[grofvuri]

Well, just been driving home after picking little on up. Following a Peugeot 406 that was so bent out of shape it was untrue, obviously been in a major smash and the jig hadn't worked... as it's driving "forward" the whole car pointed to the right quite dramatically...

Anyway, I've seen a few like this lately... but not done anything about it. This time, seen my arse as it was a taxi with a family in it... which is a joke. So, just called the none emergency 101 police number we have in the UK now... and the women basically couldn't be arsed and couldn't understand what I was saying...

Pug "... so the car was bent, as in the chassis was twisted to one side"...

Police "... so the car drove sideways? What do you mean?"

Pug "... no, the car obviously was driving along a straight road BUT the chassis was twisted to the right badly as it looks like it's been in a car crash, twisted the car and they've not straightened it..."

Police "... So your saying it was bent...."

Pug "Yes... and IMHO, it's not road worthy carrying passengers, if it's in anther smash the car is already compromised structurally..."

Police "... are you a mechanic and is this your expert opinion?"

Pug "What?... I'm just simply saying I think it's dangerous... if you don't do anything about it and view the car, see if it's got MOT, see what's happened, people could die, it's dangerous.

Police "So, what do you think we should do, do you want to raise a complaint?"

Pug "I'm not the one to make that decision, I'm simply stating what I saw, I've given you the registration plate number, told you the facts, if you want to let a dangerous car on the road, that's your problem...?! Not sure what you want me to say..."

Police "OK... I'll state that you'd like the police to go around the car owners house and...."

Pug "hold on... I'm not saying anything... I'm stating what I saw... it's upto you guys what you want to do about it..."

Police " I'll raise an incident number on it... was the car mechanically sound?"

Pug "I don't know, I didn't stop to check... it was what I've previously stated".

Police "Incident number xxxxx... thanks for your call Mr Dodd...."... phone goes down...

WTF WTF WTF!

[dosugxxx]

I dont think they have the time tbh to be checking on cars that have in all likelihood recently been in an accident and due to be repaired..

[Konidurase]

They said it had been logged; I don't know what else you expect them to say? You say you weren't asking for them to go round to the owner's house, so what exactly are you expecting them do?

[n2Oddw8P]

They said it had been logged; I don't know what else you expect them to say? You say you weren't asking for them to go round to the owner's house, so what exactly are you expecting them do?

I don't know what I was expecting, some process that THEY tell me what they'll do as opposed to asking what I want done about it.

Maybe the conversation above doesn't pain the correct picture... she quite simply wasn't interested and was quite happy for me to NOT raise any incident then they wouldn't have to do something about it... she's asking what I want to do about it, it's got nothing to do with me. If I wanted to take it into my own hands I'd have followed him home and done something myself and wouldn't even have called the police... I was reporting it, and she was basically trying to ask what I wanted done about it, I reported. It's got nothing to do what the process is from that point on. Also, she took about 5 times of repeating myself of what I meant by the chassis being twisted... she was thick, seriously stupid... it was like I was speaking to the women who mopes the floors by accident.

What I'm saying is, she simply was not interested in the car at all and like the other response to this thread, like she had better things to be doing... what?, I'm not sure apart from on a Friday stopping toss potts fighting down the local.

I know what will happen if my previous dealings with plod will be, they'll go to the house, some fat copper (as 50% of all coppers I see now seem to be fat) will stand, glance at the car and think "what's this Mr Dodd on about"... paint work's spot on rofl and they'll close the incident... there's no way she's recorded properly what the defect to the car was... that's my problem...

I dont think they have the time tbh to be checking on cars that have in all likelihood recently been in an accident and due to be repaired..

The car didn't look like it'd just been in an accident, it's like it's had one and done a piss poor job repairing it, and it's now a shed... however what difference that make... if it'd just been in an accident, it shouldn't be on the road until worthy and there's no way it is. Wish I'd got a picture of it now...

Plus, sorry, a Public Transport vehicle that's look like it's been in one almighty smash, and is dangerous, they haven't got time to look at this? Well what do they do if they don't have time to look at a **** box?... as the previous two times I've had to get police involved...

1). My son got hit by a pikey (gypo) scumbag in the face, got his phone stolen... we knew where the gypo camp was, and the Police did nothing stating they wouldn't be able to find the culprit and apologizing for it... , absolutely nothing done apart from take a statement, so I had to sort that particular problem out myself.

2). My sons bike gets nicked (and it was an very expensive bike and a one off), we gave a picture, chassis numbers etc... and don't get me wrong, what can they do here, it's very hard to track down so fair enough... however when they said "if you have a look around in 2nd hand shops and come across it, let us know"... rofl rofl rofl, yeah so I'll do what I thought you guys might do... like I'd bother contacting them if I find it?, once again I'd just sort it myself then shall I.

