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**JacksHH** · 01-13-2010, 08:49 AM

And at least two off one of Japan's main ports that got dropped off a carrier!

What we need now is one of the suicide bomber nutters to buy a SCUBA set and go for a dive ...

**gydrorway** · 01-13-2010, 08:52 AM

I first heard about this a while ago. It's pretty local to me, but I think I might be far enough away for me not to be affected if it does go off. What's to be done about it, I dunno.

Go out there and take pictures!
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**b91ZmxzX** · 01-13-2010, 09:10 AM

Go out there and take pictures!

I'm close, but not that close. See the map below. I live in Sittingbourne, at the bottom. The wreck is just off Sheerness, about a 12 minute train ride away. I've been there, but haven't spotted the wreck.

Edit: Never mind, the link was in OHP's original post.

**sisimelanyk** · 01-13-2010, 09:20 AM

Fixed.

LOL

That's one of the funniest pics I've seen in a while.

**Yessaniloas** · 01-13-2010, 09:40 AM

I'm close, but not that close. See the map below. I live in Sittingbourne, at the bottom. The wreck is just off Sheerness, about a 12 minute train ride away. I've been there, but haven't spotted the wreck.
Edit: Never mind, the link was in OHP's original post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHIXMT4sDSs

**JacksHH** · 01-13-2010, 10:37 AM

Some of the links suggest over 3000 tons of explosives left on the ship - reminiscent of the Halifax tragedy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion

**sallythetolly** · 01-13-2010, 11:20 AM

Hopefully the storage of the explosives will prevent it from all going off at once, if it indeed detonates. If some of the explosives detonate, I wonder if the water makes it more or less likely for the rest to detonate.

**b91ZmxzX** · 01-13-2010, 07:03 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHIXMT4sDSs

Ah, Coast. Excellent series.

**Yessaniloas** · 01-13-2010, 07:33 PM

Ah, Coast. Excellent series.

hmm I thought it was ****.. but hey only things of it I found interesting was mounsell forts http://www.undergroundkent.co.uk/maunsell_towers.htm and the ss Montgomery

**b91ZmxzX** · 01-13-2010, 08:03 PM

hmm I thought it was ****.. but hey only things of it I found interesting was mounsell forts http://www.undergroundkent.co.uk/maunsell_towers.htm and the ss Montgomery

What was **** about it? I think it's one of the best documentaries (or programmes even) the BBC has done!

**Yessaniloas** · 01-13-2010, 08:09 PM

What was **** about it? I think it's one of the best documentaries (or programmes even) the BBC has done!

There wasn't any shagging in it

**JacksHH** · 01-13-2010, 08:50 PM

hmm I thought it was ****.. but hey only things of it I found interesting was mounsell forts http://www.undergroundkent.co.uk/maunsell_towers.htm and the ss Montgomery

Yes, I'd heard of these years ago but didn't know what they were - must have been rather scary during storms!

**SM9WI8oI** · 01-13-2010, 10:12 PM

Actually, there is a lost nuclear bomb off the coast of Savannah, GA.

It's rumored there in a bomb in the Monongahela River in Pittsburgh, PA here from when a B-25 crashed into the river. I don't know if it's ever been verified, but supposedly the military tried to cover it up back when it happened, and that was one of the reasons given as to why.

**Pznrrmaf** · 01-13-2010, 10:39 PM

hmm I thought it was ****.. but hey only things of it I found interesting was mounsell forts http://www.undergroundkent.co.uk/maunsell_towers.htm and the ss Montgomery

Those forts are quite cool, you can see them clearly from Southend Pier, walked to the end because I hoped it was possible to see some of the wreck from there but it was too far out. [thumbdown]

**b91ZmxzX** · 01-14-2010, 12:38 AM

Those forts are quite cool, you can see them clearly from Southend Pier, walked to the end because I hoped it was possible to see some of the wreck from there but it was too far out. [thumbdown]

Interesting titbit of information: Southend pier is the longest in the world!

From the map it looks like it would be easiest to see the wreck from Sheerness.

**Yessaniloas** · 12-02-2010, 03:15 AM

IN THE Thames estuary, 60 kilometers from central London, lies the 60-year-old wreck of the American liberty ship Richard Montgomery. It still carries 1400 tonnes of TNT, and according to a report commissioned by the UK government, an explosion is "increasingly probable with the passing of time". Which makes it odd that it has taken four years to publish the report, which will appear this week.

