[wallyfindme]

nacho, as I see it you seem to be fascinated by the idea that we might be unknowingly controlled by something we cannot detect ourselves. This could be destiny, God or whatever. But by the simple definition of that we cannot get to the conclusion that this is happening simply by deducing arguments. There can be no experiment made on the matter.

If destiny/whatever would be controlling everything, would there be real personas? Or would a persona just mean a certain mix of attributes regarded as parts of a persona living out the dedicated life pattern for it?

In total destiny, no independent thought exists or otherwise we would see conflicts between our thoughts and our actions.

[seodiary]

nacho, as I see it you seem to be fascinated by the idea that we might be unknowingly controlled by something we cannot detect ourselves. This could be destiny, God or whatever. But by the simple definition of that we cannot get to the conclusion that this is happening simply by deducing arguments. There can be no experiment made on the matter.

If destiny/whatever would be controlling everything, would there be real personas? Or would a persona just mean a certain mix of attributes regarded as parts of a persona living out the dedicated life pattern for it?

In total destiny, no independent thought exists or otherwise we would see conflicts between our thoughts and our actions.

This is the very thing, there is no way we could prove that without well those powers would, probably, reset our thinking if we would :P

That last statement though, it could be if our thoughts are just deluded as a dream somehow but then again, we can't prove that as well.

[elects]

or does your destiny control you?
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[Suvaxal]

I'm just going with the flow.

[elects]

I'm just going with the flow.

yes but there is more too life than just that.
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[Suvaxal]

yes but there is more too life than just that.

That depends on how you look at it.

[elects]

That depends on how you look at it.

which leads us in a loop to the initial question. 'going with the flow' seems to be a boring answer
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[RastusuadegeFrimoum]

which leads us in a loop to the initial question. 'going with the flow' seems to be a boring answer

Does destiny need a complex answer?

[elects]

Does destiny need a complex answer?

of course it does. destiny = why we are here.
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[UvgpXK0J]

I'd like to say I do, But even though I'm not religious, I sort of think something has a guiding force in my life.

If something wasn't having a part in guiding my destiny, I'd doubt I would have met my Wife, as the chances of meeting her, and getting on so well with her, are probably millions to one.

I do believe in destiny though and karma, although like I said I'm not in anyway religious, so its not like I believe that God or any other deity has a guiding hand in my future.

[elects]

I'd like to say I do, But even though I'm not religious, I sort of think something has a guiding force in my life.

If something wasn't having a part in guiding my destiny, I'd doubt I would have met my Wife, as the chances of meeting her, and getting on so well with her, are probably millions to one.

I do believe in destiny though and karma, although like I said I'm not in anyway religious, so its not like I believe that God or any other deity has a guiding hand in my future.

why not just believe in coincidence then? something didnt have to play a part, it could have been pure chance. and of course no offense to you, but i dont believe anything about 'the one for you' type stuff.
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[ReggieRed]

Yes, though there is no future destiny...just simply actions that you take

[elects]

Yes, though there is no future destiny...just simply actions that you take

but why cant it all be planned out? what if those actions are already decided for you? why cant they be?

good answer actually, but it just brings up tons of more questions.

[horaAppagob]

or does your destiny control you?

The Lord controls mine as he is the all and nothing.

[elects]

The Lord controls mine as he is the all and nothing.

ok, what makes you think there is a lord that controls you? just a book? (not trying to be demeaning)
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[ReggieRed]

but why cant it all be planned out? what if those actions are already decided for you? why cant they be?

good answer actually, but it just brings up tons of more questions.

They aren't and it isn't. There is no future yet only right now

[UvgpXK0J]

The Lord controls mine as he is the all and nothing.

You sound like "XeoBllaze" .

As for whether there can be "the one", for each person, I totally believe there is, But its just a case of finding your perfect partner.

I believe in coincidence too, but isn't that just another name for destiny?

I think some people can go their whole lives without finding "the one", where as others can find them almost without looking.

I had about 4 proper girlfriends between the ages of 14 and 32, and then met my future wife, when I was 32, and I do believe that we'll be together for life.

Like a couple of Penguins!!

[wallyfindme]

Ha! As if I could control my destiny when I have so little power over circumstances I'm in every day. I mean, even to lower the bar a bit and talk about controlling my life would get a negative answer.

I mean I could be dead before dusk today just because I'd trip myself while going down the stairs and break my neck. Obviously I still have some control over my life but to consider that I'd be totally in control of it or my destiny, no chance!

[elects]

Ha! As if I could control my destiny when I have so little power over circumstances I'm in every day. I mean, even to lower the bar a bit and talk about controlling my life would get a negative answer.

I mean I could be dead before dusk today just because I'd trip myself while going down the stairs and break my neck. Obviously I still have some control over my life but to consider that I'd be totally in control of it or my destiny, no chance!

but the question really is, did you decide to go down the stairs yourself or did something control you too. you were going to die either way but what made you do it.
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[KLhdfskja]

I'm going to answer a slightly different question to what you've asked nacho. Destiny, to me, means pre-determinism. Pre-determinism posits that the result cannot be changed. If there is "destiny", by its very nature it is not possible to control it. It is predetermined. Though I suppose that does answer your original question, if there is such a concept as destiny, then by its very definition it does control you.

What I suspect you may be trying to consider here is free will. Does destiny exist? Of that I'm not so sure. Though to address the commonly considered aspect of destiny, if there is such a thing, I have no reason to believe, and very little reason to suspect that it is under the influence of an external consciousness, aka a deity.

What I do have consideration for though, is that consciousness may not be what we suspect it is. Consciousness to me, does not necessarily assert free will. If the brain is a complex system of chemicals and electrical signals that responds to external stimulus, then where does our "will" enter into it? Why is there any more concept of conscious decision within it than there is in any chemical reaction? In that case, it follows that our reactions could be seen as predetermined. Predetermined by the construction of our own brain and its conditioning from the life-long stimulus it has received. Perhaps we have no more "choice" in what we do, than the sun has choice in continuing to burn?

Unsurprisingly, pondering on the above always makes me want to do something that I feel I am doing by my own choice.