So to me, no, if it's a legal requirement for us all to be insured, MOT's and licensed and this car is a death trap they make time to sort a potential hazard out. if you'd have seen the car, you'd appreciate how bad this car was...

[JanetMorris]

due to be repaired..

Which means it hasn't yet BEEN repaired, which means it shouldn't be on the road.

Busted up vehicles are a danger to the driver of the vehicle and to other people on the road. I don't want my life endangered because someone's vehicle is in such poor shape they can't properly control it. It's no different than having a drunk driver on the road.

I've had to dodge my fair share of vehicles because they kept tugging strongly in one direction and going halfway into my lane. I shouldn't have to go off roading to protect myself from someone else who can't be arsed to fix their POS.

[Kamepherype]

It might have been one of the sheep getting too old, causing it to veer to the right. I'd have asked him to check how much bahhpower it's got left.

[sportsbettinge]

It might have been one of the sheep getting too old, causing it to veer to the right. I'd have asked him to check how much bahhpower it's got left.

[dWSOj26H]

Police "OK... I'll state that you'd like the police to go around the car owners house and...."

Pug "hold on... I'm not saying anything... I'm stating what I saw... it's upto you guys what you want to do about it..."

You can't blame the person on the line because you didn't want to put your name to a judgement call. You chose a level of interaction you were willing to commit to, you said it was dangerous, but you wouldn't commit to having it flagged down and inspected.

If the car was as messed up as you said, you should have manned up and said it as it is. Being pulled over for a few minutes is a lot less hassle than a potential accident.

[Tnzxovoz]

The Police's response to your sons bike getting nicked reminds me of something that happened to me recently, a woman posted on a local facebook trade chain that her sons mountain bike which was brand new and a rare distinct model was stolen from their garage so she asked people to keep a look out for it, thinking logically about where someone would pawn that sort of thing I hopped on ebay and found 2 auctions for the same type of bike, one of the auctions was in the same town that this women lived in, so I notified her of the auction, advised her to pop along to the guy who was selling the bike on ebay, take a friend with her and just enquire to see the bike before auction end, she did this, then as advised, she left the place once she'd confirmed the bike was her sons and she phoned the cops, when the cops came they checked the guys other items for sale and almost 99% of it was stolen.

Do cops not think logically too ?
and check ebay, scrapyards etc or can they just not be ar$ed, apparently this guy, bought lots of stolen items off of the local alcoholics and druggies who steal stuff to fund their habits, then he flogs it quick and cheap on ebay the same day or the same week and then the stuff ends up all over the country.

With a bit of help from me, this woman got her sons bike back and the cops smashed a major selling point for locally nicked stuff.

People like the driver of the 406, usually have more "under their belt" than just a dodgy car, the guy might not have even had insurance or even a taxi licence and by investigating the cops could have cleared up other crimes too, but they just don't think logically, do they ?

[PWRichard]

The Police's response to your sons bike getting nicked reminds me of something that happened to me recently, a woman posted on a local facebook trade chain that her sons mountain bike which was brand new and a rare distinct model was stolen from their garage so she asked people to keep a look out for it, thinking logically about where someone would pawn that sort of thing I hopped on ebay and found 2 auctions for the same type of bike, one of the auctions was in the same town that this women lived in, so I notified her of the auction, advised her to pop along to the guy who was selling the bike on ebay, take a friend with her and just enquire to see the bike before auction end, she did this, then as advised, she left the place once she'd confirmed the bike was her sons and she phoned the cops, when the cops came they checked the guys other items for sale and almost 99% of it was stolen.

Do cops not think logically too ?
and check ebay, scrapyards etc or can they just not be ar$ed, apparently this guy, bought lots of stolen items off of the local alcoholics and druggies who steal stuff to fund their habits, then he flogs it quick and cheap on ebay the same day or the same week and then the stuff ends up all over the country.

With a bit of help from me, this woman got her sons bike back and the cops smashed a major selling point for locally nicked stuff.

People like the driver of the 406, usually have more "under their belt" than just a dodgy car, the guy might not have even had insurance or even a taxi licence and by investigating the cops could have cleared up other crimes too, but they just don't think logically, do they ?

You've summed up the point I'm trying to make perfectly, they don't use logic and they can't be arsed because of all the "real" crime they deal with, whatever that is.... god news on that bike though!

[CialisBestPrice]

I dont think they have the time tbh to be checking on cars that have in all likelihood recently been in an accident and due to be repaired..

If it was in Australia the police would be all over it.

