[neotheMit]

What will be the indicator that the time has been reached?






I see the rubber meeting the road at the point of riots overtaking government troops because the people have no food. When things shut down, it won't take more than 2 weeks for that to happen. It will start in the cities. Rural people can get by much longer than those in the city.

We need to know the signs of imminent disaster. There are usually some warnings. I am getting some bad vibes right now. They have me looking for indicators.

We are in a down hill slide no doubt, but nothing major until after the "election".

[Blolover11]

What are "wild beans"? Left overs from previous crops?

You must be somewhere south. In CT the growing season is just starting. I have chickens but chicken feed is getting pretty damned expensive. I can't let the birds out: 1) they destroy my garden now; 2) hawks will get them.

Sounds like you got THE deal on the cow.

i don't know what the beans are. but they're REAL good raw. would taste good with salad dressing too but ... that costs money.


i know what you mean about the hawks. i hear varying things. one neighbor with about 25 chickens says i don't have to worry about hawks picking off the adult chickens. another neighbor says our bigger hawks in our neighborhood do eat chickens.

once i came outside and there was a large hawk just sitting there in a tree branch above the chickens. it squawked and took off. it might have been an owl, it happened fast.


as far as the cow - it died before the neighbor got it to the butcher. so they were stuck with a dead cow in their trailer. "Mama Cow" (that was her name) had just given birth. she was prolapsed, which i can explain but it would sound disgusting.

they thought they didn't have the resources to butcher it, and a butcher won't take a dead cow. so it died at 3 AM, they listed it on Craigslist, the deal was done at 11 AM. i spent the next 2 days cutting everything that looked like meat and putting it in a 5 gallon bucket.

it was QUITE an anatomy lesson. i had butchered a deer once.

i didn't have the right tools, just 2 sharp knives and a good file and a whetstone. so they winched it out onto a tarp in my driveway and i went to work.

learn by doing

[Corryikilelet]

We are in a down hill slide no doubt, but nothing major until after the "election".

Oh no! There will be MANY major things before then. Give me a countdown and watch what unfolds in this time- 68 days.

[Hamucevasiop]

All eyes on the EU at the moment.

[Kotyara]

We are in a down hill slide no doubt, but nothing major until after the "election".

I don't know about that. We had that crash just before the last election.

[Nfxutkpa]

All eyes on the EU at the moment.

Europe is in big trouble, but could also be one of those, "Hey, look over there" jobs.

I do suspect that a Europe crash in the next 30-60 days could trigger a panic here. So that is one sign to watch.

Things are wound up pretty tight right now. When it goes it will be a whopper.

[Tainlyferfara]

I wish. I have been waiting for a crash for so long, it's all the boy who cried wolf to me at this point.

I don't know about the boy who cried wolf; but I've been expecting since long before GIM went tits up.

[fashikn]

Me too. Since Y2K...

LOL... I am ready but am willing to be readier...

[lasadeykar]

T- 661 days and counting

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...ght=shtf+index

The only items on the SHTF index that are mildly alarming yet are gasoline prices and unemployment. Something from this list would really have to flare up in order to see a clear warning signal of imminent change. Until then, it continues to be a grind, with some ebb and flow.

[neotheMit]

I don't know about that. We had that crash just before the last election.

I don't think tptb want a bigger tarnish on Obummer before Diebold votes. This is my most likely scenario to play out.

Plenty of "black swans" are out there, but there is too many to think about ultimately. Since most of us are farly aware of global happenings, I would assume we would have a day or five head start before the sheep.

[Corryikilelet]

I don't know about the boy who cried wolf; but I've been expecting since long before GIM went (tits) penguin belly-buttons up.

Minor adjustment in description.

[HaremShaih]

I've been watching the housing market (so cal) and they have been quietly raising prices about 10 percent, pretending the economy is good, all the while hiding shadow inventories and true sales figures. Pathetic.

But it made me think about how this is their game; pretend, make the sheeple believe, keep the dollar strong.

YEP! Big time. I am constantly amazed at how they've kept up this charade.

But hey why not?

There are still a lot of people out here looking to buy homes at the artificially inflated prices. Why not keep shearing if the sheep are willing?

[aquadayAquaks]

YEP! Big time. I am constantly amazed at how they've kept up this charade.

But hey why not?

There are still a lot of people out here looking to buy homes at the artificially inflated prices. Why not keep shearing if the sheep are willing?

They are going to shear the stock market and all paper holders too... I agree, why not if the sheeple let them.

[Mowselelew]

I am constantly amazed at how they've kept up this charade.

There are still a lot of people out here looking to buy homes at the artificially inflated prices.

I work semi close to real estate and this still blows my mind.

I reckon some folks just have more cash than wits.

[Corryikilelet]

Silver broke under $27 in a violent stab. We are at the bottom of the regression channel and the dark blue line is the base support long term. Experts think we bottomed out. I am not so sure. I would like to see it settle for a while before I would accept this as bottom. The markets are all messed up so it is just a guessing game.
2012-05-16-Silver.jpg2012-05-16 silver week.jpg

If we break under $25..... next stop is $22.

[otheloComRole]

Don Harrold has been saying he thinks the bottom is at $22 for the past week.

He made this today, saying he still doesn't think the bottom isn't in yet, but he does have some doubts since none of the longs (people like us) have been scared out yet. His technicals for the daily, weekly, and monthly all indicate a lower price.

[Corryikilelet]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/chris-...8-style-crisis

Chris Martenson: "We Are About To Have Another 2008-Style Crisis"

Well, my hat is off to the global central planners for averting the next stage of the unfolding financial crisis for as long as they have. I guess there’s some solace in having had a nice break between the events of 2008/09 and today, which afforded us all the opportunity to attend to our various preparations and enjoy our lives.
Alas, all good things come to an end, and a crisis rooted in ‘too much debt’ with a nice undercurrent of ‘persistently high and rising energy costs’ was never going to be solved by providing cheap liquidity to the largest and most reckless financial institutions. And it has not.
Forestalled is Not Foregone

The same sorts of signals that we had in 2008 are once again traipsing across my market monitors. Not precisely the same, of course, but with enough similarities that they rhyme loudly. Whereas in 2008 we saw breakdowns in the credit spreads of major financial institutions, this time we are seeing the same dynamic in the sovereign debt of the weaker European nation states.
Greece, as expected and predicted here, is a right proper mess and will have to leave the euro monetary system if it is to have any chance at recovery going forward. Yes, all those endless meetings and rumors and final agreements painfully hammered out by eurocrats over the past year are almost certainly going to be tossed, and additional losses are going to be foisted upon the hapless holders of Greek debt. My prediction is that within a year Greece will be back on the drachma, perhaps by the end of this year (2012).

(see long article at link)

[ExpodoDop]

I am waiting. I think the EURO situation is going to be very dollar positive, which will provide the hammer to PM's. Everyone in Europe is going to want dollars.