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There is NO "alien" UFO's (it's ALL government propaganda) ALL UFO's are man-made and NOT from some "alien" technology found and re-engineered. How gullible some folks are, hellywood propaganda at it's best.
NASA space program = Convienent excuse to bilk folks out of tax dollars for going to the moon, mars, venus, etc. Of course, ways of doing this have changed, there are far superiors ways now... but NASA is still good for some and they need to keep some validity so the program needs to stay in place. The glorified golf cart was a sure proof, for me personally, that they never went. NO WAY they would / COULD drag that thing all the way there, plus the way it travels (the dirts spins out from the wheels, etc) in the videos PROVE is was done ON EARTH. |
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The fact we have never gone back speaks volumes to the possibility. I've been a Project Bluebook enthusiast and the USAF has some advanced aircraft and propulsion that is suspicious considering 100 years ago we were still running horses on main street delivering ice and selling apples for five cents. i would have to ask an experienced engineer & a knowledgeable historian, who was in the age range 45 to 65 - in 1969- who watched, to see what their BS meter told them. it is odd that we didn't go back. i wonder if they did go, as described by the astronauts (or were they hired for their willingness to lie, like so many other public & corporate employees ?) ... and then found themselves in over their head. maybe they ran into a redneck ET who told them to stay on Earth and fired a redneck ET shotgun over their heads. |
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i would have to ask an experienced engineer & a knowledgeable historian, who was in the age range 45 to 65 - in 1969- who watched, to see what their BS meter told them. it is odd that we didn't go back. i wonder if they did go, as described by the astronauts (or were they hired for their willingness to lie, like so many other public & corporate employees ?) ... and then found themselves in over their head. maybe they ran into a redneck ET who told them to stay on Earth and fired a redneck ET shotgun over their heads.
i would have to ask an experienced engineer & a knowledgeable historian, who was in the age range 45 to 65 - in 1969- who watched, to see what their BS meter told them. it is odd that we didn't go back. i wonder if they did go, as described by the astronauts (or were they hired for their willingness to lie, like so many other public & corporate employees ?) ... and then found themselves in over their head. maybe they ran into a redneck ET who told them to stay on Earth and fired a redneck ET shotgun over their heads. I'd love to go back to horse transport, even on a limited local scale. I've even thought that having horses or accessability to them might be of great value at some point. LMFAO! That's some funny shit....redneck ET's..thanks fer the chuckles!! |
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maybe they ran into a redneck ET who told them to stay on Earth and fired a redneck ET shotgun over their heads. Everywhere a critical somewhat informed eye looks one can see the flaws, but its really the bulk of circumstantial evidence that makes the case. Watching the dune buggy bounce around, the Space shuttle suits, advanced and for less harsh environment 3 times heavier, shots of the men in the cramped module, who would have had it worse if the module actually contained the top of the rocket engine as shown in the Museum, UFO's being explained by plasma effects (EU theory), the drugged or MKUltra'd like resentment in some ex-astronaut interviews come first to mind. |
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hey as long as we are on the UFO/Alien topic
recommend a book cosmic pulse of life http://www.trevorjamesconstable.com/ that book converted me on the UFO, from non-believer to believer |
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Not sure how to embed the picture but here is the link.
http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikiped...nar_Module.jpg Notice the shoddy craftsmanship? You think they spent billions in 1960's money to build that kind of crap? You think anyone in their right mind would be willing to go in outer space in something that looks like some kids glued together in the garage? Sure in 1969 this looked pretty cool but in today's world it looks totally fake. Gaps in the paneling?? WTF it would have been one piece they spared no expense right? |
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Also those directional thrusters look like cones glued on. The one thruster you can see into on the right side of the lander has no indication of having been used and the blast shield under the one pointing down just below it also has no indication that heat or flames hit it, looks clean to me. the cones looked like they were machined on a lathe. Something pretty much anyone could do. In fact you could build an exact replica identical to the eye with simple tools.
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I'm still not entirely convinced of the existence of the "moon". So I can't say whether or not man has traveled to a place that may or may not exist. |
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I would like to clarify as Gonzo did:
There seems to be 2 groups of people, 1 group claims we never went, the other group claims the video and photos they gave us are fake. Group 2 has a lot of very smart, educated, scientists who specialize in many different fields. Group 1 has some of those people, but more of the 'hardcore' conspiracy theorists. Check out this pic from NASA's own site: ![]() Really? Watch 1:55 - 2:05 repeatedly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcpMdvu2MWw One of the best books IMO on the subject NASA Mooned America By Ralph Rene |
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Also there is no sense to why different wrapping materials were used in certain places. Silver aluminum foil wrapped where the directional thrusters are located except on the top where the wrapping is what appears to be the tar paper you use as vapor barrier on the outside of a house. So you need silver in one area to deflect the heat but black in another with the same type of thruster?? That doesn't make any fucking sense. then in other areas you have more black paper wrapped around the joints of the support tubes but the tubes are OK to be left plain? You have to protect the joints of the tubes but there are fucking gaps in the paneling on the side of the lander
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I would like to clarify as Gonzo did: btw, reportedly all the moon astronauts were 33rd degree masons (they know how to keep secret me guesses) |
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This website is very interesting:
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/index.html One of the arguments the author, David McGowan, makes for why the mooon landing didn't happen is: (from http://davesweb.cnchost.com/Apollo1.html ) "Consider this peculiar fact: in order to reach the surface of the Moon from the surface of the Earth, the Apollo astronauts would have had to travel a minimum of 234,000 miles*. Since the last Apollo flight allegedly returned from the Moon in 1972, the furthest that any astronaut from any country has traveled from the surface of the Earth is about 400 miles. And very few have even gone that far. The primary components of the current U.S. space program – the space shuttles, the space station, and the Hubble Telescope – operate at an orbiting altitude of about 200 miles. (*NASA gives the distance from the center of Earth to the center of the Moon as 239,000 miles. Since the Earth has a radius of about 4,000 miles and the Moon’s radius is roughly 1,000 miles, that leaves a surface-to-surface distance of 234,000 miles. The total distance traveled during the alleged missions, including Earth and Moon orbits, ranged from 622,268 miles for Apollo 13 to 1,484,934 miles for Apollo 17. All on a single tank of gas.) To briefly recap then, in the twenty-first century, utilizing the most cutting-edge modern technology, the best manned spaceship the U.S. can build will only reach an altitude of 200 miles. But in the 1960s, we built a half-dozen of them that flew almost 1,200 times further into space. And then flew back. And they were able to do that despite the fact that the Saturn V rockets that powered the Apollo flights weighed in at a paltry 3,000 tons, about .004% of the size that the principal designer of those very same Saturn rockets had previously said would be required to actually get to the Moon and back (primarily due to the unfathomably large load of fuel that would be required). To put that into more Earthly terms, U.S. astronauts today travel no further into space than the distance between the San Fernando Valley and Fresno. The Apollo astronauts, on the other hand, traveled a distance equivalent to circumnavigating the planet around the equator nine-and-a-half times! And they did it with roughly the same amount of fuel that it now takes to make that 200 mile journey, which is why I want NASA to build my next car for me. I figure I’ll only have to fill up the tank once and it should last me for the rest of my life." |
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