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Wednesday, September 28, 2011

Gilad Atzmon provokes firestorm, joins Truth Jihad Radio on Rosh Hashanah!


Truth Jihad Radio Wed. 9/28/11, 1-3 pm Central, American Freedom Radio(archived here.) Call-in number: (402) 237-2525 or post your questions to my Facebook page.

Jewish New Year (Rosh Hashanah) two-hour special!

Guest for both hours: Gilad Atzmon, Israeli-born saxophonist and author whose terrific new book The Wandering Who? has drawn a blitzkrieg of attacks not only from the usual zio-nazi suspects like Jeffrey Goldberg...but also from certain self-styled peaceniks and pro-Palestinians. The common thread is that the attacks on Atzmon are as vitriolic as they are moronic. (Watch John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago annihilate Goldberg.)

Atzmon's book is a blistering critique of Jewish identity politics - in his view the real source of Zionism's ongoing atrocities - and it's clear that he has touched a very raw nerve.

The Wandering Who? is not just for Jews, and its critique of identity politics has implications extending far beyond the boundaries of Jewishness. Gilad Atzmon is the Moses of our time, calling all of us out of the Egypt of our boneheaded nationalisms and racialisms and exceptionalisms and chosen-people-isms toward some form of humanistic universalism. My own is Islamic: One God, one humanity.

Gilad's work is, among other things, a reminder to let religion be religion, and to prevent it from devolving into secular identity politics - one of the worst possible forms of idolatry. For God is the ultimate Other, and an orientation of absolute surrender to God (the correct orientation, the prophets tell us) amounts to an attitude of complete openness to the Other. Secular identity politics offers the opposite: A badly-disguised worship of self. The idolatrous self-worship of "The Jewish People," invented 200 years ago as a poor substitute for Judaism, created the blindness towards the Other that sparked the ongoing holocaust in Palestine. Gilad Atzmon mercilessly dissects this process, and opens the door to the kind of openness toward the Other, and the universal ethics of love, kindness and compassion that grow out of such openness, that could solve the problem in Occupied Palestine - and a whole lot of other places as well.
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Here's the recent Guardian.UK (ostensibly a "librul" rag... more like "left gatekeeper") hit piece on Atzmon's book which they discuss some in the interview in the OP,

Gilad Atzmon, antisemitism and the left

The Palestinian cause is hindered, not helped, when the left fails to notice or confront anti-semitism

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  • Andy Newman
  • guardian.co.uk, Sunday 25 September 2011 19.30 BST
  
  Jazz saxophonist Gilad Atzmon is a former soldier in the Israeli army and advocate of the Palestinian cause. Photograph: Eamonn Mccabe
  
