[mobbemeatiedy]

mark 'Hispanic / Latino' and receive affirmative action. I suggest gringos stand in the sun for 30min before attempting this Nice. I like your sense of humor.

[NiliSpuppypax]

I don't think you've thought this through Skirnir, you can't just appear in any country and expect to be accepted and for life to go on as normal, even if you have legal status or not. I'll grant that you have a high IQ but in this instance you're common sense quotient is nill and your real life experience is the same. They'll eat you alive and you'll be the newbie gringo, suntan and all. You're better off staying in the states in a small town or out in the country, off grid.

[Pippoles]

Skinir? your smart part is to check it out with a second lawyer, that's how I lost my ranch in Argentina..... for now I am staying right here for many reasons.......like.....soon it will be my property 100%, how will I get rid of all my silver?, how will I transfer the cash to a foreign country?, what could I do with my property here?, what would I do with all my seven or eight years of food?...........and of course, what would I do with my 1,741 rolls of tp......besides all the other goodies that I have put away.

[hopertveyk]

Shit Ponce, you have built yourself a jail of toilet paper, food and silver!

[kilibry]

Skinir? your smart part is to check it out with a second lawyer, that's how I lost my ranch in Argentina..... for now I am staying right here for many reasons.......like.....soon it will be my property 100%, how will I get rid of all my silver?, how will I transfer the cash to a foreign country?, what could I do with my property here?, what would I do with all my seven or eight years of food?...........and of course, what would I do with my 1,741 rolls of tp......besides all the other goodies that I have put away.

Shit Ponce, you have built yourself a jail of toilet paper, food and silver!

Neuro, what ponce is not saying is that if it gets real bad, he will use his bug out boat!

(The one he did not have a 'boating accident' with!)

[Old-old-Ivy]

I have yet to see anyone address the most important question of all: Armaments.

What are you going to do for weapons used for self defense? What are Paraguay's gun Laws?

[Kuncher]

I have yet to see anyone address the most important question of all: Armaments.

What are you going to do for weapons used for self defense? What are Paraguay's gun Laws?

That is something to ask the lawyer. I'll see what I can find; a google search suggests that they are on the liberal side, and there is enough corruption to streamline things.

[Unakjyfk]

That is something to ask the lawyer. I'll see what I can find; a google search suggests that they are on the liberal side, and there is enough corruption to streamline things.

I'm sure you could even hire your own personal armed security entourage on the cheap, if need be.

[WFSdZuP3]

Doug Casey covered this topic at length.

anmd his point of view was that down in S. America, and Central America to a lesser extent.

People do not respect or trust the govt, especially Argentina, uruguay (currency collapse, 2000)

So Govt officials are not trusted, tax collectors,

Casey makes the argument, that a general populace that ridicules, and refuses to trust the govt is the best u can hope for...

versus the U.S. where govt officials are gods

[VarenHokalos]

Skinir - look me up in a few years should you make it to Paraguay. I plan on owning my first property in Chile before 2014. What's a quick 25 hour bus ride among internet acquaintances?

[khjhkfggt]

I'm sure you could even hire your own personal armed security entourage on the cheap, if need be.

the trick is making sure their loyalty is more than one inch deep.

[SteantyjetMaw]

my 2 cents. the conspiracy is global at this point; there is no getting away from it. if you are looking to remove yourself from people, etc. that can be done here for much less expense. good luck.

[cheesypeetyz]

my 2 cents. the conspiracy is global at this point; there is no getting away from it. if you are looking to remove yourself from people, etc. that can be done here for much less expense. good luck.

But you might still escape any immediate implications to "yourself".

Or as "Kiyosaki" says, consume, or be consumed.

I'm reminded of Hyena stealing a quick piece away while Lions dine.

[LsrSRVxR]

Skinir - look me up in a few years should you make it to Paraguay. I plan on owning my first property in Chile before 2014. What's a quick 25 hour bus ride among internet acquaintances?

^ This is awesome. ^

[DrunkMans]

my 2 cents. the conspiracy is global at this point; there is no getting away from it. if you are looking to remove yourself from people, etc. that can be done here for much less expense. good luck.

As has been pointed out earlier in this thread, one will ALWAYS be considered an outsider in a Latin culture. If one has not fully assimilated into the local culture (which takes many years, it took a relative of mine over 10-12 years to be 'fully' assimilated, and after over 20 years he STILL has to send a local out to buy some things so he doesn't get 'the gringo price') then one is hosed when sugar turns to shit. Best to be around your own kind.

Not saying that adapting to Latin culture cannot be done (with Horn as one example), but it takes commitment and working at it full time, all the time.

[bgsavings]

I do not plan on residing in Paraguay itself; I plan on using the passport as an escape hatch. I am perceived as an outsider in this country too, so on the margin, it is not a consideration.

[Markdogas]

Not saying that adapting to Latin culture cannot be done (with Horn as one example), but it takes commitment and working at it full time, all the time.

Not sure about Paraguay specifically, but Argentinians are whiter in culture than most gringo's, in their mind...

They speak the Perfect Spanish, not my wayward truck driver Spanish.

Culture is a misnomer all in all.

[Chubrehege]

Skinir - look me up in a few years should you make it to Paraguay. I plan on owning my first property in Chile before 2014. What's a quick 25 hour bus ride among internet acquaintances?

Whereabouts in Chile?

[fameintatenly]

The biggest difference I can state between the two "cultures" in a dish.

Its their differences in trust, Spanish law makes no exception for suckers. Lol

The final judgement is probably a more extreme example of who your lawyer knows if things remain in the private realm, if however they progress to the public realm you will receive a quick and decisive verdict, and are (in most cases) more just.

[timgillmoreeztf]

Whereabouts in Chile?

Top choice - La Serena
Middle pick, if I can deal with the cold - Puerto Montt\
Last pick(s) - Iquique/Antofagasta

The top choice is because of the people in the town; very friendly to whites. Beautiful city without being too over the top price wise. I also already have beach front land there. Question is to build on it for myself or to use if for commercial. As Ponce says you need the plan behind the plan behind the plan etc.

There are several variables I don't want to discuss in too much detail with the second pic. One is if I have an investor with me, then there are several farms/vineyards I have been watching in the south. 1 is an almond farm, the other 2 in my eye right now are fully functioning vineyards. Puerto Montt is in an incredible area in South Chile, similar to the PAC NW of USA.

Third is a tough call because I've visited the north several times and I love the arid climate. Iquique is not a safe city by Western standards. Antofagasta is safer but even further north.

At this stage of my possible expat future I've made connections all over Chile. The hard part is deciding where to pull the trigger.

Regardless I plan to own my first apt/house or farm there by 2014 sometime. Residency and all that is pretty easy in Chile. There is a ton of general info and expat community info all over the net.