You can literally call the police up anonymously, tell them someone had been hooning (even if your making it up) and get their plate numbers and type of car and it will be confiscated from owner for 30 days with demerit points and fine.

By the time the owner fights it in caught the 30 days will be up, he will have court fees, impound fees and won't be refunded for the fine.

Cops are even allowed to inspect your car for defects or illegal modifications. And given most cops know little to nothing about cars they generally make **** up if they are having a bad day or they don't like your attitude forcing your car off the road and forcing you to pay for road worthy inspection.

So much revenue gets made on Australian roads. Should have seen the Easter Holidays. They reduced speed limits everywhere and had speed traps around every corner along with a massive amount of extra police patrolling the roads.

If someone reported a damaged car cops would be all over it.

[PickEmUp]

All you needed to do was say, "YES", the car is dangerous and should be pulled over ASAP.
Of course, if you prefer to keep out of it and seeing some innocent passenger being killed or maimed, that's your call.

No different from our local *555 to report dangerous drivers but, unfortunately, it's a bit like the Aussie case where the word of the anonymous complainent seems to carry more weight that the driver reported.

[MeeveStesia]

You should be able to phone up anonymously and help them out, but they seem hell bent on being arse holes.

They also spend too much time pulling people over who are doing 66mph in a 60, instead of pulling over people driving like complete idiots or in vehicles unroadworthy.

[JessicaLin]

You should be able to phone up anonymously and help them out, but they seem hell bent on being arse holes.

They also spend too much time pulling people over who are doing 66mph in a 60, instead of pulling over people driving like complete idiots or in vehicles unroadworthy.

66 mph is still breaking the law if the speed limit is 60 and u should get pulled for it.

[MrGunjMan_]

66 mph is still breaking the law if the speed limit is 60 and u should get pulled for it.

It isn't because there is a margin of 10% + 2mph to take into account faulty speedo's / speed cameras.

Saying that, people who drive just above the speed limit annoy me more than those who completely ignore it because they are driving around waving two fingers at the law.

[Narcodran]

I think Pug is being the good citizen but it's being spat back in his face as the operator is just being plain daft with the questions. Though I do agree that maybe you should have put your foot down in order for him/her to shut up and get the car seen to.

These systems shouldn't be made difficult or complicated as those who do bother to report crime / incidents would give up.

[Teprophopay]

Sorry Pug, but the onus is on you to make a complaint and state is as such, otherwise the police can't really act.

[popillio]

It isn't because there is a margin of 10% + 2mph to take into account faulty speedo's / speed cameras.

Saying that, people who drive just above the speed limit annoy me more than those who completely ignore it because they are driving around waving two fingers at the law.

The 10+2 seems to be a recommended guideline rather than a fixed policy.

Down here they introduced the RADAR traps as having a 10kph allowance but they then introduced a 5kph allowance on holidays - or when they felt like it.
As the speedo's are allowed to read up to 10% fast, but not slow, you can have noddies sitting in the passing lane at quite a bit below the legal speed, let alone within the tolerance - however, with a lot of 4WD vehicles fitting oversized tyres, they could be quite a bit above the limit, anyway!
Cameras just result in a fine but if an officer pulls you for speding, you'll also get points on your licence - perhaps because when they pull the driver over, they actually know who was doing the speeding.
I've a RADAR/LIDAR, etc, detector that was top of the range when bought but, TBH, it hardly got used and has been in the box for almost the last three years. I was really only for passing lanes as most drivers here seem to drive well under the speed limit on the open road until they reach a passing lane when they put their feet down - means you have to go quite a bit faster for a safe pass (TED) before slowing down to a more legal pace. Unfortunately, the Gestapo tend to take advantage of this and put their traps towards the ends of these lanes hence the need for the detector. Of late, though, I tend to cruise just over the legal speed and see what sort of fuel mileage I can get - around 50 mp(IMP)g.

What's more important, IMO, is maintaining following distances, staying in the lane unless indicating first, looking after the vehicle maintainance, etc.

[DownloadADOBEsoftware]

Sorry Pug, but the onus is on you to make a complaint and state is as such, otherwise the police can't really act.

I did, however, it's not for me to decide what I want them to do. I give them the facts, if they feel they should act, follow their process, NOT put the onus back on the one who's reporting it. I'm not a policeman, therefore, I'm not in a position to advise them how to do their job. I know for next time, I'll just follow the cab home, drag the fecker out the car, bitch slap him and remove the battery from the car lol... oh yeah and then slap the frigger again lol

[igs00r]

66 mph is still breaking the law if the speed limit is 60 and u should get pulled for it.

So one should always be punished with zero tolerance for any, most minute, violation of any law, correct?