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dodsCooggipsehome 09-21-2012 08:29 AM

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The thread is about older children drinking with baby bottles. Mine did and do and I have seen no adverse effects.
Baby Bottle Tooth Decay - American Dental Association - ADA.org

Pypeassesty 09-21-2012 08:40 AM

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Has anyone else heard of older kids still drinking baby bottles in the DR? I have learned that it is not unheard of for kids as old as 7 still having a bottle before bed time. They still wear pampers to bed too.
Why would this be happening?
The pamper bit is reaching, but the baby bottles fact it is true, I stopped drinking from a biberon at age 4. I've seen kids stopping at 6 or 7. Then they complain why they have their teeth pulled forward..

xFZ3k8Mw 09-21-2012 08:45 AM

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There is no shame for kids here using diapers or bottles until they are 4 or 5. Dominicans think kids should be kids and pay no attention to it.
Diapers until 5 ? Wow!!

Is this 'here' specific to 'here', your house?

There can never be shame in innocence, the child knows no better. The adult responsible for the child is a different matter!

If I made no effort, I would be ashamed of myself.

StoyaFanst 09-21-2012 08:51 AM

What is that supposed to mean Chip?

I am not telling anyone how to raise their children, or insulting anyone for allowing their kids to fall behind or might be taking longer to progress on things, merely giving my opinion on how 'I' feel about my childs development and what is correct for us. Happy she can toilet herself at 2, is using normal cups to drink from and sitting at the table to have a meal, and using only one diaper per day at bed time (when she does have a bottle to send her off), counts to 10 in English and Spanish etc etc etc. I find our daughter has developed fast and if anything is ahead of her years, which I am happy about. So Child development according to me? YES. We are doing good thanks!

Anyway, this is silly and not a competition of who has the best techniques or most developed kids, it is early years, we all develop at different rates as I originally mentioned, and as parents have different ideas of what is important. Good luck with yours.


And FYI the development of a child is usually referred to as Child development Chip, not surprisingly. I was not making a statement I was stating a fact, a norm!

dodsCooggipsehome 09-21-2012 09:25 AM

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A lot of things can cause tooth decay. You guys would have us believe one should only give their kids whole wheat and lettuce apparently.

I don't see that letting one's kids drink milk in a bottle until they are 7 in the DR will have any more adverse effect than them growing up in the States and eating what kids commonly do.

BTW, both my other daughters who both drank milk, mostly chocolate after they were 2, until they were 4 have no cavities. Next.
I think you are missing the point. It's not just milk that people put in the bottles but sweetened drinks. If you give these to children before they go to bed and they fall to sleep and don't brush their teeth their quite likely to have serious tooth decay. It has nothing to do with milk.

Asianunta 09-21-2012 10:38 AM

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64 years old, never given a baby bottle and still find the need to be breastfed......NEXT...

B in Santiago
This answers a question I was going to ask yesterday. If a boy is bottle fed at an older age does he develop a breast fetish?
OOOPS Maybe not.... you were never bottle fed. http://www.dr1.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

StoyaFanst 09-21-2012 10:54 AM

It is not following the crowd chip, it is called child development. As a parent it is my responsibility to help my child progress accordingly through life at a socially acceptable rate, keep up with 'the crowd' so to speak. Allowing my child to fall behind 'the crowd' can lead to indirect and direct issues I would prefer her not to have to encounter, bullying being one of them.
IMO

Asianunta 09-21-2012 11:16 AM

So far already we have a few people who know older kids drinking bottles.
Chip, since your wife is Dominican and had a bottle until the age of seven maybe she can help me understand why.
Keep in mind that I am not judging. This explains why your daughter still has a bottle at the age of 4. You and your wife feel it is OK. Other than because it was OK for your wife as a child why do you feel it necessary for your daughter? Does she drink a bottle in public? Do other family members older kids drink bottles?
Givadang and Chip please don't turn this into a pizzing contest. It can be an interesting and educational thread without the "I gotta be right BS".

Asianunta 09-21-2012 12:05 PM

Older kids drinking baby bottles
 
Has anyone else heard of older kids still drinking baby bottles in the DR? I have learned that it is not unheard of for kids as old as 7 still having a bottle before bed time. They still wear pampers to bed too.
Why would this be happening?

StoyaFanst 09-21-2012 12:27 PM

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Then they complain why they have their teeth pulled forward..
Interesting observation.

dodsCooggipsehome 09-21-2012 12:29 PM

I have seen some older kids 5-6 years old with bottles but it's hardly the norm. Yris usually has around 30 three years olds in her school and not a single one is in diapers. Any child wearing pampers to bed would probably be a bedwetter. There can be many reasons why a kid wets the bed.

iDzcs7TU 09-21-2012 12:36 PM

The only thing to blame is being narrow minded.

iDzcs7TU 09-21-2012 12:52 PM

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I believe chip they were referencing the baby teeth, which can be rotted. Now you and your wife I would imagine meet long after your and her baby teeth were gone. Which means that she took better care of her permanent teeth than you did.

