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arriftell 06-12-2009 06:10 AM

David Haye vs Nikolay Valuev (David vs Golliath)
 
Anyone watching this? The guy David Haye is fighting is HUGE! It reminds me of Apollo Creed Vs Ivan Drago http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/laugh1.gif

So, I know a lot about Haye ( great showman, great punch with crap defence and a suspect jaw ) Also Haye is very much a blown up Cruiserweight, the Russian weighs something like 7 stones more! I get the feeling Haye is gonna get knocked out, does he have a chance?

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...e_1518459c.jpg

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/293...i-Valuev70.jpg

avdddcxnelkaxz 06-12-2009 06:17 AM

I have a feeling that Haye will win. Apparently he has been training against people with built up boots to simulate 7ft.
If it's worked it could make for a very interesting fight!

Looking forward to it for sure [thumbup]

QHdy5Z3A 06-12-2009 06:17 AM

Valuev is not a great boxer, IMO. He just looks scary but he's technically mediocre at best. Will probably be more interesting than the fight between Klitschko and Haye would have been had it taken place.

phsyalcvqh 06-12-2009 06:19 AM

Ive got a funny feeling he'll be in a bond film some time in the future

arriftell 06-12-2009 06:19 AM

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Valuev is not a great boxer, IMO. He just looks scary but he's technically mediocre at best. Will probably be more interesting than the fight between Klitschko and Haye would have been had it taken place.
Why would it be more interesting? Would Haye have beaten Klitschko?

QHdy5Z3A 06-12-2009 06:53 AM

Na, I think Klitschko would have played a very defensive tactic and just used his jab to win rounds. Klitschko's jaw is also suspect, but his technical skills and mental conditioning are superior.

medio 07-11-2009 07:22 AM

Neither Klitschko is any good. Haye would have had a good chance against either. Which is why they avoided him like the plague and the one that agreed to fight was quick to use Haye's injury and the need to postpone the fight as a reason to call it off.

Haye is a bit chinny but both the klitschko's are too and i think his speed would have made for an interesting fight.

I've not see Valuev fight but he went to points against Hollyfield (in his day a great warrior not trying to detract from that) who is so over the hill its untrue. So i doubt he is any good to be honest.

I'll watch it just for the crack.

Rwujnezq 07-11-2009 07:31 AM

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...does he have a chance?
No....http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/wink1.gif

He's just too small I think comparatively, it's not just the height of Valuev, but it's his frickin weight, reach and a head made out of solid bone. Valuev is a pretty mediocre boxer, but his sheer mass is definitely his advantage (imagine having him leaning on you during a fight, even that would tire most people out).

Also Valuev weighed in quite trim (for him) at 22st 8lb, the last thing you'd ideally want to fight is a 7ft guy with a spring in his step.

Good luck to Haye though...[thumbup]

QQ9ktYrV 07-11-2009 07:44 AM

What time is the fight on?

cl004 07-11-2009 07:47 AM

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since when can Sasquatch box??
Did you ever see Chewbacca hit a Stormtrooper...? [rofl]

TeemFilla 07-11-2009 08:04 AM

How come Valuev isn't a super heavyweight? How the hell can there be a 7 stone difference in the same friggin weight division? Has all decency gone out of boxing?

juyrett 07-11-2009 12:11 PM

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How come Valuev isn't a super heavyweight? How the hell can there be a 7 stone difference in the same friggin weight division? Has all decency gone out of boxing?
This is what i was wondering. It seems more like a tacky wrestling match than boxing. That tall bloke looks a bit out of shape compared to Haye though.

XqrkN4a0 07-11-2009 09:43 PM

they reakon be coming into the ring between 10 and 10:30 :)

as long as haye can move and stay away from valuev he will be ok. which shouldnt be to hard.
valuev has a history of holding as he knows this tires the opponent massively.
id say haye in the 10th

arriftell 08-11-2009 07:02 AM

Yeah! Well done David Haye! At last there is someone with the charisma to light up the heavyweight division and he is british too!

AnypecekceS 08-11-2009 07:16 AM

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Yeah! Well done David Haye! At last there is someone with the charisma to light up the heavyweight division and he is british too!
did he win?? nice!

Points i take it?

arriftell 08-11-2009 07:25 AM

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did he win?? nice!

Points i take it?
Yeah points he nearly knocked him out in the last round. He was the first person to ever hurt him as he actually wobbled! Not the most exciting fight as he stayed onthe outside and made Valuev miss all the time. Haye reckoned he broke his hand in he second round and that's why he did not go for knockout earlier. Nobody has given so much weight and height away and won so top marks to him!

Rwujnezq 08-11-2009 08:00 AM

Fair play to him, it wasn't the prettiest fight ever to watch but he nearly had him over in the last round.

The rest of the fight was pretty much Valuev trying to chase Haye around and hit him, like "ima gonna get you Charles... I'm the Juggernaut bitch"

herbalviagra 09-11-2009 09:33 AM

Haye is the man, hitting that guy is suicide, he's like a moving tank!

Wezfyowk 09-11-2009 06:23 PM

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I have a feeling that Haye will win. Apparently he has been training against people with built up boots to simulate 7ft.
If it's worked it could make for a very interesting fight!

Looking forward to it for sure [thumbup]
My mate trained with him hes 6'7 but didnt wear any boots.

xanaxnewtrader 09-11-2009 06:54 PM

Watching the fight I could hear this in my head: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXfY8HIwZjc

That said, looks like I'm not the only one to see the similarity: http://teamfortress.wikia.com/wiki/Heavy_Weapons_Guy

Russian boxer Nikolai Valuev (sometimes typed Valujev) may be the real life person behind the Heavy class. As both of them are Russian, they both are very big and they both look very similar to each other. Not to mention Heavy's unlockable weapon, KGB, or Killing Gloves of Boxing.


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