[Q0KmoR8K]

I'm not saying it's made up but I know if I had my hands on a trove of fake coins and was about to post the story online I would include pictures.

Pictures do lots of wonderful things such as educate, augment and reduce verbiage as well as lend authenticity to the story.

[mikapoq]

jbeck57143, enjoy your 15 minutes of fame

[Hoglaunccoolf]

Holy smokes! What's with people? I didn't make this up (Why would I??) Yes it's a real jewelry store. The owner's not real familiar with US coins so he had me look at them. I don't know why he didn't test them himself. I'm sure he would have. He wasn't going to buy them without finding out what they were. Sure he could have did his own research, but the had me look at them--so what?

As for him not noticing they were all the same, he had just gotten them. He hadn't started inspecting them. I'm sure he would have noticed they were all the same once he began going through them-but he had me do that for him instead.

Whether or not the guy was in his right mind, he did leave the coins with the store.

As for pictures, I don't know if I'll get a chance to take any-but it's still a true story.

It never occurred to me people would think this is made up--because it's not.

OK, let's say your story is true. Consider that anyone who had a bag of fake rare date Carson City mint Morgan silver dollars either knew their numismatic significance and that they are fake, or believed them to be legitimate. If he knew they were fakes, then the last thing he'd do is bring them to an expert in batch to be authenticated. He's have to know they'd be siezed. On the other hand, if he believes the coins are real, then he is either very stupid and gullible or a thief, as the coins are likely stolen. If your expert friend is smart, he'll distance himself from said coins ASAP.

[attanilifardy]

After thinking about this a little more, I can see how it would be a true story. It's not how I would have done things had I been in the shoes of either the buyer or the seller, but it is plausable. Hanlon's razor comes to mind: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

[Beatris]

Isn't this also a case of COUNTERFEITING? This is a legal tender- a US minted coin, that is being faked. Shouldn't some "authority" be called in to investigate this wholesale counterfeit batch?

[haittiweerved]

Isn't this also a case of COUNTERFEITING? This is a legal tender- a US minted coin, that is being faked. Shouldn't some "authority" be called in to investigate this wholesale counterfeit batch?

Absolutely - the police should be there preferably at the same time the original owner of the coins comes back to retrieve them.

[Hoglaunccoolf]

Absolutely - the police should be there preferably at the same time the original owner of the coins comes back to retrieve them.

Yeah maybe. But nobody likes a squealer. Yet still, these fakes need to be taken off the street pronto. What to do, what to do.

[Kuncher]

The proper people to "inform" is the ATF under whose aegis the Secret Service operate.

Consider this fact for a moment. The US Secret Service won't even issue a waiver in order to permit a documented and properly captioned, counterfeit, single specimen of the gold plated US 1913 V Nickel (yes the one passed for a $5 gold in the bars in the days of early American gold rush) in the American Numismatic Association Museum cases in Colorado.
This was 30 years ago, and they still won't issue said waiver.
In fact, they came in and seized it on the spot within days of it being showcased in the museum exhibit.

ATF/SS are serious as a heart attack when it comes to uncovering, seizing and pursuing the counterfeiting of US coins or currency.

But as iterated earlier, jbeck's IP is now captured and the wheels of cyber space are now engaged. They WILL inexorably grind slowly and very very fine.


beefsteak

[Vitoethiche]

Geesh, I'm glad I'm nowhere near that mess. If it's for real.

And I would never recommend calling the "Authorities" in on anything. Ever!!! But that's just me. SSS...

[Poll Pitt]

The proper people to "inform" is the ATF under whose aegis the Secret Service operate.

Consider this fact for a moment. The US Secret Service won't even issue a waiver in order to permit a documented and properly captioned, counterfeit, single specimen of the gold plated US 1913 V Nickel (yes the one passed for a $5 gold in the bars in the days of early American gold rush) in the American Numismatic Association Museum cases in Colorado.
This was 30 years ago, and they still won't issue said waiver.
In fact, they came in and seized it on the spot within days of it being showcased in the museum exhibit.

ATF/SS are serious as a heart attack when it comes to uncovering, seizing and pursuing the counterfeiting of US coins or currency.

But as iterated earlier, jbeck's IP is now captured and the wheels of cyber space are now engaged. They WILL inexorably grind slowly and very very fine.


beefsteak

Thats beautiful, in a somewhat ideal world thats what would happen, "ATF/SS" busts the 'federal reserve' arrests the players for treason and we return to lawful money.

Real world, counterfeiting is normal.

[Kuncher]

Counterfeiting is not normal. Theft is not normal. Fraud is not normal.

THAT's the real world.

And yes, I've contacted the ATF/SS over the years re: counterfeiting of gold coins.

I like attending "collectibles auctions" especially when there are "coins" listed on the sale flyer or in the newspaper. I've dropped a dime on many an auctioneer for "gold rarities" in particular which are as phoney as a $15 bill.

Welcome to my real world. It is a world where no one named MORGAN or DIMON or RUBIN or Geithner are role models for "what's normal."


beefsteak