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HugoSimon 12-09-2011 03:29 PM

AG Holder: "Lying has to do with your state of mind."
 
That's right folks, if you don't perceive that you're lying, then you're not. If you can change the perception of others that you're not lying, then you're golden.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...nd_611731.html

gechaheritt 12-09-2011 03:35 PM

Note my signature, apparently Holder has been getting tutoring from Henry.

NofFoomiTot 12-09-2011 03:39 PM

You can't hold me accountable for anything because no matter what I say regardless of facts known by me, I never intend to commit perjury or mislead. Therefore, I never lie.

imnaone 12-09-2011 03:43 PM

"Well it depends on what the meaning of "is" is...."

-Disbarred lawyer and impeached former president Willie Clinton

MackBranon 12-09-2011 03:53 PM

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That's right folks, if you don't perceive that you're lying, then you're not. If you can change the perception of others that you're not lying, then you're golden.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...nd_611731.html
I guess Blago wasn't good at convincing.

Jeaxatoem 12-09-2011 04:21 PM

reminds me of this guy's claims,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j30sWIOMIak

fetesiceWaist 12-09-2011 04:22 PM

Thanks PC, exactly what first came to my mind as well.

ZonaPutaX 12-09-2011 04:47 PM

Wow... I don't recall seeing that Rosenblat story. Whatta scumbag! No money motivation? Well I like that. He can send me the profits.

gortusbig 12-09-2011 04:59 PM

So the conclusion is 'The meaning of lying is whatever we want it to be'?


Hatha

pumpineemob 12-09-2011 05:00 PM

Thanks Eric for a recap on the Sociopath viewpoint when it comes to lying.

GOLAGLULT 12-09-2011 05:15 PM

Oh oh, I get it!!!! So like, if you steal $1.2 billion but convince everyone that you didn't steal it becuase you didn't feel like you were stealing and you didn't intend to break any laws and you didn't intend for it to happen so if it happened because you approved of it it really isn't your fault because you never really intended for it to happen, right?

Where's Jon Corzine, proud graduate of A.S.S. College*** and classmate of Bill Clinton ("it depends on the meaning of 'is'") and Eric ("I didn't lie because I didn't feel that I was lying") Holder?

***A.S.S. College, Advanced Sociopath Studies College

eI7iqNot 12-09-2011 05:24 PM

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So the conclusion is 'The meaning of lying is whatever we want it to be'?

Hatha
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gdjfhdf 12-09-2011 05:25 PM

Yeah, that's the ticket.

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk...a3h5o1_500.jpg



http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkq...y-flanagan_fun

GogaMegaPiska 12-09-2011 05:40 PM

"you can't hold me accountable for anything because no matter what i say regardless of facts known by me, i never intend to commit perjury or mislead. Therefore, i never lie."

QFLOL

en-druzhba 12-09-2011 05:49 PM

George Costanza: "Jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. "

avaiftBoara 12-09-2011 05:51 PM

I am starting to think that there is no truth. You can never be right. But you can certainly be LESS WRONG.

pipittujbk 12-09-2011 06:26 PM

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I am starting to think that there is no truth. You can never be right. But you can certainly be LESS WRONG.
There is a basic truth: that when the people misplace their trust, become complacent and allow themselves to get screwed, robbed, insulted and exploited, there is no shortage of conscienseless sociopathic silver-tongued bastards ready to take advantage of the situation. The cure for assholes like Corzine and Holder is a mad-as-hell public and a guillotine.

Barbshowers 12-09-2011 06:30 PM

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You can never be right. But you can certainly be LESS WRONG.
Not Holder?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/0...un-sting-case/
Near the end of the more-than-five-hour hearing, Issa pressed again on the documents, saying Holder would be in contempt of Congress unless he gave a constitutional reason for holding them back.

When Holder demurred again, Issa said, “That’s how John Mitchell responded.”

Holder replied: “The reference to John Mitchell, let’s think about that … . Have you no shame?”

Issa shot back: “Have you no shame?”

FetMiddle 12-09-2011 06:36 PM

This is 100% a Communist ideology.

The idea that there is no moral absolute. That what i do is either right/wrong depending on my intentions. That there is no God, that there is nothing except for material things: The Theory of Dialectical Materialism.

If i was to injure another man out of my own anger or personal gain, that would be immoral. But if i were to injure the man for the goodness of mankind, that would be moral.

Materialism asserts the primacy of the material world: In short, matter precedes thought.

It isnt what my actions are, its what my intentions were. Right?

WRONG. Morals and Justice are absolute, they DO NOT bend. They do not change with the majority's whim. They cant be changed by 51%. They are commanded by the Creator, and are eternal absolutes.

This is EXACTLY what we were all taught through the Public School system. (10th Plank, Communist Manifesto)

ViktorialHDY 12-09-2011 06:40 PM

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I am starting to think that there is no truth. You can never be right. But you can certainly be LESS WRONG.
The Truth, Absolutely speaking, is the way It Is.


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