  A letter was published in response to this article on 26 September 2011: "Antisemitism and the left – some facts"
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  Gilad Atzmon is a world renowned jazz musician, and a former soldier in the Israeli army, so his advocacy of the Palestinian cause is guaranteed to draw attention. Indeed, a small leftwing publisher, Zero Books, has commissioned Atzmon to write a book on the Jews as part of an otherwise entirely credible series by respected left figures such as Richard Seymour, Nina Power and Laurie Penny.
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  The trouble is that Atzmon has often argued that the Zionist oppression of the Palestinians is attributable not to the bellicose politics of the Israeli state, but to Jewish lobbies and Jewish power. Atzmon's antisemitic writings include, for example, a 2009 article – Tribal Marxism for Dummies – in which he explains that while "Marxism is a universal paradigm, its Jewish version is very different. It is there to mould Marxist dialectic into a Jewish subservient precept". Atzmon argues that it is merely a "Judeo-centric pseudo intellectual setting which aims at political power" and that "Jewish Marxism is there to … stop scrutiny of Jewish power and Jewish lobbying".
  This is a wild conspiracy argument, dripping with contempt for Jews. Sadly, Atzmon's status as a celebrity advocate of the Palestinian cause means that he has been feted by some on the left. The Socialist Workers party, for example, used to invite him to attend their public events, and Indymedia has robustly defended Atzmon, even banning people who object to him.
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  Sadly, the left does not have an unblemished record on opposing antisemitism. In 2009, for example, the respected American leftist publication Counterpunch published an article by Alison Weir of the organisation If Americans Knew defending the unsubstantiated and implausible claims made by the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet about Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinians in Gaza to harvest their organs.
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  Weir implied, with no evidence, that Israel is at the centre of international organ smuggling. She then explicitly argued that the medieval "blood libel" – that Jews kill Christian children – has a basis in fact. Elsewhere, more than 3 million people have watched on YouTube the antisemitic film Zeitgeist: the Movie, despite its recycling of paranoia about a Jewish plot for world domination.
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  Sometimes well-meaning people fail to recognise antisemitism when they encounter it, because they are not attuned to the linguistic codes in which it is expressed, or are unaware of the cultural themes of anti-Judaic prejudice being drawn upon. Anti-Judaic bigotry predates modern racism, and is embedded in our culture. In pre-capitalist Europe Christians were prohibited from usury – lending money for interest. Medieval Jewry thus played a social role as financiers. The enduring negative stereotype of Jews as "greedy" therefore derived from medieval opposition to finance capital.
• As Martin Luther wrote in 1543: "[The Jews] let us work in the sweat of our brow to earn money and property while they sit behind the stove, idle away the time, fart, and roast pears … with their accursed usury they hold us and our property captive. … Thus they are our masters and we are their servants, with our property, our sweat, and our labour."
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  Luther may have little direct influence on modern antisemitism, but the identification of Jews as trying to control the world through money still has widespread currency, and informs the idea of a "Jewish lobby" that dictates American support for Israel.
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  The 19th century saw anti-Judaic feeling given a gloss of pseudo-science, with the birth of modern racialised antisemitism. This made an important difference because it created a racial category for the Jews. Whereas medieval anti-Judaism had regarded Jewishness as a question of faith, and therefore believed that Jews stopped being Jews if they accepted Christ, in the 19th century Jews came to be seen as aliens in Europe.
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  The Jews have always regarded themselves as a nation without a home, and it should come as no surprise that in response to such antisemitism Jewish political nationalism arose across Europe in the 19th century, or that Zionism then gave expression to the aspiration for a Jewish nation state. The actually existing Israel is founded upon displacement of another people, and there will never be peace and security until the Palestinians achieve justice. However, the cause of the Palestinians is hindered, not helped, by association with antisemitism.
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  It is incumbent upon the left and the Palestinian solidarity movement to both be aware of the conscious effort of far-right antisemites to infiltrate the movement, and to vigorously oppose and exclude antisemites. We would not hesitate to condemn racists, homophobes or sexists, and must be equally robust in opposing anti-Jewish hate-speech.
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Mearsheimer Responds to Goldberg’s Latest Smear


Mearsheimer Goes Ten Rounds with Goldberg

Gilad Atzmon: Dear friends, this may well be one of the greatest days of my life.


Just a few minutes ago, I saw this piece expressing unequivocal support from Professor John J. Mearsheimer clearly one of the most distinguished scholars in our discourse and beyond.

more:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09...mment-page-1/#

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amazon's "The Wandering Who" listing, book released 9/16 so there's only six reviews so far, which will of course be front-loaded with zio-shills. It will take some time for real reviews to appear, and votes as "most helpful" to rise to the top... at this writing it's 6 reviews total, and what do you know: 3 are 5-star, and 3 are 1-star... fortunately for the honest reviewers, their (3) reviews are featured on the main page as voted "most helpful", while the (3) shill reviews are not even shown, unless you click "see all reviews".

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5.0 out of 5 stars A Review of the Wandering WHo, September 28, 2011
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A Review of The Wandering Who
William A. Cook
"The Wandering Jew, like Cain, is Everyman. We are what we will to be: Cain or Abel, with a soul or without one, sympathetic to our fellows or indifferent, human or non-human."
(William A. Cook, "The Eternal Jew Goes on Forever," 24/08/09).
Gilad Atzmon's insight into the organism created by the Zionist movement in his book, The Wandering Who, is explosive; it tears the veil off of Israel's apparent civility, its apparent friendship with the United States, and its expressed solicitude for western powers--Britain, Canada, Australia, France and Germany--exposing behind the veil, the assassin ready to slay any and all that interfere with its tribally focused ends. In February of this year, Atzmon characterized Islam and Judaism as tribally oriented belief systems rooted not in "enlightened individualism," but rather in "...the survival of the extended family." These belief systems have nothing to do with personal liberties or personal rights; they have to do with securing the realm of their respective "ways of life." But unlike tribalism in Islam, tribalism in Judaism "can never live in peace with humanism and universalism" (4). "Both religions stand as systems that provide thorough answers in terms of spiritual, civil, cultural and day to day matters." In this regard, "...both Islam and Judaism are more than just religions: they convey an entire `way of life,' and stand as a thorough attempt to answer crucial questions regarding being in the world..."

