Been saying that for years!

What seems to be happening down here, with the draconian speeding enforcement, is that 'drivers think that they're good drivers because they're staying within the speed limnit while answering phones and texting (recently banned, thank goodness), eating, drinking, reading maps, tailgating, chatting to their friends, putting on makeup, etc, etc!

The day they can convince me that 101kph in a new performance vehicle is dangerous and 99kph in a beat up old Landy, with crossply, off road tyres, worn out suspension and drum brakes is safe, is the day I'll start taking the policy seriously!
lack of attention (boredom from driving at a monotonous speed) and tiredness (from having to drive for longer periods) are also know contributions to road crashes.

Ever since getting my licence back I've been a good boy and I'm the slowest guy on the road. By this I mean I actually stick to the speed limit. What I have observed by wiping 5-10km/h off my usual speed is some disgraceful driving practices by Australian motorists. For the first time ever I've felt a little unsafe on the roads. The drivers at least here in Melbourne are insane and will do all sort of stupid things so they can go the extra 10km/h faster than you are going. I have been cut off, people tailgate dangerously close, they will overtake me on country roads around corners!

All of this never used to happen to me because I would normally drive at what would be deemed as acceptable driving pace. No one likes getting caught behind someone doing the legal limit. Just for the record you might say well I lost my licence who am I to judge. But honestly I will say that as much as I was busted for speed I do not do silly things like cut people off or dangerous overtaking, and I was busted on a near empty 4 lane freeway no different to an autobahn. I have always been cautious about who is around me regardless of my speed and honestly safe driving practices and enforcing them will do more to save lives than cracking down on speed. Speed isn't the only factor in an accident, and Germany's road toll is lower than Australia's yet they have a motorway of unlimited speed but the police enforce all the other rules for safe motoring.

yeah,but you used to drive your car even when you were banned which is worse.... http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/mad1.gif

Yeah because driving a car while suspended (for penalty of one action, not because of many) suddenly makes one me an unsafe driver... [rolleyes]

All it means is I broke the law due to suspension, doesn't mean duing those 6 months I was driving dangerous and endangering lives. There are plenty of licenced drivers out there who drive reckless as hell. Just because you have a licence doesn't mean you're an angel on the road.

no it makes you uninsured and Illegal which is worse than an irresponsible driver, you purposely flouted the law and drove your car with blatant disregard for others on the road and the law,get that into your brain you twank, its a punishment,and not for you to observe when you feel like it.

so in summary, it makes you a criminally liable for driving a vehicle uninsured and driving whilst banned and if you had an accident regardless of who's fault it is you would be deemed as uninsured and unlicensed,meaning the other party would have not recourse for reclaiming isurence costs from your side, and if you think really hard if you had the misfortune of killing someone in your car,and as you intentionally drove it with the knowledge that you were banned that means you would have been done for manslaughter instead of death by dangerous driving.

What a beat up. You make it sound like I'm the biggest road rebel on earth. lol.

Say what you like, just remember next time you break the road law (and all the times you might have already done) and not got caught... you're no better than me mate. Just think of that.

Law is one thing, real physical danger is another. If you want to crap on about law like a lawer, then I'm guilty as you say I am. I make no delusion about that.

Just don't think own **** doesn't stink.

you broke the law, plain and simple, no excuses,as you say,but by breaking the law you became an Irresponsible dangerous driver (because of the act of driving a vehicle whilst banned)

I'm no saint but you put others at risk with your uninsured,unlicensed status.

Ive been banned, but I never even touched my car for the duration of my ban, because I respect others on the road (regardless of how wronged I was by the courts).

I could have driven it safely whilst banned but for me to do that would have been wreckless and dangerous on my part as I knew that I was banned and Unlicensed.

you drove your car because you couldn't be arsed to get a bus,walk or get a lift to the shops which is unacceptable behavior.

and I was really hoping you would have gotten caught by the police and ****ed up the ass over it before your ban expired...

/end rant, I will no longer be beating you up on this in the future,Ive said my piece.

You do realise every day I road 12 km to the train station so I could get to work, with most days I was getting home around 9pm. Infact by having to ride to do a lot of things I almost got run over a few times as the roads here are not wide enough for riding. That was moving more ass than most, and people who understood my situation were mostly sympathetic. It wasn't easy, and I did my best to avoid using my wheels as much as I could.

To be so spiteful about someone you don't even know (and the fact you're a hypocrite anyhow since you've been a banned driver)... man you're a douche.

lol, still doesn't detract from the fact that you still drove your car,where as I didn't.

that's where we differ.

I was stuck in Scotland and I had to get flights and trains back home.... 1,400 mile round trips...exorbitantly expensive..... I had to stay in my block over Christmas and new year because I couldn't get home due to the ban being so close to Christmas and being stuffed for flights.... so don't give me all that flannel...about 12km bicycle rides

bans are exactly that they take away that freedom as a punishment and oh my did I suffer where as you just flouted it willy nilly [rolleyes]

Driving bans aren't something you "do your best" to comply with. You comply with them full stop. If that is inconvenient then tough! You shouldn't have done what you did to get banned in the first place.

Actually, what practical difference does it make? You're still the same driver. You'd be as dangerous licensed or unlicensed. But of course from the law's point of view one case is infinitely worse than the other with severe repurcussions; and which I believe is probably the more plausible reason you kept yourself from driving during your ban at all costs. Rather than some illogical concept of danger.

edit: just read the part about insurance. Ignore.

cool that's 2 against 1 now...

lenny you lose,well you'd lost the argument before it even started.

YCH

I didn't drive because I wouldn't have a leg to stand on,if I was caught,and It would have led to a further ban and seizure and crushing of my car,and I observe the laws of my own country.

Man, you're a douche for driving when banned. At least OHP admits his mistakes. You seem to think that a driving ban is something to abide to when it suits you.

I seem to remember him making a post about picking some chick up in his car too a while back,which is really really irresponsible

Oh God lol... now you're even making things up! [rofl]

You're blowing it so far out of proportion it's just outrageous. How can you say I drove a girl about when all I ever used the car for was to pick up my groceries now and then and that is the God honest truth.

BTW could you please honestly tell us what your offence was for being banned? Because you've been really quiet about that part until now.

We could take pot shots at each other all day long. Overall I'm a pretty good law abiding citizen.

But you know why I didn't get caught again while banned OHP? Because 98% of the time I didn't drive my car. I'm not as stupid and reckless as you've made me out to be.

/end

I'm going to make it 4 against 1.

I remember at the time you pretty much disregarded your ban. You fail to see how driving whilst banned is one of the worst motoring offences, as your committing more than one crime just by driving, regardless of how well you drive. And whats more, it essentialy say's you don't give a toss about anyone else on the road because your an uninsured driver. I have no idea how much you drove your car whilst banned, but you made it sound like every day.

Don't know about the Aussies, but here insurance isn't a legal requirement - it's a good idea, though as you'd be liable for the other parties repairs - injury levy is part of the vehicle registration.

Irnsurance isn't a legal requirement in NZ? Wow...

That, and cheap Japanese turbo' imports mean a lot of stupid 'boy racers*' who don't care about crashing into other peoples cars.
It also doesn't help that the Police are no longer turning up for non-injury accidents, so if one hits you, they don't give a damn!

*Chavs with cars - often stolen...

OHP got caught pulling away faster than the limit around parked cars in the middle of the night on a dead road. I believe the last car in the row of parked cars was a police mobile camera?

He then got shafted by the courts when trying to explain himself.

Horse ol' buddy, correct me if I'm wrong.