Not just a myth.

Baby Bottle Tooth Decay - American Dental Association - ADA.org

Tooth decay is a disease that begins with cavity-causing bacteria being passed from the mother (or primary caregiver) who has these bacteria in their mouth to the infant. These bacteria are passed through the saliva. When the mother puts the baby’s feeding spoon in her mouth, or cleans a pacifier in her mouth, the bacteria are passed to the baby.

Another factor for tooth decay is the frequent, prolonged exposure of the baby’s teeth to liquids that contain sugar, like sweetened water and fruit juice and potentially milk, breast milk and formula. Tooth decay can occur when the baby is put to bed with a bottle, or when a bottle is used as a pacifier for a fussy baby. The sugary liquids pool around the teeth while the child sleeps. Bacteria in the mouth use these sugars as food. They then produce acids that attack the teeth. Each time your child drinks these liquids, acids attack for 20 minutes or longer. After multiple attacks, the teeth can decay.

Pacifiers dipped in sugar or honey can also lead to tooth decay since the sugar or honey can provide food for the bacteria’s acid attacks.
A lot of things can cause tooth decay. You guys would have us believe one should only give their kids whole wheat and lettuce apparently.

I don't see that letting one's kids drink milk in a bottle until they are 7 in the DR will have any more adverse effect than them growing up in the States and eating what kids commonly do.

BTW, both my other daughters who both drank milk, mostly chocolate after they were 2, until they were 4 have no cavities. Next.

xFZ3k8Mw 09-21-2012 12:52 PM

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I fail to see what damage is done and am sorry you are so narrow minded. You are probably better off raising your kids in sunny ole England where everything is perfect and people know how to behave, especially at football matches.
What??
Ok, 'you fail to see', this is what the initial consensus was about why this happens, parents know no better. I have no doubt you are a fantastic father and do it your way and your children will thrive, with or without a bottle and diapers.
Why you think I am better off raising my child in England at football matches when she is far more developed than some of the examples mentioned on here I'm unsure, but I appreciate the sentiment and consideration you show for my childs development. She is pretty good though, so no need for a football match thanks.

dodsCooggipsehome 09-21-2012 12:55 PM

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The thread is about older children drinking with baby bottles. Mine did and do and I have seen no adverse effects.
Older is not two and four.

StoyaFanst 09-21-2012 02:03 PM

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My wife said she used a bottle until she was 7. My youngest at 4 still uses one and she uses diapers too.

I don't see a problem.
I think kids still sucking on a baby bottle when at school needs addressing, for the kids sakes, unless there is some learning issue. As far as diapers goes, well kids progress at different speeds, ours was out of diapers and taking herself to the bath room not long after her 2nd Bday, she does use one for bedtime, but that is it and is 3 this summer.

rolex-buy 09-21-2012 03:09 PM

My son turned 4 in October and he loves his bottle... he's in JK and I tried everything to get him to give it up... slowly he started wanting it less... went to the DR for this past Christmas & New Years and my husband talked to him showed him other kids his age not drinking bottles and he went himself and threw his bottles in the garbage and since that day he's been a 'big boy'... sometimes I think the kid has to be ready... just like potty training.

Asianunta 09-21-2012 03:25 PM

I am quite certain it is not the norm. I was trying to wrap my head around what would be the reason.
Maybe it is cheaper than food? Maybe if they drink a bottle before bed they need a pamper?
I was just interested if others knew of older kids that do this.
So far we have 2 people who know kids who have bottles at an older age. Interesting.
As an added note. It probably is not just a DR thing. I know a woman in my town who breast fed her son up until he was 7 years old. The kid was almost tall enough to stand up to feed. LOL The woman was strange in other ways too.

xFZ3k8Mw 09-21-2012 03:26 PM

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Nobody that I see is saying its the norm or that this is exclusive to DR, just happens to be a DR forum as I understand it. The OP is going on heresay..and the fact you havent seen it really is meaningless, just saying.
http://www.dr1.com/forums/images/smilies/ermm.gifOpinion and experience builds a picture (I thought this was the request of the OP), asking users their opinion is the same as asking users experiences. My experience of not seeing this reflects my opinion, as it would had it been 'yes, I see it often'. So stressing that a users opinion is meaningless and then commencing to give your own opinion is a direct contradiction in terms, incoherent hypocritical posting, is it not?.http://www.dr1.com/forums/images/smilies/ermm.gif

JohnTruels 09-21-2012 04:30 PM

Maybe the educational system is partly to blame as well.

In Belgium kids have to go to school at the age of 2 1/2 (well, school is a big word... pre-school), and bottles are not allowed. In the first year diapers are still allowed but kids are actively potty-trained at school, and it is strongly recommended the parents do the same. In the first year the kids are also allowed to drink from those mugs with a lid on it.

A second advantage is that kids watch the other kids, and do not want to be the last one wearing diapers or drinking from a bottle.


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