[66paptroump]

iPod sales quadrupled in the period monitored by Forrester

[L8fGLM4d]

Some 3.2 per cent of online households (around 60 per cent of the wider population) I don't get this.

3.2% of online households make up 60% of the population?

[Munccoughe]

3.2% of your face makes up 60% of the wider online population of YOUR FACE

[Liaiskelile]

They will soon be part of the Virtual Taliban nation.

[Ankeseiband]

Since when was that the point of the thread.

[InvertPrete]

Originally posted by Asher
Since when was that the point of the thread. The point of the thread was for you to go "oh yay bad stuff happening to apple!" so you could troll Mac/iPod users.

[sleelverrex]

Originally posted by Asher


Look at the OP:
Things don't look good for the industry as a whole.

And if I wanted to troll Mac/iPod users, I'd post a thread about that. My iPod is a piece of ****, for instance. It stops working if the temperature is below zero. Did you tried the Zune?

Review seems to be not bad as I could have thought.
The reviews that I've read complained about the installation and the software. But the hardware was great!

After Christmas I will buy a new Mp3 Players(right now, i have a cheap RCA Lyra, which is 2y old but with only 512mb of ram)

I'm looking for a mp3 player who isn't using any piece of software for synchronization. (like Ipod or Sony based mp3). I want to drag/drop files into my mp3 players, like any USB Storage. I've thought of buying the Samsung YP-Z5(which received good review, since the last firmware)

About the topics:

I'm curious about how much is the marginal profits when they sell one Ipod?

Does somebody know the net profit of their Ipod division over their iTunes music division?

[Moupponge]

Asher, I suspect you'd come across as less hostile to apple if you had titled this thread "DRM sales collapsing". Titling it "iTunes sales collapsing" indicated you're focusing on the usual Apple troll...

[Justlovemy]

Perhaps it's a coincidence that my title matches the article's title that the thread is to discuss...

[PolPitasc]

Since when was that the point of the thread.

Let's be honest. This thread has no point...

Anyway, I'd like to get a new iPod, but my four-year old iPod still works so well that I can't justify the expense. Making their product this durable and problem-free just shows that Asher has been right all along about Apple's lack of business-sense...

[Blacksheepaalredy]

Oh, for ****'s sake. Asher posted an interesting article. Take it at face value. Is this the end of DRM music? Are proprietary file formats a dead idea?

[eduptultyt]

It's like the Euros don't even know when the bootheel's on the back of their neck.

[opelayday]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Oh, for ****'s sake. Asher posted an interesting article. Take it at face value. Is this the end of DRM music? Are proprietary file formats a dead idea? But it's Asher and these guys all have a hard on for him...

[Draftcasino.com]

I think it's more an indication of market saturation.

The initial "success" was based on everybody filling out their digital libraries... now, most people that have players and that who are willing to actually buy music, already have the music they want, and are downloading far more selectively.

This coupled with the availablity of pirated music does not bode well for the future of this delivery channel

[Info-phone]

Originally posted by Ming
I think it's more an indication of market saturation.

The initial "success" was based on everybody filling out their digital libraries... now, most people that have players and that who are willing to actually buy music, already have the music they want, and are downloading far more selectively. Agreed. And given the huge amount of crap being released...

[pharmacologist30]

BTW there is a market for downloaded digital media. The free download programs often spread viruses, misnamed software, or just crappy copies so I can see people paying a small amount to get excellent copies of exactly what they want. The problem is Apple and the RIAA have been a greedy SOBs who want to charge MORE then the cost of a CD to get a digital copy of music which can't be played on more then one machine ever. **** that.

The price has to be so low that people will actually be willing to pay it instead of downloading it for free. We're talking something like $0.01-$0.10 per song or maybe a flat rate of $5 per week to download all the music you want. If it is any more expensive then people will just download for free and give Apple/RIAA the finger.

Oh, yeah. They also absolutely must stop the arrogance of trying to force people to buy multiple copies and trying to tell people how they can use music they've already bought. That just pisses people off so they download the free stuff and refuse to pay.

[Nikkytas]

I think the subscription model with reasonably priced downloads (for ownership of specific songs) is the wave of the future.

[Janny2006]

The subscription model is absolutely terrible, IMO. I refuse to buy music that will be held hostage unless I pay again every month.

[Bobdilan]

Ruckus is a good media player. Free if you have a college email account that they accept. Unlimited downloads, but you can only listen on the computer un less you have a compatible player.

Ming:

[Fouttysotlalf]

Originally posted by Ming


That's not the kind of model I'm talking about. I'm talking about "pay a regular fee" and get what you want, and retain the rights to use the music in any non commercial way you want. You think that would ever happen? And I'm skeptical that this would be to the majors' advantage. Pay 60$ a year to download everything you want, DRM-free? No way.