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Old 12-16-2011, 06:14 PM   #1
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Default Promoting civil rights in Utah
I honestly have no legal problem with it. The only practical argument is the logistical one re: taxes, etc., which could be fixed by just eliminating any and all tax breaks and loopholes and deductions for everyone, which ought to be done anyway, and never ever will.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:13 PM   #2
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My only problem with polygamy is that it can sometimes be a synonym for "marrying a half dozen child brides," but that doesn't mean that polygamy should be illegal, only that the statutes outlawing child brideship should be enforced.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:19 PM   #3
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My only problem with polygamy is that it can sometimes be a synonym for "marrying a half dozen child brides," but that doesn't mean that polygamy should be illegal, only that the statutes outlawing child brideship should be enforced.
I've changed my mind on this issue.

Bringing it into the mainstream would make finding predators easier and make it easier for those who are abused to get help.

There is a case in Canada currently where the first wife (barren) was brought to this country as an aunt, and then could not leave her abusers due to fears of her legal status. Her (and three daughters) ended up the victims of an 'honour' killing.
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:33 PM   #4
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That part's true in most states, and pretty much unenforced. There are anti sodomy laws on the books in most states iirc, but they have been de facto repealed.
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:38 PM   #5
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Whoah, I can understand the marriage license part (though not necessarily agree with it) but cohabiting? What the **** business is that of the states?
People got around polygamy laws by simply cohabiting with their other wives and not "officially" married. When their was fear of Mormons, they wanted to prevent any attempts at polygamy.
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:32 AM   #6
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We had this discussion not too long ago... I remember talk of the complications of how divorce relates to a polygamist marriage... but I think everyone here except for Ben (and probably Kidicious) has no problem with polygamist marriages as long as the parties involved are all of age and the marriage is consensual.
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:18 AM   #7
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I'm certainly in favor of them; there's no reason to force women into the choice between a beta male like albie and a life of celibacy when they could be second or third wife to a successful alpha like myself...
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:22 AM   #8
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This is what happens when I've been drinking, been promoted, and had cute barmaids hit on me...
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:25 AM   #9
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I'm certainly in favor of them; there's no reason to force women into the choice between a beta male like albie and a life of celibacy when they could be second or third wife to a successful alpha like myself...
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:30 AM   #10
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You guys are *******s, ****ing up my troll thread. **** you all.



You might bait Kidicious, but I'm not sure why you would want to do that. Ben is gone so no luck on that front.
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:38 AM   #11
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Any plans to be a 2nd husband hc
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:12 AM   #12
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My problem with these plural marriages is they usually all end up on welfare forever. I generally support short term help for people who need it but the current system is becoming just too generous. A woman with three kids can get $630 per month in food stamps, $800 a month in housing assistance, $500 per month in cash aid, a free cell phone with 250 minutes per month, 2/3rds off utility bills, discounted internet access, free to extremely cheap medical care, free school lunches for the kids (including breakfast), WIC, and who knows what else. That's easily over $2000 per month and most of that never expires (though the cash aid only lasts for 2 years). Worse most of them have a boyfriend on the side who gives them money or helps them out so really they don't need so much.

I'm not saying welfare is a great lifestyle but it should just be enough to help out for a very short period of time instead of $20,000-$30,000 per year for 1-3 decades. Give them enough to make sure no one dies of starvation and anything more than s/he needs to get a job. It's just absurd.
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:41 AM   #13
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501368_1...tag=re1.latest


Why shouldn't this be legal? Give me a solid argument. These people love each other. Who are you to deny them their inalienable right to have the government recognize it on a piece of paper?
Why should we change the laws to suit the whims of a loony religious cult? That sounds like a stupid idea. Explain how a widespread practice of men taking three or four wives doesn't make women subordinate to men.
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Old 12-17-2011, 03:10 PM   #14
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Why should we change the laws to suit the whims of a loony religious cult?
For the same reasons you change the laws to suit the whims of another minority (gays), equal protection claims.
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:35 PM   #15
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For the same reasons you change the laws to suit the whims of another minority (gays), equal protection claims.
I even bolded it for him. Kinda sad that he couldn't figure it out...
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:42 PM   #16
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For the same reasons you change the laws to suit the whims of another minority (gays), equal protection claims.
Oh I see. Heterosexuals have perfectly logical acceptable civil rights- like marriage and divorce (see Britney Spears and Elizabeth Taylor and Zsa Zsa Gabor, et cetera, et cetera...). 'Gays' have 'whims'. That's so funny.
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Old 12-17-2011, 06:44 PM   #17
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Oh I see. Heterosexuals have perfectly logical acceptable civil rights- like marriage and divorce (see Britney Spears and Elizabeth Taylor and Zsa Zsa Gabor, et cetera, et cetera...). 'Gays' have 'whims'. That's so funny.
No one said it was a civil right. In fact, I would argue that it is not. It is simply government bookkeeping.

Also ha ha, it's so funny, mormons have whims.
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Old 12-17-2011, 07:10 PM   #18
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Don't judge their relationship. For all you know they could be in a perfectly loving and respectful relationship. You are a bigot against mormons--that is the only reason you oppose this. If you were a good person and believed in civil rights, you would understand the moral necessity of the government recognizing their marriage.
You are stupid.
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Old 12-17-2011, 07:55 PM   #19
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You are stupid.
And with that post, you are Kidicious.
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Old 12-17-2011, 08:45 PM   #20
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Oh I see. Heterosexuals have perfectly logical acceptable civil rights- like marriage and divorce (see Britney Spears and Elizabeth Taylor and Zsa Zsa Gabor, et cetera, et cetera...). 'Gays' have 'whims'. That's so funny.
Hello, MrFun. Please learn to follow the context of a conversation before going off in an overly emotional huff.
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