[cookiemonster]

I think the hardest thing for me about being awake (granted, I'm not read up on the EXTENT of all the conspiracies, but I know enough to know that the government is out to get all of us) is being alone with my MIL when she gets in a lecture mood about something about which she feels strongly. I'm on a trip right now with the boys and husband's family, and I'm all alone!!!

She knows there's something wrong with the government, but that seems to be about as far as she takes it. She (and others) won't understand our distrust and paranoia about cops and the government in general. That gets really hard for me when I'm the only one awake in a group of people.

Today's lecture was about vaccines....She can't understand why we haven't vaccinated our boys yet. Now, we are going to give them tetanus without the pertussis. She feels VERY STRONGLY that we should vaccinate against polio and rubella (telling me that if I were ever pregnant in my first trimester around someone with rubella, our unborn baby WILL have defects...). You know, Horseshoe3 and I are not stupid about vaccines, and she's acting as if we don't care about the health of our children!!

She tries to get into my head about her ideas every so often when I'm "cornered", and it gets very frustrating when I'm the one more awake than she is!!

[amotoustict]

I feel for you sugarplum.... I had the MIL from mars..... Easiest thing to do is to blame it on her son (your husband) you gotta do what you gotta do to get through the trip.

My favorite one was well you know_______ ,and he is the boss. What can I do?

Oh and block her let it go in one ear and out the other !

[Ekzamenov]

Very frustrating! I have realized that some people just refuse to even think about our 'conspiracies' so what I do is sometimes bring up a small detail of whatever is on my mind at the moment. I am pretty subtle to the sheep but I plant seeds. One acquaintance with a head as hard as a rock, over the course of a summer and maybe 10 or 12 beer drinking events he recited back to me some of the stuff I was planting. I mean he wasn't even close to being awake but them seeds did sprout. I was actually proud that he acknowledged that some stuff just isn't right.

[durootrium]

pretty much except for my direct family and a couple friends, everyone else prefers to stay in the matrix.

I have one friend who is convinced he is so right on politically, I don't even talk politics with him. nobody is more enlightened than he, because he listens to CNN, Obmama is the best president ever, If it weren't for the big O's health care his parents would be dead now, the only reason the big O can't get more things done is because of the republican congress. Typical spoon fed idiot. So much schooling, sooo little understanding.

[Spisivavona]

I quit talking to sheep.

It isn't worth my time.

[Dyerryjex]

When sheep start talking like they "know" so much and are insulting you . . . Start asking them the real questions. Don't tell the answers, but ask some questions . . .

About the relationship with Autism and vaccines.
About building 7, the dancing Isralies and 911.
About "sneak and peek" from the Patriot Act.

Then follow up with "I can send you some links . . . ." End of Conversation!!

[Nwxffgke]

vaccines+aborted human fetal tissue generally shuts em up right quick.

[Cogebrego]

"Even if you tell the truth, perhaps because you tell the truth, no one will believe you."
-Satanic axiom

The tough part is to have compassion for these people that are so hopelessly entrenched in the matrix. These people lack the capacity of to see the truth, and that is very sad indeed.

dys

[MADwanker]

I feel your pain. Although with my own family, not in-laws. I found research to be the best way to reach them, the more I know and can come back with intelligent arguments the more they listen and research on their own.

[fenter1]

i don't do it anymore. i preached to them for 5 years. it's their fault now.

[Spisivavona]

I talked to some sheep last night.

They were amazed with my garden. I got cornered into a conversation basically.

Anyhow, after talking for 15 minutes or so they had to go home to watch "Dancing with the Stars", I shit you not.
Don't have a computer, just a teevee, barbie and star wars collections.


Yep...


Where would one even start a discussion with those sheep?

[Twelearly]

my mom has called me paranoid and crazy. she's an obama supporter.

i feel ya...

[Nmoitmzr]

Anyhow, after talking for 15 minutes or so they had to go home to watch "Dancing with the Stars", I shit you not.
Don't have a computer, just a teevee, barbie and star wars collections.