New Scientist revealed last year that the then secret report warned of the dangers posed by the wreck (21 August 2004, p 36). The ship is disintegrating and is likely to start collapsing in 10 to 20 years' time. "Experience from other similar wrecks indicates that the explosion of one munition is likely to result in a mass explosion," the report says. It would be the world's biggest non-nuclear explosion apart from volcanoes, and would cause £1 billion of damage and widespread injuries to the public.
It would be the world's biggest non-nuclear explosion apart from volcanoes

Removing the explosives would mean evacuating 40,000 people for six months. The report's favoured solution is to build an 1800-meter earthwork around the wreck to deaden the blast of the explosion.

info taken from new scientist.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4032629.stm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A22716759

http://www.ssrichardmontgomery.com/i...wsci210804.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Richard_Montgomery

http://www.submerged.co.uk/montgomery.php

same thing happened just off of Folkestone... a ship carrying explosives blew up digging a 20ft crater in the sea bed, causing an earthquake of magnitude 5 on the sphincter scale scaring the towns people to death

oh dear..

**VonErmad4** · 12-02-2010, 03:53 AM

That's quite a lot of explosives, especially when it breaks it down...

286 × 2,000 lb (910 kg) bombs
4,439 × 1,000 lb (450 kg) bombs of various types
1,925 × 500 lb (230 kg) bombs
2,815 fragmentation bombs and bomb clusters
Smoke bombs, including white phosphorus smoke bombs
Pyrotechnic signals
Booster charges

Probably more risky to touch. Bit of a shitter really.

**b91ZmxzX** · 12-02-2010, 04:02 AM

I first heard about this a while ago. It's pretty local to me, but I think I might be far enough away for me not to be affected if it does go off. What's to be done about it, I dunno.

**VonErmad4** · 12-02-2010, 04:05 AM

Well volunteered Bungle! I know its a bit chilly, but go have a swim out a give it a poke with with a stick.

**Bgfbukpf** · 12-02-2010, 04:10 AM

When it said Thames Estuary I thought it meant slap bang in the middle of London for some reason.

Maybe it would be cheaper to evacuate everyone from the area for a day, set the thing off and just pay compensation to the damage caused rather than evacuating and rehousing everyone for six months with the risk of it going off anyway

