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Old 08-02-2012, 12:49 AM   #1
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:11 AM   #2
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THAT - WAS - GREAT! Larken Rose is rising high on my list of people I most respect.
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:13 AM   #3
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GREAT video....Thanks for posting
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:46 AM   #4
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Awesome LS, thanks for posting.
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:14 AM   #5
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A review of the book, "The Iron Web."
Totally loved the video.

I have read thousands of books in my 60 years, but this one instantly became one of my favorites. Rose writes great dialogue: he presents important philosophical ideas in conversations that you can imagine real people having with one another. And while this may not be the best plotted book I've ever seen, the author seems to have put his anarchistic, freedom-loving soul into it, and it shines through like a star. I read the book in just a few days. Two weeks later I read it again, to make sure it was as good as I thought it was the first time through. Then I ordered 10 copies to send to friends. Yeah, that good.

The book focuses on three characters: a young woman fresh out of high school, a newbie Federal Agent (ATF), and the personal secretary to the newly elected President of the United States. These three are all mild, ordinary folks of good will. Nothing special or particularly interesting about any of them . . . which turns out not to matter too much, because the real show is what's going on around them. The author throws his characters into the middle of a Waco-like government siege of a rural community in Arizona. The government and the ever-trustworthy news media call the besieged folks "terrorists" belonging to an "anarchist cult" called "The Iron Web." But as soon as the viewpoint characters meet the people who supposedly belong to this dreaded conspiracy, they find that the government is up to its old tricks of demonizing people of good will who happen to hold politically incorrect opinions. In this case, the government has real cause to be frightened of these folks: tyrants must always fear men who know that they are free. And that's all I'm going to say about the story - you should have the fun of discovering it for yourself.

Like Atlas Shrugged, this is a novel of ideas, powerful ones. There's even a little speech like the famous John Galt polemic - with the difference that this speech is plain fun to read.

Just to give you a taste, here are a few of the many tidbits I enjoyed:

"Whatever else happens, never tell someone that you accept that he has the right to rule you. Never. You will make him into a monster, and you will make yourself into a slave."

"When has polite talk ever reduced tyranny?"

"What have you done with the country they [America's Founding Fathers] gave you? Today you tolerate a level of oppression and intrusion far beyond King George's wildest dreams, yet you cannot even imagine engaging in passive resistance, much less forcible revolution, in defense of your own freedom. The bravest thing you'll ever do is walk into a booth every few years, where no one can see you, and press a button to say which of two slave-masters you'd rather be owned by."

"Majority rule is not freedom. Majority rule is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner."

"We view and treat each other as adult human beings, each responsible for his actions, each obligated to judge right and wrong for himself. We detest the alternative: the giant daycare center that so many of you seem to prefer, where a bunch of whimpering brats whine about their 'needs' and demand preferential treatment based on some twisted, delusional notion of 'fairness,' while at the same time begging the nanny to punish the kids they don't like."

Buy the book, and enjoy the whole feast.
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:35 AM   #6
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I think I'd like to read that book.

Interesting video.

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Old 08-02-2012, 05:21 AM   #7
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That is gobsmackingly eloquent. I get satisfaction when somebody articulates what I feel strongly and presents it to a large audience. I spent a lot of time in my career observing the dynamics of bullies. All bullies have enablers. People who egg them on. People who pile on the approval for bullying behavior. What struck me most was that those who enable the bullies do it because they want to escape the burden of making moral decisions. It takes courage to make a moral decision. You have to be willing to go against the flow when the flow is wrong. Courage is one of the rarest human qualities.

Earlier this year I bought three of Larken Rose's books. I've only made my way partly through one of them--The Most Dangerous Superstition. I have to finish that book and read the Iron Web. I also have to watch the German version of this on YT. This is the most impressive video I've seen in years. Thanks for posting it Large Sarge.


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Old 08-02-2012, 12:44 PM   #8
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..... I spent a lot of time in my career observing the dynamics of bullies. All bullies have enablers. People who egg them on. People who pile on the approval for bullying behavior.

What struck me most was that those who enable the bullies do it because they want to escape the burden of making moral decisions.

It takes courage to make a moral decision. You have to be willing to go against the flow when the flow is wrong. Courage is one of the rarest human qualities.

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Hatha,
this particular snipit above carved from your prior response really resonated within me.

Not only do I agree, it is my posit that the internet is the perfect vehicle for bullying, because of the "barrier" placed between the target and the bully PLUS the host of enablers. And TV and movie venues have reduced a large segment of the population in the last 60 years in particular to sullied but passive witnesses/participants in said sociopathic outbursts whether spontaneous or scripted.

I have observed and been the target of such cowardly behavior in exponential magnitudes greater in the last 5 years than any ruffin's frontal attack suffered K-12 in decades past. Until your summation, I never saw the lack of moral turpitude nor cowadice associated with said 'net attacks.

It appears to me that this 'net media is one of the most advanced and nuanced tools for promulgating cowardice and exultation of moral depravity ever witnessed, let alone endured on the planet heretofore.

Many thanks for your contributions, Hatha.


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Old 08-02-2012, 02:48 PM   #9
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I downloaded it. That one is definitely a keeper.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:58 AM   #10
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Thanks for posting this. I shared with a few folks.
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:03 PM   #11
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Here's the follow-up:



This one uses the works of David Dees inthe slide show. He's got the formula right. The machine has two parts. The tyrants and the people who enable them. He's trying to penetrate the people who enable the tyrants. Shaming them.


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Old 08-13-2012, 07:37 PM   #12
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:43 AM   #13
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Great video, thanks for sharing! I know a lot of people, family and friends, that need to see this.
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:17 AM   #14
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Great video, thanks for sharing! I know a lot of people, family and friends, that need to see this.
And they will nod their heads in agreement and go back right to doing exactly what makes the power mongers stronger
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Old 08-14-2012, 08:11 AM   #15
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90 min commercial free podcast, I've only listened to part, early on they play the 20 min LR speech in the OP vid, that ends around 26:00 and they discuss.

The National Intel Report with John Stadtmiller 2012.08.13


Guest: Ron MacDonald & Kevin Clifford

John is joined by Ron MacDonald again this week. They start off discussing the 1 Dollar DVD Project (onedollardvdproject.com) and Larken Rose before John plays a clip of a very impassioned speech made by Larken Rose. John then moves itno explaining the tyranny and how we must do something to work against it.

Kevin Clifford, the new host following John Mon-Fri, who explains his views and the purpose of his show.

Listen

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Old 08-14-2012, 01:05 PM   #16
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Thanks Pat, as always you provide really informative links.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:31 PM   #17
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Here's the follow-up:



This one uses the works of David Dees inthe slide show. He's got the formula right. The machine has two parts. The tyrants and the people who enable them. He's trying to penetrate the people who enable the tyrants. Shaming them.


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When I saw the 'Show Ed the Law' I was reminded by an old latin quote--'Stop quoting laws to us, we have swords(guns)'..
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:43 PM   #18
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thanks ... back up
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:35 PM   #19
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Bumpity...
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:42 PM   #20
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You call that a bump? THIS is a bump!



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