There is sheepdom and there is just plain dumbass. Of course this tends to go hand in hand somewhat, but there are reasonably intelligent people out there who are sheep. Sometimes it's because of apathy or they may be cursed with the happy-go-lucky, head-in-sand personality type.

If they are dumbasses, I find it's best to avoid them at all costs. Even if they have the best intentions they are nothing but trouble. If they have a few brain cells, it's always worth my time to plant a few seeds of thought, carefully tailored to suit their predispositions.

[Muhabsssa]

You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. ... so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it

[PPActionnGuys]

My family and friends listen carefully when I try to enlighten them. Seriously. But I deliver it in good measure, rather than all at once. They accept some of it right away, and the rest they simply ponder. They know I'm on to something.

That's the thing: With all the shit that's going on, a lot of people are now starting to think that the "extremists" are on to something.

[cookiemonster]

Thanks for letting me vent you guys.

We have a strange situation...both sides of our family hate Obama, and most will vocalize that there's something wrong with the government, and my MIL respects our opinions about politics.....But when I get paranoid about getting pulled over when I see signs for a drug checkpoint, I get "Most cops aren't like that" from my SIL when I tell her about the woman who got thrown in jail for buying Sudafed across county lines. Also, when we voice opinions about subjects such as medicine or raw milk, we're written off as off our rockers! My husband gets accused of being too much like his grandpa, and his mother (my MIL) won't open up to learn about WHY....Perhaps because my SIL is a nurse and she'd feel as if she's betraying her daughter? But Mamboni is a doctor and one of us. IT'S NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, PEOPLE!

It's hard for me when my MIL gets seemingly offended by our views and tries to convince ME that her son is off his rocker and just being stubborn like his grandpa!!

[Saad Khan]

Beware being too rational in the country of the insane...... the intergrated person is not made King or Queen.

They get lynched.

A Huxley

[Immampdah]

I'm about the same as Chad. it's been years now, years of..... well... you know. Buy PM's, don't completely 100% believe everything that is said on the TV, listen to candidates campaign promises then look at what actually happens, etc.

I know this is a bad attitude but you know what? Fuck it. I've said my piece and tried to go against the tide incessantly to NO avail. Some of these people may be my blood, but there is only so much that one can do.

[Lerpenoaneway]

When you first wake up you are looking around you and screaming at everyone, "Wake up! Everything is a lie! We live in the Matrix!" Of course, people don't wake up. They just roll their eyes, giggle at you, and usually get angry with you for trying to wake them up.

This is a very depressing period since you feel more and more alone. You eventually comes to terms that most humans are soulless and dead inside, so you probably will start hating humanity. It makes sense why humanity is and always will be enslaved: Since most people are pushovers and will do whatever anyone of "authority" tells them since they are collectivist minded that way. Most humans are like this. If they weren't then there would be no wars, since no one would show up to fight them. There would be no taxes since no one would pay them. Humanity is enslaved since it's in our very nature to be slaves. At least most humans. The few non-slave like humans at the Lower Classes of society feel lost and trapped and I think everyone on this forum can relate since it's really frustrating and hopeless.

I think the best way to resist at this point is to turn inwards. To do everything you can with you knowledge to improve your situation and life. I'm in the process of doing this, and it makes the world feel less shitty since it empowers me. The system is in the process of a collapse, and it's unknown if the Elite will be able to transition it into a new system or not but it doesn't matter. You should be worrying about surviving this collapse and improving yourself. I'm always finding new ways to improve my health, intelligence, and so forth. You cannot save the world, that only happens in the movies.

Live by example as best as you can, and then you will be more of an authority figure by your own deeds and more people will listen to you.

I focus on alternative medicine and diet. My health has radically improved. This has given me credibility amongst my family and friends. Now some people in my family and friends listen to the other stuff, and I've been able to partially wake them up to what's going on to an extent. People who want to wake up completely can only do it themselves if they want it.


Also this:

[GypeFeeshyTes]

Piss on em. I too have spent years trying to talk to those around me, and I just got tired of banging my head against the wall. After all is said and done, For the most part, all you end up doing is tweaking your melon...and in the end the wall remains.