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JacksHH 01-13-2010 08:49 AM

And at least two off one of Japan's main ports that got dropped off a carrier!

What we need now is one of the suicide bomber nutters to buy a SCUBA set and go for a dive ...

gydrorway 01-13-2010 08:52 AM

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I first heard about this a while ago. It's pretty local to me, but I think I might be far enough away for me not to be affected if it does go off. What's to be done about it, I dunno.
Go out there and take pictures!
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b91ZmxzX 01-13-2010 09:10 AM

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Go out there and take pictures!
I'm close, but not that close. See the map below. I live in Sittingbourne, at the bottom. The wreck is just off Sheerness, about a 12 minute train ride away. I've been there, but haven't spotted the wreck.



http://www.submerged.co.uk/monty%205%20big.jpg

Edit: Never mind, the link was in OHP's original post.

sisimelanyk 01-13-2010 09:20 AM

LOL

That's one of the funniest pics I've seen in a while.

Yessaniloas 01-13-2010 09:40 AM

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I'm close, but not that close. See the map below. I live in Sittingbourne, at the bottom. The wreck is just off Sheerness, about a 12 minute train ride away. I've been there, but haven't spotted the wreck.
Edit: Never mind, the link was in OHP's original post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHIXMT4sDSs

JacksHH 01-13-2010 10:37 AM

Some of the links suggest over 3000 tons of explosives left on the ship - reminiscent of the Halifax tragedy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion

sallythetolly 01-13-2010 11:20 AM

Hopefully the storage of the explosives will prevent it from all going off at once, if it indeed detonates. If some of the explosives detonate, I wonder if the water makes it more or less likely for the rest to detonate.

b91ZmxzX 01-13-2010 07:03 PM

Ah, Coast. Excellent series. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/cool1.gif

Yessaniloas 01-13-2010 07:33 PM

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Ah, Coast. Excellent series. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/cool1.gif
hmm I thought it was ****.. but hey only things of it I found interesting was mounsell forts http://www.undergroundkent.co.uk/maunsell_towers.htm and the ss Montgomery

b91ZmxzX 01-13-2010 08:03 PM

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hmm I thought it was ****.. but hey only things of it I found interesting was mounsell forts http://www.undergroundkent.co.uk/maunsell_towers.htm and the ss Montgomery
What was **** about it? I think it's one of the best documentaries (or programmes even) the BBC has done!

Yessaniloas 01-13-2010 08:09 PM

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What was **** about it? I think it's one of the best documentaries (or programmes even) the BBC has done!
There wasn't any shagging in it http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/devil1.gif

JacksHH 01-13-2010 08:50 PM

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hmm I thought it was ****.. but hey only things of it I found interesting was mounsell forts http://www.undergroundkent.co.uk/maunsell_towers.htm and the ss Montgomery
Yes, I'd heard of these years ago but didn't know what they were - must have been rather scary during storms!

SM9WI8oI 01-13-2010 10:12 PM

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Actually, there is a lost nuclear bomb off the coast of Savannah, GA.
It's rumored there in a bomb in the Monongahela River in Pittsburgh, PA here from when a B-25 crashed into the river. I don't know if it's ever been verified, but supposedly the military tried to cover it up back when it happened, and that was one of the reasons given as to why.

Pznrrmaf 01-13-2010 10:39 PM

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hmm I thought it was ****.. but hey only things of it I found interesting was mounsell forts http://www.undergroundkent.co.uk/maunsell_towers.htm and the ss Montgomery
Those forts are quite cool, you can see them clearly from Southend Pier, walked to the end because I hoped it was possible to see some of the wreck from there but it was too far out. [thumbdown]

b91ZmxzX 01-14-2010 12:38 AM

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Those forts are quite cool, you can see them clearly from Southend Pier, walked to the end because I hoped it was possible to see some of the wreck from there but it was too far out. [thumbdown]
Interesting titbit of information: Southend pier is the longest in the world!

From the map it looks like it would be easiest to see the wreck from Sheerness.

Yessaniloas 12-02-2010 03:15 AM

Wrecked ship could trigger massive explosion
 
IN THE Thames estuary, 60 kilometers from central London, lies the 60-year-old wreck of the American liberty ship Richard Montgomery. It still carries 1400 tonnes of TNT, and according to a report commissioned by the UK government, an explosion is "increasingly probable with the passing of time". Which makes it odd that it has taken four years to publish the report, which will appear this week.

New Scientist revealed last year that the then secret report warned of the dangers posed by the wreck (21 August 2004, p 36). The ship is disintegrating and is likely to start collapsing in 10 to 20 years' time. "Experience from other similar wrecks indicates that the explosion of one munition is likely to result in a mass explosion," the report says. It would be the world's biggest non-nuclear explosion apart from volcanoes, and would cause £1 billion of damage and widespread injuries to the public.
It would be the world's biggest non-nuclear explosion apart from volcanoes

Removing the explosives would mean evacuating 40,000 people for six months. The report's favoured solution is to build an 1800-meter earthwork around the wreck to deaden the blast of the explosion.

info taken from new scientist.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4032629.stm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A22716759

http://www.ssrichardmontgomery.com/i...wsci210804.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Richard_Montgomery

http://www.submerged.co.uk/montgomery.php

same thing happened just off of Folkestone... a ship carrying explosives blew up digging a 20ft crater in the sea bed, causing an earthquake of magnitude 5 on the sphincter scale scaring the towns people to death http://www.bmwland.co.uk/talker/imag...s/icon_lol.gif

oh dear..

VonErmad4 12-02-2010 03:53 AM

That's quite a lot of explosives, especially when it breaks it down...

286 × 2,000 lb (910 kg) bombs
4,439 × 1,000 lb (450 kg) bombs of various types
1,925 × 500 lb (230 kg) bombs
2,815 fragmentation bombs and bomb clusters
Smoke bombs, including white phosphorus smoke bombs
Pyrotechnic signals
Booster charges

Probably more risky to touch. Bit of a shitter really.

b91ZmxzX 12-02-2010 04:02 AM

I first heard about this a while ago. It's pretty local to me, but I think I might be far enough away for me not to be affected if it does go off. What's to be done about it, I dunno.

VonErmad4 12-02-2010 04:05 AM

Well volunteered Bungle! I know its a bit chilly, but go have a swim out a give it a poke with with a stick.

Bgfbukpf 12-02-2010 04:10 AM

When it said Thames Estuary I thought it meant slap bang in the middle of London for some reason.

Maybe it would be cheaper to evacuate everyone from the area for a day, set the thing off and just pay compensation to the damage caused rather than evacuating and rehousing everyone for six months with the risk of it going off anyway http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/laugh1.gif


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