The Wandering Who is a personal journey of a man born in Jerusalem, raised in the Jewish `way of life,' infused with the myths of the founding of the Jewish state; "Supremacy was brewed into our soul, we gazed at the world through racist, chauvinistic binoculars. And we felt no shame about it either" (5). Inducted into the Israeli military during the 1980s he served in Lebanon, and, in his late teens, experienced an epiphany caused in good measure by careful listening to voices beyond the wall that encircled him in the ghetto that is the Israeli state. This epiphany forced a distinction in identity versus identifying, between self-reliance and obedient servant to an ideology, a distinction that recognized Jews as people, Judaism as a religion, and Jewishness, an ideology that determines identity politics and a resulting political discourse.

What, then, characterizes a Jew? Atzmon distinguishes among those who follow the Judaic religion; those who regard themselves as a human being who happens to be of Jewish origin; and those who put their Jewishness over and above all other traits. Chaim Weizman, the first Israeli President and a Zionist, identified being a Jew as a `primary quality' above citizenship, occupation, head of household, indeed "Jewishness becomes the key element and fundamental characteristic of one's being." Vladimir Jabotinsky wrote "...the nucleus of his spiritual structure will always remain Jewish, because his blood, his body, his physical racial type are Jewish" ("A Letter on Autonomy," 1904). It is this identifying principle that Atzmon sees as corrosive, not only to Judaism, but to the safety and security of the Jewish people, their friends and their neighbors. "...probably then and there I left Chosen-ness behind to become an ordinary human being" (6). "For me to be Jewish is, above all, to be preoccupied with overcoming injustice and thirsting for justice in the world, and that means being respectful toward other peoples regardless of their nationality or religion, and empathetic in the face of human suffering whoever and wherever victimization is encountered" ("On Jewish Identity," 1/15/2011).

Significantly, Atzmon turns to the ancient tale of the wandering Jew to reap the complexities inherent in the contradictions that beset Judaism in today's world: tribalism versus universalism, chosen-ness versus democratic equality, rule by defiance of law versus nations ruled by law, control of government by Zionist controlled ideology versus responsiveness to the voice of the citizenry, and tribalistic morality where morals are fabricated for political utilitarian ends versus the inalienable rights of all endowed by nature.

The legend's primary symbolic value resides in its identification of `otherness,' the unique concept of `chosen-ness,' that separates the Jews from the rest of humanity resulting in an ideological and psychological isolation that becomes a strategic tool used by the Zionists and the Neo-Cons to manipulate the Jewish people and the formation of the Jewish state. Jabotinsky and Weizmann's "primary quality" of Jewishness prevents assimilation, thus forcing the Jew to remain always an alien wherever he or she resides. Personal identification can only exist in the tribe, a virtual and absolute commitment to Jewishness, making possible the use of Jews around the world as "sayanims" (assistants) to further the goals of the Jewish state (17). "The sayan is a person who would betray the nation of which he is a citizen out of devotion to a notion of a clannish brotherhood" (17).

