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Old 10-22-2009, 12:34 AM   #1
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http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21356335/detail.html

Now that just takes the cake. These people have a hell of a time finding a place to live, they're all forced into one area, and now people plan to build a daycare near them solely for the reason that they'd then be forced to pack up and move out of their homes.

Anyone else think this has just gone too far? When those people end up homeless and angry they'll be far more of a danger. People are far more willing to do wrong when they have nothing to lose. Someone who was trying to lead a normal life could easily be pushed back into violent sex crimes if for no reason other than to get a roof over their head in the form of a prison cell.

“We’ve been out here for eight nights, slept out here, watching these sex offenders,” Farris said. “We watch them do crack, pick up prostitutes.” So do some of the most respected (and/or important) people in our society: Hollywood stars and Politicans.

What happened to doing your time and then being released back into the world to straighten your life out?

Still, Farris said she hopes to her proposal will be approved and enacted quickly.

“Once we get our license approved, they have 24 hours to relocate,” Farris said.

Farris said she has a list of other monitored communities where they could relocate, but all are out of the county. Do you know how much sympathy I'll have for her if she gets raped as a result of this? None, that's how much.
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:05 AM   #2
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I´m a bit torn between to sides,
The first being the good, logical me, the one that says, hey these guys did their time, they´ve been put under enough pressure by society, they know they´ve made a mistake and they´ve paid for it,
and then the irrational me, the one saying those bastards should have been put down like stray dogs the moment they couldn´t keep their **** together and put their hands on someone else.
Honestly im happy we don´t have a system like in the states where people know who did what and why,..
I think i wouldn´t make it easy for some people.
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:27 AM   #3
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Also in two minds - some of the offenders will be serial offenders with no desire to change, some will have made a stupid mistake and never be a problem again and others may just have picked a girl up in a bar or club that turned out to be under age - in the latter case, IMO, it should be the girl charged.

I can see why parents and women would be concerned, but isn't it better to know who the problems are? BTW, I've noticed that it's often the most unattractive 'women' that make the most noise about this sort of thing.

This action they're taking, though, smacks of entrapment - in that the 'victims' are setting up the circumstances to 'trap' the 'offenders' into breaking the law.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:48 PM   #4
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The sex offender laws are F'd up in the US.

18 yr old has consensual sex with his 17 yr old girlfriend (depending on the state) and he is a sex offender.

Get caught pissing on the street somewhere, have fun introducing yourself to all your neighbors.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:58 PM   #5
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The sex offender laws are F'd up in the US.

18 yr old has consensual sex with his 17 yr old girlfriend (depending on the state) and he is a sex offender.

Get caught pissing on the street somewhere, have fun introducing yourself to all your neighbors.
Yep!
Did you know if you give someone a wet willy that's also considered CSC?
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:59 PM   #6
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The sex offender laws are F'd up in the US.

18 yr old has consensual sex with his 17 yr old girlfriend (depending on the state) and he is a sex offender.

Get caught pissing on the street somewhere, have fun introducing yourself to all your neighbors.
This exactly. The laws are way to much of a blanket. That 18 yr old kid should in no way be put in the same class as the sick f**k that does unspeakable things to 6 yr old children. But they do put them in the same class. And the people in those communities that hunt down sex offenders like vigilantes are no bloody better. Those people don't know anything about the "offenders".

Sure, I don't want to live near a person that was convicted actual child molestation on multiple occasions, but that 18 yr old kid that is now in his 30's and married to that 17 yr old girl that is also now in her 30's are just trying to have a normal life together, but because he is forever labeled a sex offender, he has trouble getting jobs, going out, whatever. And there are a lot more people like that kid, than there are the true sick, need to be imprisoned type of offenders.

Just steams my shorts when holier-than-thou "citizens" take the laws and do whatever the he11 they want to with them.
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:01 PM   #7
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give someone a wet willy
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:29 PM   #8
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Yep!
Did you know if you give someone a wet willy that's also considered CSC?
It damn should be, spitting on your d*ck and then ramming it in someone´s ear is seriously f*cked up man !!! lol i know i know, imj/k
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:13 PM   #9
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It damn should be, spitting on your d*ck and then ramming it in someone´s ear is seriously f*cked up man !!! lol i know i know, imj/k
OMG. That was awesome. I rofl'd. I totally got a mental image of that. *sigh*. I'm gonna have to do that to my wife.
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:28 PM   #10
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Meh, i have no sympathy for the "real" sex offenders (i agree with the above at the sillyness of the blanket and examples). They may have done their time, but in so many cases they really aren't any better or safer (which is the reason for the sex offender notification laws in the first place). Frankly, I think they (again, the real offender sickos) should just be locked away for good, but I know that is not a popular idea... [rolleyes]
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:39 AM   #11
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Meh, i have no sympathy for the "real" sex offenders (i agree with the above at the sillyness of the blanket and examples). They may have done their time, but in so many cases they really aren't any better or safer (which is the reason for the sex offender notification laws in the first place). Frankly, I think they (again, the real offender sickos) should just be locked away for good, but I know that is not a popular idea... [rolleyes]
It's not just sex offenders who re-offend. Thieves, violent offenders, druggies, a LOT of people have the odds stacked against them. Why don't we lock them up forever?

Why do we let murderers go? Why aren't they on a list? People can lead a happy and successful life after having been raped... what about the dead guy, his family, his friends? Murder is the worst crime you can ever commit, because it's the only crime you can't recover from... yet they're ranked under rapists?
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:16 AM   #12
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Why do we let murderers go? Why aren't they on a list? People can lead a happy and successful life after having been raped... what about the dead guy, his family, his friends? Murder is the worst crime you can ever commit, because it's the only crime you can't recover from... yet they're ranked under rapists?
Good question. Why cant we kill all murderers?

