Forum intelligence test: Did we make it to the moon?
 

Read it and vote.. or not. Amounts to the same! http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/grin.gif

Bombers Scanned it. The Moon that is.

I said "other", due to the lack of "I don't know" option. The technical case I've heard is mostly above my pay grade, IE the "Van Allen Radiation Belt", impassable by humans in a tin box? HTF am I s'posed to evaluate that claim? I've seen the photographic & video "anomalies" case made by the skeptics too- compelling in some cases, but again, I'm a skeptic's skeptic, so even their review of the photos leaves open many possibilities. So short version = I don't know, but I certainly allow for the possibility that it was all hoaxed up.

"But the Soviets would've called out the hoax!" Well maybe, but we know now Soviet/Communism was "false opposition" in fact run by the same banksters who rule the West.

Hollywood even produced the 1978 movie "Capricorn One" starring OJ Slasher Simpson, about a hoaxed Mars mission, very suggestive. "A NASA Mars mission won't work, and its funding is endangered, so they decide to fake it just this once. But then they have to keep the secret... "

Eric SuperFreak Hufschmid's moon hoax page, http://www.erichufschmid.net/Apollo_NASA.html

Apollo skeptic Bart Sibrel's site: http://www.moonmovie.com
He made the documentary, "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon".

Of course, when this 34 second outtake was leaked, the skeptics had their indisputable pwoof,
http://www.spike.com/video-clips/itv...apollo-landing http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/grin.gif

no, we never went

Patcolo had a few reasons why

the main thing is that when the russians sent up chimps in the early stages, they all came home looking like they had spent a few days in the microwave oven (set on high)

the radiation up there is incredible.

the technology was not around then to permit us to safely travel there

and it begs the question, in all of man's "evolution", why have we never gone back?

I mean once you do something a few times, in theory it gets easier, more routine.

we supposedly went to the moon 12-13 times? and we never went back?

now the last I heard was we might be able to go back by 2025

Imagine you make a dozen trips to the south pole, its cold and grueling, very difficult, but you learn stuff, and get better each time.

then you stop going, and decide it will take 40+ years to ever go back again.....

and in the meantime, no one else around the planet is able to duplicate your effort, and make the journey, they all decide to wait 40 years also....

in looking at the moon mission, part of it I suspect came from the famous "war of the worlds" radio show in the 50's

TPTB realized how easily most Americans are duped.

once the TV got more widespread, they used that meme to their advantage...

since the last Apollo Mission was in 1972, and there'd been several (11 or 12?) Moon Missions and at least a half dozen landings, I think the attitude was to look at Low Earth Orbit Programs..ie the Shuttle (first shuttle flight was in 1981? '82?) and installing various satellites (communication,military,navigatory) into various degrees of orbits around the Earth ...I'm just guessing though http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/cheesy.gif

I always thought it odd that there was no blast crater at all. Wouldn't they need thrust while landing to slow their motion so they didn't crash?

Cheese doesn't exert gravity on spacepods! Even more amazing that they could bring a lunar rover with them in a pod that only weighs 2 tons excluding the fuel. The take off from the moon was much too fast, for the lunar pods rockets too. Many unexplained anomalies...

I went with no. Too many problems with the story. No crater or scorch marks left by the lander. Odd light sources in the pictures. One thing that I find very unlikely is that they would be able to take off from the moon and reconnect with the re-entry module, all the steering and timing done by hand, it is like trying to hit a bullet with a bullet.

Don't forget that they "lost" the original, color video footage. So the only video we have is the tapings of the black and white video clips that were aired on TV.

Also to me the moon lander looks like something put together in some guys garage.

As intriguing as it is to think we never pulled it off, I have a hard time discounting people like Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong - both people claim to have witnessed alien UFOs when they landed and stepped down from the lunar module and I'm guessing they found something up there we were not supposed to know about. It took 11 missions to work out the details, but I believe there is an alien base on the moon and we are not alone. The fact we have never gone back speaks volumes to the possibility. I've been a Project Bluebook enthusiast and the USAF has some advanced aircraft and propulsion that is suspicious considering 100 years ago we were still running horses on main street delivering ice and selling apples for five cents. The fact the government even bothered to investigate if UFOs were a threat to national security is either a hoax or truth in plain sight.

I don't know if "we" made it to the moon or not... but either way, the footage is bullshit.

Stanley Kubrick's work, by some accounts.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_la...ck_involvement

Seems to me it would be a lot easier to fake this 34-second outtake than to fake the entire moon landing mission.

I used to think, no way did they go to the moon. The moon lander was built out of spray painted cardboard, schedule 40 pvc water pipe, space blankets and duct tape for crying out loud. At least that's what the ridiculous contraption at Cape Canaveral Space Museum is made of. I know this because I used to take chartered bus groups of 5th graders there to visit the place and oftentimes not even the little kids were fooled by the lousy construction materials. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/cheesy.gif

However, these days, what with outsourcing and after watching many UFO video's on youtube... as well as watching trillions of dollars disappear from the pentagon, I'm thinking, not only did they go to the moon, but they may have covertly and in collaboration with alien technology, built the galaxy's most exclusive and well protected vacation resort and condominium complex for the super elite.

I'd say it could go either way.

I think the moon landings were a fake, but I am having difficulty with the huge Saturn rockets they actually launched. What was the point of launching such huge expensive rockets, if they were going to fake the moon landings? Or were the Saturn rockets a fake too?

I know that government bureaucrats are unable to admit mistakes, and capable of weaving huge fabrications to cover mistakes or embarrassing failures. So, can we assume that the whole moon program was a fake? And our astronauts are scam artists? Wouldn't that be a bit too big to be able to cover up successfully?


Hatha

I voted meh, but I don't think they made it.

Some type of brain washing, mindcontrol program, during the one week absence? Many people would think that the the moon trip was real, because they are trying to cover up the aliens/UFO's they saw. The idea of an alien cover up, is more appealing than a hoax moon trip.

Growing up I had no doubt we went to the moon, I mean, hey we watched it happen on tv! My parents even let me stay up well past bedtime because it was so important. Since then I've sifted through all the same things you all have and I'm left with enough doubt to unwaveringly say, I still don't know shit, lol.

The conspiracy side of me thinks that we did find something/someone there and all the doctoring and the footage provided is the covering up of that info.

As a side story: When I was 11-12 we went on vacation to Fl and my mamau went with us, including a trip to Cape Canaveral. Part of the reason for this tour was to make her believe we had gone to the moon because she vehemently said it was total bullshit! Looking back on it now I guess I know where I get my conspiracy gene from. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/grin.gif Oh, even after our tour she still thought it was bullshit.

No.

The astronaut program is probably just an extension of the MK Ultra program.