There are thousands of sayanim around the world. In London alone, there are about 2,000 who are active, and another 5,000 on the list. They fulfill many different roles. A car sayan...running a rental agency, could help the Mossad rent a car without having to complete the usual documentation. ... a bank sayan could get you money if you needed it in the middle of the night, a doctor sayan would treat a bullet wound without reporting it to the police...The idea is to have a pool of people available when needed who can provide services but will keep quiet about them out of loyalty to the cause (17).
"In Zionist eyes Jewishness is an international network operation...to be a Jew is a deep commitment that goes far beyond any legal or moral order" (19). Atzmon identifies a functioning organism controlled by Zionist ideology and Neo-Con sayanim in the United States that has yoked Israeli interests to those of the United States using a document titled the USA Defense Planning Guidance Report for fiscal years 1994-1999. "In the Middle East and the Persian Gulf, we seek to foster regional stability, deter aggression against our friends and interests in the region, protect U.S. nationals and property, and safeguard our access to international air and seaways and to the region's oil. The United States is committed to the security of Israel and to maintaining the qualitative edge that is critical to Israel's security." (22). This manipulative strategy "transformed the Jewish tribal mode into a collective functioning system." It also transformed "the American and British armies into a Zionist mission force" as Israel and the Neo-Cons manipulated the governments of the UK and the US to attack Israel's enemies in Iraq while imposing sanctions on Syria and defending its occupation and oppression of the Palestinians and its wanton destruction of Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2008-2009.

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5.0 out of 5 stars The Last Jewish Prophet, September 16, 2011
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The Wandering Who? chronicles Gilad Atzmon's journey away from his Jewish identity, and by extension away from all exclusive identities, into an inclusive humanness. It's a painful journey, a brutally honest self exploration of these internalized tribal impulses. He emerges from the struggle deracinated but emancipated, freed of a destructive load of cultural baggage.

As the poet Allen Ginsberg said, "If you want to be a prophet, you have to tell your secrets." By being brave enough to expose himself in writing, Atzmon has become a prophet, and his prophecy, as I see it, is a completion of the Mosaic journey, but this time as a mass exodus from Jewishness and all other ethnic bondings that split humanity. After 40 centuries of wandering in the desert of chosenness and separation, Jews and Gentiles alike can finally enter the full humanness of one world family, a secular promised land free of divisive group identities.

Jews have been at the forefront of every progressive movement for the past 160 years, and now it's Atzmon's turn. The atrocities of nationalism, both Jewish and non-Jewish, have forced him to the forefront of a movement to abolish all these tribal groupings, starting with his own.

The Wandering Who? is a threat not only to Zionism, but to all religious, ethnic, national, and even gender identities to which people cling. It's a book of radical liberation and as such dangerous to every orthodoxy and structure of power that separates us into antagonistic camps. Atzmon is a true subversive. Much needed.

Now the survival of our species demands that also Christians, Muslims, Americans, Britons, etc. break out of their group mentalities. We can't suddenly erase these categories, but we can relegate them to the background where they no longer determine our identity. Our sense of self can then be based on qualities that unite humanity rather than divide it.

Thanks for showing the way, Gilad.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Kevin MacDonald for Dummies in the Book: The Wandering Who?, September 14, 2011
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Kevin MacDonald for Dummies in the Book: The Wandering Who?

The author Israel Shamir once suggested I write a "dumb down" version of Kevin MacDonald's trilogy or find someone who could.

Well the world now has the perfect book in the musician Gilad Atzmon. Who Alan Dershowitz considers a bigger threat to Jewish group interests than Norman Finkelstein and Kevin MacDonald (KMD) put together.

(Dershowitz remember about 4 years ago when you sent an email to me by accident intended for one of your New York financial sponsors worried about Mr. Gilad Atzmon. Well, you were right to worry about this genius!!)

The musical genius of Gilad Atzmon (even KMD started out as a musician before becoming a shrink) has accomplished a masterpiece in prose and thought that boggles one's mind. I know you will agree. It is a must read!!

Excerpts from the book:

"The `Jewish people' is a made-up notion, consisting of an imaginary past with very little to back it up forensically, historically or textually.

"Nor has much been found in the Sinai Desert to prove the story of the legendary Egyptian exodus - apparently 3 million Hebrew men, women and children marched there for forty years without leaving a single Matzo Ball behind.

"Jews do not have a common origin, that their Semitic origins are a myth. Jews have no origin in Palestine whatsoever, and therefore their act of so-called `return' must be realised as pretext for a tribal expansionist invasion.

"If Shlomo Sand is correct, then the Jews, rather than being a race, comprise a collective of many people who have been hijacked by a national movement based on myths.