01-13-2010, 08:49 AM	#1
JacksHH Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 642 Senior Member	And at least two off one of Japan's main ports that got dropped off a carrier! What we need now is one of the suicide bomber nutters to buy a SCUBA set and go for a dive ... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2010, 08:52 AM	#2
gydrorway Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 556 Senior Member	I first heard about this a while ago. It's pretty local to me, but I think I might be far enough away for me not to be affected if it does go off. What's to be done about it, I dunno. Go out there and take pictures! ________ Buy medical marijuana vaporizer Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2010, 09:10 AM	#3
b91ZmxzX Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	Go out there and take pictures! I'm close, but not that close. See the map below. I live in Sittingbourne, at the bottom. The wreck is just off Sheerness, about a 12 minute train ride away. I've been there, but haven't spotted the wreck. Edit: Never mind, the link was in OHP's original post. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2010, 09:20 AM	#4
sisimelanyk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 484 Senior Member	Fixed. LOL That's one of the funniest pics I've seen in a while. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2010, 09:40 AM	#5
Yessaniloas Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 531 Senior Member	I'm close, but not that close. See the map below. I live in Sittingbourne, at the bottom. The wreck is just off Sheerness, about a 12 minute train ride away. I've been there, but haven't spotted the wreck. Edit: Never mind, the link was in OHP's original post. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHIXMT4sDSs Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2010, 10:37 AM	#6
JacksHH Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 642 Senior Member	Some of the links suggest over 3000 tons of explosives left on the ship - reminiscent of the Halifax tragedy! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2010, 11:20 AM	#7
sallythetolly Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 421 Senior Member	Hopefully the storage of the explosives will prevent it from all going off at once, if it indeed detonates. If some of the explosives detonate, I wonder if the water makes it more or less likely for the rest to detonate. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2010, 07:03 PM	#8
b91ZmxzX Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHIXMT4sDSs Ah, Coast. Excellent series. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2010, 07:33 PM	#9
Yessaniloas Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 531 Senior Member	Ah, Coast. Excellent series. hmm I thought it was ****.. but hey only things of it I found interesting was mounsell forts http://www.undergroundkent.co.uk/maunsell_towers.htm and the ss Montgomery Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2010, 08:03 PM	#10
b91ZmxzX Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	hmm I thought it was **.. but hey only things of it I found interesting was mounsell forts http://www.undergroundkent.co.uk/maunsell_towers.htm and the ss Montgomery What was ** about it? I think it's one of the best documentaries (or programmes even) the BBC has done! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2010, 08:09 PM	#11
Yessaniloas Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 531 Senior Member	What was **** about it? I think it's one of the best documentaries (or programmes even) the BBC has done! There wasn't any shagging in it Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2010, 08:50 PM	#12
JacksHH Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 642 Senior Member	hmm I thought it was ****.. but hey only things of it I found interesting was mounsell forts http://www.undergroundkent.co.uk/maunsell_towers.htm and the ss Montgomery Yes, I'd heard of these years ago but didn't know what they were - must have been rather scary during storms! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2010, 10:12 PM	#13
SM9WI8oI Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 412 Senior Member	Actually, there is a lost nuclear bomb off the coast of Savannah, GA. It's rumored there in a bomb in the Monongahela River in Pittsburgh, PA here from when a B-25 crashed into the river. I don't know if it's ever been verified, but supposedly the military tried to cover it up back when it happened, and that was one of the reasons given as to why. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2010, 10:39 PM	#14
Pznrrmaf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 361 Senior Member	hmm I thought it was ****.. but hey only things of it I found interesting was mounsell forts http://www.undergroundkent.co.uk/maunsell_towers.htm and the ss Montgomery Those forts are quite cool, you can see them clearly from Southend Pier, walked to the end because I hoped it was possible to see some of the wreck from there but it was too far out. [thumbdown] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-14-2010, 12:38 AM	#15
b91ZmxzX Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	Those forts are quite cool, you can see them clearly from Southend Pier, walked to the end because I hoped it was possible to see some of the wreck from there but it was too far out. [thumbdown] Interesting titbit of information: Southend pier is the longest in the world! From the map it looks like it would be easiest to see the wreck from Sheerness. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-02-2010, 03:15 AM	#16
Yessaniloas Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 531 Senior Member	Wrecked ship could trigger massive explosion IN THE Thames estuary, 60 kilometers from central London, lies the 60-year-old wreck of the American liberty ship Richard Montgomery. It still carries 1400 tonnes of TNT, and according to a report commissioned by the UK government, an explosion is "increasingly probable with the passing of time". Which makes it odd that it has taken four years to publish the report, which will appear this week. New Scientist revealed last year that the then secret report warned of the dangers posed by the wreck (21 August 2004, p 36). The ship is disintegrating and is likely to start collapsing in 10 to 20 years' time. "Experience from other similar wrecks indicates that the explosion of one munition is likely to result in a mass explosion," the report says. It would be the world's biggest non-nuclear explosion apart from volcanoes, and would cause £1 billion of damage and widespread injuries to the public. It would be the world's biggest non-nuclear explosion apart from volcanoes Removing the explosives would mean evacuating 40,000 people for six months. The report's favoured solution is to build an 1800-meter earthwork around the wreck to deaden the blast of the explosion. info taken from new scientist. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4032629.stm http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A22716759 http://www.ssrichardmontgomery.com/i...wsci210804.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Richard_Montgomery http://www.submerged.co.uk/montgomery.php same thing happened just off of Folkestone... a ship carrying explosives blew up digging a 20ft crater in the sea bed, causing an earthquake of magnitude 5 on the sphincter scale scaring the towns people to death oh dear.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-02-2010, 03:53 AM	#17
VonErmad4 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 543 Senior Member	That's quite a lot of explosives, especially when it breaks it down... 286 × 2,000 lb (910 kg) bombs 4,439 × 1,000 lb (450 kg) bombs of various types 1,925 × 500 lb (230 kg) bombs 2,815 fragmentation bombs and bomb clusters Smoke bombs, including white phosphorus smoke bombs Pyrotechnic signals Booster charges Probably more risky to touch. Bit of a shitter really. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-02-2010, 04:02 AM	#18
b91ZmxzX Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	I first heard about this a while ago. It's pretty local to me, but I think I might be far enough away for me not to be affected if it does go off. What's to be done about it, I dunno. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-02-2010, 04:05 AM	#19
VonErmad4 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 543 Senior Member	Well volunteered Bungle! I know its a bit chilly, but go have a swim out a give it a poke with with a stick. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-02-2010, 04:10 AM	#20
Bgfbukpf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 380 Senior Member	When it said Thames Estuary I thought it meant slap bang in the middle of London for some reason. Maybe it would be cheaper to evacuate everyone from the area for a day, set the thing off and just pay compensation to the damage caused rather than evacuating and rehousing everyone for six months with the risk of it going off anyway Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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