Anyway, I have no sympathy for rapists or sex offenders, especially when its about little kids. I dont think their names should be made public, but they shouldnt be let out of prison ever again.
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:43 AM   #13
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It's not just sex offenders who re-offend. Thieves, violent offenders, druggies, a LOT of people have the odds stacked against them. Why don't we lock them up forever?

Why do we let murderers go? Why aren't they on a list? People can lead a happy and successful life after having been raped... what about the dead guy, his family, his friends? Murder is the worst crime you can ever commit, because it's the only crime you can't recover from... yet they're ranked under rapists?
Don't get me started.. frankly, we should be locking them up more! And frankly, i have no clue why we don't permanently lock up murderers and such scum (or better yet, just get rid of them). They add nothing of value to society, and have already done a great deal of damage (and no, most rape victims do not live totally happy normal lives).

Frankly, the US is far to nice to scum (hell, minimal security people live better than alot of normal people on the streets). It really does sicken me when rapists and murders get pathetic sentences, and when DWI people get off only to do it again. But that is aside from the topic..

Rapists and sexual offenders made the choice to destroy someone's life, so it is only fair to make theirs a living hell.
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:23 AM   #14
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Rapists and sexual offenders made the choice to destroy someone's life, so it is only fair to make theirs a living hell.
A. No it's not, unless you're happy being like them. If someone is a danger to you, you can kill them, isolate them, or escape them... but you cannot persecute them.
B. How do you know whether the person you're persecuting actually committed the crime? How many innocent people is it okay to destroy, in order to satisfy your sadistic urges? And how is that different from the people you claim to hate so much.
C. In the U.S., you can get a "sex offender" status for almost anything. You don't need to rape or otherwise sexually assault someone. Due to various statues, taking a piss in public can be counted as "indecent exposure" for instance, and get you the "offender" status. Hell, a significant number of young high school and junior high school students now have "offender" status for sending each other naked pictures of themselves, since they got arrested for "child pornography". So a guy that got piss drunk, and a guy that got a naked pic of his (then) 15-year old girlfriend are the people you want to persecute? Really?

Look... as a country we've got to stop trying to "do something" because it's not good for our mental health. Either we believe that prisons are a corrective punishment or we do not. If we don't think that a person that was convicted of crime X can safely re-enter the society, without committing the crime again, then we have to keep him locked up. If we do not, then it's our responsibility to leave him (or her) alone after they've served their time.

I am quite pissed off at the state of our affairs, when we virtually guarantee that anyone released from prison can't get educated and get a decent job ever again. What's the point then? If we're not going to give them an opportunity to be normal, we can't bitch about repeat offenders.

And yes, I am quite aware that there are MANY true repeat offenders, especially within the category of violent crime... and even more within the sub-division of sex crime. And that is terrifying.

That being said, this is still wrong. It's cruel, unusual, and diminishes the dignity of our own society. Coupled with the fact that we now cast these prejudices against an increasingly large and non-violent group of people, perhaps we should rethink our approach... if not to their punishment, then at least to their classification.
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:13 AM   #15
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How do you know whether the person you're persecuting actually committed the crime? How many innocent people is it okay to destroy, in order to satisfy your sadistic urges? And how is that different from the people you claim to hate so much.
This is one of my biggest complaints about the system. We're destroying people's lives, even going so far as to kill them, and finding out later... we done ****ed up and got the wrong guy.

Project innocence sheds quite a bit of light on this subject. But hey, it's cool, let's keep ruining the lives of potentially innocent people, and people trying to reform, because vengeance gives sadistic vigilantes something to jack off to at night before they go to bed.

Edit: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...est=latestnews

Apparently it's a crime to be naked in your own home in case someone looks through one of your windows and sees you. First off it's a naked human being.. it's nothing to freak out about. Jesus. And second... he was in his own damned home. How about you stop looking in through the windows?
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:58 AM   #16
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I'm gonna have to do that to my wife.
and you actually gonna act it out. [rofl]
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:33 AM   #17
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This is one of my biggest complaints about the system. We're destroying people's lives, even going so far as to kill them, and finding out later... we done ****ed up and got the wrong guy.

Project innocence sheds quite a bit of light on this subject. But hey, it's cool, let's keep ruining the lives of potentially innocent people, and people trying to reform, because vengeance gives sadistic vigilantes something to jack off to at night before they go to bed.

Edit: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...est=latestnews

Apparently it's a crime to be naked in your own home in case someone looks through one of your windows and sees you. First off it's a naked human being.. it's nothing to freak out about. Jesus. And second... he was in his own damned home. How about you stop looking in through the windows?
It's not illegal to be naked in your own home unless you make it so your reasonable expection of privacy is hindered. Such as a open curtain or non privacy fenced in back yard.

For instance, say the neighbor across the street walks out of his front door and you and your wife are making whoopy in your living room. Which is fine but in this case your on a bed that sits just above the window in the living room and the shades are open. It's not really his fault nor can he control that he looked forward while walking down his sidewalk and seen you "doin it".
I agree though, if you do everything normal to prevent others seeing you in your own home then there shouldnt be anything stopping you from running away butt nekkid in your own home.
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:35 AM   #18
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and you actually gonna act it out. [rofl]
That just reminds me of the ear-sex episode of Family Guy.

"Once you go black, you go deaf."
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:08 PM   #19
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The sex offender laws are F'd up in the US.

18 yr old has consensual sex with his 17 yr old girlfriend (depending on the state) and he is a sex offender.
I think here in colorado we have a 4yrs over age maximum, so if a 16 yr old has sex with a 20 yr old the law cant really step in unless the parent pursue charges. Thats what Ive heard anyways.
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