"If Jews are not a race and have nothing to do with Semitism, then `anti-Semitism' is, categorically, an empty signifier. In other words, criticism of Jewish nationalism, Jewish lobbying and Jewish power can only be realised as a legitimate critique of ideology, politics and practice.

"Professor Yeshayahu Leibowitz, a Latvian-born philosopher at the Hebrew University, was probably first to suggest that the Holocaust has become the new Jewish religion.

"This new religion is coherent enough to define its `antichrists' (Holocaust deniers), and powerful enough to persecute them (through Holocaust denial and hate-speech laws).

"The Holocaust religion serves both right and left Jewish political discourse, but it appeals to the goyim as well, especially those who preach and advocate killing in the name of `freedom', democracy and `moral interventionism'.

"That which maintains the Jewish collective identity is fear.

"To be a Jew is to see a threat in every Goy, to be on a constant alert.

"...whatever is good for the Jews is simply good.

"The Jewish population in the UK is 280,000 or 0.46 per cent. There are 650 seats in the House of Commons so, as a proportion, Jewish entitlement is only three seats. With 24 seats Jews are eight times over-represented. Which means, of course, that other groups must be under-represented, including Muslims. If Muslims, for instance, were over-represented to the same extent as the Jews (i.e. eight times) they'd have 200 seats. All hell would break loose.

"Jewish history engages with the basic question of whether a given account is `good for the Jews' or not.

"The dismissal of factuality or lack of commitment to truthfulness are actually symptomatic of contemporary Jewish collective ideology and identity politic.

"In the Jewish intellectual insular world, one first decides what the historic moral is, then one invents `a past' to fit.

"As long as we fail to ask questions, we will be subjected to Zionist lobbies and their plots. We will continue killing in the name of Jewish suffering. We will maintain our complicity in Western imperialist crimes.

"With millions of besieged Palestinians, Israel has given itself the reputation of a pariah state.

"How is it that, in spite of the Holocaust, Israel and Jewish lobbies invest so much energy in evoking hatred towards enemies of Israel and world Jewry?

"...envisage an horrific situation in which an Israeli so-called `pre-emptive' nuclear attack on Iran escalates into a disastrous nuclear war, in which tens of millions of people perish.

Buy it NOW! One of the best books on the Jewish Question in the last 50 years!!!

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“The Wandering Who” Gilad Atzmon’s Look At the Darkness Behind “Seinfeld”



Always the Smart Thing, Read the Book, Not the Reviews, Even This One


by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09...hind-seinfeld/

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Just finished the book three days ago, to technical for me but good anyway.

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I have been reading this book for almost a week now, and I've only gotten half way through. I'll post my comments when I finish the book.

In the video above, why doesn't Dershowitz just pull out a copy of the book and set it on fire?

Hatha

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Alan Dershowitz basically states Israel is an illegal and immoral country with the greatest legal team ever assembled..

Dershowitz: Israel Has Legal Right to Attack Iran
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...0#.Tudg4XNmLbd
Speaking at the annual business conference sponsored by Globes, Dershowitz stated that regardless of whether or not it would be wise for Israel to attack, “Israel has the right morally and legally to strike Iran just as it did on [the nuclear facility] in Iraq in 1981. Having the right to attack does not mean that it should do so, but I would defend Israel’s right.”...

Dershowitz also advised Israel to be more aggressive against countries’ threats to arrest visiting IDF officers and political leaders for alleged war crimes.

Israeli officials should not "duck back into their planes,” admonished Dershowitz. “That is not the way great nations behave,” he continued. He advised officers and politicians to "hold their heads high" and challenge countries’ authority to put them on trial.

Dershowitz vowed if they are arrested, he would ”put together the greatest legal team ever assembled.”

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bump, to a MOST worthy thread/topic.

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I am reading the book, once again, but this time slowwwwwwwly in order to understand the whole thing......one thing that he did say that I paid attention to was............"Is not what the Jews are all about, but rather what they are not".......to me that sounds like a double fuck you to the goys.

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The first five words of the interview "well...every year some nutcase"

Are these really the words to be primarily expressed in the first sentence from a "thought provoking" doctorate intellectual?

gmafb....

btw... According to Mr. AD, all jews are apparently Zionist jews. Directly expressed in no uncertain terms.

