitely go by the buckmister-fuller quote in my sig.

[gIWnXYkw]

RNC Confirms Ron Paul Will Be Up For Presidential Nomination In Tampa

"The GOP has confirmed that Ron Paul will be on the slate as a potential Republican nominee for President in Tampa Bay on August 26.
Don’t look now but tens of millions of Americans who don’t follow the real news online are going to be in for one hell of surprise when the find out the media has been lying to them about Romney having sealed the GOP nomination for President for 2012.


As the alternative media has been reporting for months, the media has just been outright lying about all kinds of things that is when they weren’t just outright ignoring the facts to begin with."