Rather profound statement. Either a self hating jew or a zionist jew.

Black, and white. With or against.

Ok, who the f- is this guy really, and what does he represent?

Black and white. Begs the question. Polarized much?

again GMAFB...

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The first five words of the interview "well...every year some nutcase"

Are these really the words to be primarily expressed in the first sentence from a "thought provoking" doctorate intellectual?

gmafb....

btw... According to Mr. AD, all jews are apparently Zionist jews. Directly expressed in no uncertain terms.
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Yes, there should have been more discussion on Zionism, then the "shaming" answers would have been revealed.

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Alan Dershowitz reviews the book and other Jews that mention it: "What they have done is cross a dangerous line."
Lunacy of the Jew. Doing a bad or over the top job means Dershow ends up promoting what he intends to discredit?

Professor Alan Dershowitz trying discredit [Atzmon and] the Anti Israel End the Fed crowd as anti semetic

I did a scientific analysis of Dershy's screech-fest above, counting how many instances of him dropping ADL emotion-tugger/critical-thought-stopper buzzwords/phrases occurred. Only Dershy's spew was counted, not Stossel's usages of the words or those in quotes which Stossel read.

In order of frequency:
HATE 8
SHAME 8
HITLER 4
ANTI-SEMITISM 3
HOLOCAUST 3
NEO-NAZI 3
JEWS KILLED CHRISTIAN CHILDREN (ref to "blood libel") 2
CONSPIRACY-THEORY 1
DAVID DUKE 1
FRINGE-NUT 1
MEIN-KAMPF 1
NUT-CASE 1
RACISM 1
BIGOTRY 1
JUNK 1
SLAVERY 1
RAPE 1
DANGEROUS 1
CROSS A TERRIBLE LINE 1
SEXISM 1
HOMOPHOBIA 1

total: 45 ADL emotion-tugger/critical-thought-stopper buzzword usages, which in the total segment length of 7 mins 19 secs (439 secs), that's an adl thought-stopper buzzword from Dershy's lips every 9.75 secs. I'd have to endure the segment again to count the total time Dershy had the floor during the segment, but just imagining off hand he spoke for half the segment, that would double the frequency of Dershy's 'while speaking' buzzword spew rate, to once every ~5 secs.

In his ADL-screech-fest, did anyone notice Dershy address even one single material point in Atzmon's book? Or did he purely screech about SHAME/HATE/ETC?

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Good job, Pat.

Where exactly did he get his numbers on the rise of Antisemitism over the world, and in U.S. colleges.

Also, Who is keeping track of this number? for without it they may not have a job.

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I only listened to the first three minutes......if hes not a "Jew" then he has been paid by them......

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Hatha, Ponce- since you two have or are reading the book, could you confirm/debunk what dershy says beginning at 6:35-

"he says in this book over and over again: zionists are jooz, jooz are zionists, it's all the same thing"

True? or....

[caseferter]

False, he makes the difference between the Khazar and the Jews of the Bible........

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^ Ponce, Dershy's accusation of Atzmon was,

"he says in this book over and over again: zionists are jooz, jooz are zionists, it's all the same thing"

I'm interested in Atzmon's claims in the book re ^, coz to me they are not the same thing, as Icke spells out, Thread: The Zionist Elephant In The Room

zionism = Rothschild Global Usury Empire-ism

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important new Atzmon interview here- as in the past week a zio-controlled "pro-Palestinian" group outed themselves by saying Atzmon should be shunned due to his anti-Semitism™, RACISM™ & HATE™.

TUT Podcast March 17, 2012

Posted by crescentandcross in The Ugly Truth Podcast, Uncategorized on March 18, 2012



Tonight’s program–Gilad Atzmon discussing the latest attacks against his work by ‘pro-Palestinian’ activists as being ‘racist’ and SURPRISE, SURPRISE–’anti-semitic’.

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also see:
Gilad Atzmon Peculiar Timing - The Attacks On Gilad Atzmon Engaging Gilad Atzmon - Vid To Disavow Or Debate Gilad Atzmon?